120Hz 3D Screen upgrade for Alienware 17 R1

Yes this will happen as NVIDIA GPU is running all the time.. with optimus, when intel iGPU was running only CPU fan would work as the iGPU is on the CPU .. Now GPU fan has to work so fan noise will be more..

 

Ok thank you


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at this point I know that the fan runs when comes down to 45 degrees, I'll find a way to bring it to the downclock and 40 degrees centigrade type some program like EVGA X PRECISION


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You need to use Hwinfo64 to do this..

 

I'll try it tonight and then tell you how it went


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My fans kick in for seemingly no reason sometimes but I have just chalked it up to poor fan tables. I just repasted with IC Diamond so hopefully that helps somewhat as well. The fans do seem to kick up for some rather meaningless taks now though like installing a program lol.....

The sad part is my R4 almost never kicked the fans in unless I was really pushing it, that was a beautiful system noise wise.

 

I also get those random fan spin-ups for no apparent reason. Only from the CPU though.

 

http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/LTN173HT02-P01/

Which one do you recommend? Glossy or matte finish?

 

I have the glossy and I prefer that but plenty of people probably prefer the matte as well. The glossy gives you the benefit of nicer richer colours IMO and unless you are going to use your laptop out in the sun the reflections don't bother me.

 

Vote 2 for glossy, same reasons .

 

Thanks for your quick response! Going to place order for glossy one. Just awaiting a response from laptopscreens.com

 

@MogRules @IanC , @ MickyD1234

Laptopscreen has both D02 & P01.

Guys, which one to order?

They are waiting for my confirmation. Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Glossy vs matte is really a matter of personal preference, and you should never ask others what you should buy. You need to decide what you prefer.

You either prefer glossy or you prefer matte, both have pros and cons.

 

@MogRules , @IanC , @MickyD1234

LTN173HT02-D02 or LTN173HT02-P01

Need your input please...

 

I have no idea of the differences, apart from the price. Did you ask them?

 

Price is same as given link.

 

Ahh, I was looking at glossy and matte, doh!

 

Hi,

I got the P01 in mine, i got it from laptopscreens.co.uk.

works great, make sure you are on the latest bios version, before i updated mine the screen was black. I put my 60hz screen back in and updated the bios, reinstalled the 120hz screen and its worked great since.

sorry about the late reply, im out and about at the moment...

Thanks

Ian

 

and glossy all the way for me, makes the colours pop that little be more imho

 

Thanks for your input @IanC

Laptopscreen siad DO2 & PO1 is same and interchangeable .

BTW, I'm having some issue with laptopscreen.com as they don't accept PayPal & master card payment from my country. They ask me to pay via webmoney or banktransfer which is a lot of hassle.

Can you guys take a look at this link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Screen-L...A-/281198679187?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Seller posted multiple images of the product. Is it same display you got from laptopscreen?

Looking forward to your input @MogRules

 

The part number matches , the only problem these days is there are so many revisions and certain revisions don't always work so that would be my main concern. The seller does allow returns but you would have to pay the shipping. I would message the seller and find out what the revision is first just to double check that.

 

From personal experience, this is by no means definite...

Both Do2 and Po1 panels worked fine on my aw 17 r5.. Co1 did not work. Basically the Co1 variant would get to the boot up screen and then go black...

Thanks

Ian

 

@MogRules & @IanC ,

I sent message to ebay seller. He replied following:

Hi, The brand is Samsung. We have the exect model LTN173HT02-D02 in our stock. Please rest assured to buy this. Thanks.

What do you think?

 

Hi,

I don't think anyone on here will be able to give you a solid guarantee it will be fine, but just going off the model no it should be ok..

good luck keep us all updated, i will help all i can once it arrives if needed...

One thing to make sure is check the returns policy and distance you may need to return it just in case!!

Thanks

Ian

 

@IanC , @MogRules ,

At last, I was successful to make payment to laptopscreen. They sent me LTN173HT02 P01

Let's see how it goes...

 

For everyone to know......LTN173HT02 C01 does not work with the Alienware 17. It is one of the oldest Revisions and the sytem Bios have never supported it. Fortunately, a lot of places like Laptopscreen.com are no longer carrying them. Everything newer LTN173HT02 D01 to T01 should be fine.

 

Hi,

i had already confirmed LTN173HT02 C01 does not work, check page 4 of this thread... that one of the screens i received from laptopscreens.com and returned.

Thanks

Ian

 

I will make a note of this in the starting post if there isn't already one

Thanks guys

 

How do you gte the 980M to work with the 120hz screen. I hear there are people out there can that have done it, anyone know ?

 

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The 970m is the same architecture and I'm running on it with 120hz with no problems. It will require running Windows 8 full dedicated mode at all times.

As far as I know both 970m/980m can only run windows 7 in optimus mode. So no windows 7 and no optimus if you want a 120hz screen.

 

brman2000005, how did you install windows 8.1 on UEFI mode? does it have to be win8.1 not win8? can you please post the instructions of how to accomplish what you did?

 

970M/980M work but you cannot flash unlocked vBIOS if your machine has 120Hz pannel as iGPU is disabled... If you try disabling the 970M/980M driver before flashing vBIOS in Windows (which is the only way you can do this), it crashes the entire machine..

 

Is flashing required to make it work properly? I have not been following this at all TBH as I can't afford the upgrade atm but am still curious. You can't use the dos version of nvflash for the 900m series anymore?

Is there a performance issue with the new 900m's if you don't flash?

 

No but overclocke wise, with stock vBIOS your limited to +135/300... I personally have used unlocked vBIOS from day one.. If you still have your 60Hz pannel, I would install that when your installing the 970M, flash vBIOS, remove pannel, reinstall 120Hz pannel..

