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    120Hz 3D Screen upgrade for Alienware 17 R1

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by MogRules, Aug 3, 2014.

  1. cdoublejj

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    Alienware went Private!? Its usually when they go IPO that things get crappier. Either way they are answering to share holders.
     
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    Hey guys, welcome to 2017.

    I just finished upgrading my screen. However, my GPU is not being recognized.

    Any tips to getting it working? Already flashed the bios and attempted to run NVIDIA installer. No GPU found.



    EDIT: Apologies everyone. After running windows update, and manually installing the graphics driver, everything came together.

    FOR OP: Along with the D01 model, the X01 model WORKS AS WELL. Cheers lad :)
     
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    If you're in the U.S. and still looking for the eDP cable I Picked up a video cable (n392w) just now through dell chat...Its still $9.99 plus tax fellas. Was offered free Shipping so jumped on that obviously...Now of to buy the screen. Unfortunately its out of stock on laptopScreens...Any ideas where to buy it from and what to look for? Is Ebay my only viable Option?
     
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    @Faadi786 , yep I guess that's the only viable option we have, the 120Hz panel from dell will cost 200+ USD.
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Just want to say, the 120hz screens are SOOO worth it, so nice. Also - you can then upgrade to like Pascal 1060 or even mod in a 1070, but 1060 is crazy powerful and stays VERY cool. However the 120hz screens just look soooo nice. I had one for just a day, and I miss it already.
     
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    This is the reason my exhange is on hold. I can't get a 120hz screen right now and I won't take a 60hz model instead. I would rather wait two months for a new machine with the 120hz model then go without it.

    120 makes a world of difference folks. It is also a glossy screen if your into that , which I am :p
     
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    Faadi786 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I bought a screen from ebay revision d01 and a new cable from dell parts...installed the edp cable power and the little connection that comes with it...installed the webcam on top and skipped the ir emitter connection because I dont really care for 3d oh and not to forget I also connected the 40 pin connector in back of the lcd screen...Put the laptop together and nothing...8 Beeps...wth. Rechecked everything to see if I had plugged everything in correctly which I did. So I need your help guys.

    Since I didnt want to not have my laptop up and running I reinstalled the old 900p 60hz monitor for now...Oh and other thing when I used to go into device manager Id see 2 display device adapters one the 980m and one intel graphics. I suppose optimus was enabled...after reinstalling the older screen I no longer see intel graphics and just the 980m now...Did I lose optimus for good? or is it some bios glitch going on? some help would be appreciated.
     
  8. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    I installed the 120hz panel and am@now getting a boot loop.

    The first boot resulted in a BSOD of a memory allocation sort, then I would get the 8 beeps. I took apart the whole laptop so I could mod the frame for easy access to the CMOS battery, as I am not about to take apart the whole thing every time I need the CMOS battery lol.

    Anyways after cycling the machine, getting to 5 beeps, restart holding Fn key and finally I get a BIOS splash screen. When I boot I get up to the Windows icon, loads a bit, and