 

Like Tom said above, flashing is not required but it is best to do it now if you like overclocking pass the factory restricted point and maybe for better and stable performance. Otherwise, it is not easy to flash after the 120hz screen is installed.

Performance wise, everything for me has been running like a dream w/unlocked vbios with no throttle issues like some others are reporting. With a nice overclock, my 970m can get near 13,000 points in 3dmark11 graphics score.

 

Hi!

I have received both cable & screen.
Before going to action, I want to ensure about the cable.

What is the purpose & where to connect all those 5 connectors? @MogRules , @IanC

Thanks again for your great support!

 

With the exception of number 2 they are all going to go exactly where they all come off. Number 2 is the one you really have to be careful with as there are two ports on the board. Where that comes off isn't where your going to connect it too again. Read the instructions at the start of the post well and understand them as it is all explained in there. Pay special attention to the part where it explains the video port and which one to use as you can brick your machine if you use the wrong one. Make sure your using the EDP port which isn't the port your plugged into now.

 

I understand the concern of number 2 but What is the purpose of number 3? I don't find that port in my old cable after opening my laptop

 

I would have to open mine up again to be sure....give me a few hours and I will see if I can get time to get it apart and get some pics

 

Okay, I attached number 3 with a side port just like the images in the gallery ( a link is available in the 1st post). . I also have a spare connector beside webcam which is most probably for emitter!

Edit: Turned on my laptop. Seems everything just working correctly

 

Just a guess here but I would think that's the MB end of the 3D emitter - since you don't currently have it and looking at the position?

 

Color looks like washed out! Can you please share your color profile?

EDIT: Cool display Feeling Premium! Hoping Windows 10 will solve scaling issues with extended monitors

Many thanks to @MogRules for making this journey a real easy!!

 

I have never touched my colour profiles so I cant help you there, I find my colour is way better then the stock 1080p display that came with the laptop originally. Glad you got it all working though

The spare connector beside the webcam is indeed for the emitter

 

Color looks better to me after applying alien17.icm . Did you try that profile I attached earlier?

 

What external monitors are those?

 

Now that Full UEFI compatiable NVFlash is out, I'll soon join the 120Hz league in 2-3 months...

 

So guys, I just got my 980M upgrade for my M17x R4, and since I'm used to 85Hz+ monitors for a while now and I play FPS games very often, I was thinking about upgrading the stock 1080p 60Hz panel to the LTN173HT02-T02. I don't care about 3D Vision, the only thing I'm interested in, is the 120Hz refresh rate.

The thing is I'm still using Windows 7, and I'd rather not switch to Windows 8.1. But, as far as I understood, either you run the 980M in Optimus mode, and the panel runs on the Intel IGP, either you completely bypass the IPG and the panel runs on the GTX directly.

So, apparently you guys say that the IGP can't handle more than 60Hz, is that right? I mean, I'm actually using an external 144Hz monitor on Mini DisplayPort and it runs at 120Hz even with Optimus. Is the integrated panel only limited to 60Hz on Optimus, or it just won't power on, or something?

At first I didn't know a LVDS 120Hz panel existed, and I know that the IGP can't output anything on the eDP port. But this is an LVDS panel, so I think it will be useable on Windows 7 in Optimus. Can you guys please juste confirm if that's true, and if it's indeed limited to 60Hz that way? So it means that (waiting for a new Eurocom P7 Pro ) I'll have to switch to Windows 8.1 to use a 120Hz panel on this M17x R4? Thank you!

 

Hi, I think you may have to go to win 8 for this . The reason I never went for the 980m and just bought a new machine!

Hopefully I can explain what is going on. The IGP is used during the POST to test the display. It outputs at 60hz when driverless (in bios tests) so if it is connected to s 120hz panel it fails POST and will not boot (8 beeps I believe). Because of this the 120hz panel uses a different MB socket that bypasses the iGPU and forces the POST to use the dGPU (which can output 120hz driverless).

The problem you have is that the 980m requires the iGPU to be there for it to boot. Disable it with an unlocked BIOS and the machine fails to boot. Win 8 with UEFI boot can start the machine with a dedicated 120hz display and no iGPU - this is only from what I have read. You might be able to get it to boot with UEFI and win 7 as it is supposed to be backward compatible even though win 7 is not UEFI aware? A dice roll that stopped me from going for the 980m in my R4/120hz machine....

Hopefully you get confirmation from someone that has tried it.

Good luck, it's an upgrade that is well worth the effort!

 

Oh, I see... Well, I'm still using the 980M on Windows 7 along with the IGP on Optimus mode. It works well, but like you said, I don't have any of the advantages of a dedicated GPU.
So that's why I did the upgrade for the moment, but I plan on buying a Eurocom P7 Pro in the next few months, with no GPU, and swap my 980M in the P7 Pro.
For the moment, when I'm home, I use the laptop as a desktop replacement, hooked up to my monitor/keyboard/mouse, and that way I can unleach the full potential of the GTX.

But about what you said about the POST, what I understood so far was that the IGP can't handle a eDP panel, but the panel I was speaking about is still using the LVDS connector, even if it's a 120Hz model. I think this on is the only LVDS 120Hz panel, btw.
I don't know, since I don't have one, but I think maybe the BIOS can still use it like any 60Hz display at the boot time. The question is, when on the desktop, with all the drivers installed, will it still be limited to 60Hz with the IGP enabled?
This would mean that its not an upgrade at all, if I stay on Windows 7, it will work, but be limited to 60Hz. If I switch to Windows 8, but I'm not going to..., then I'd be able to use it at it's full potential.

Maybe I'm completely wrong with all that, but it anyone knows, or have tested this already, please let me know!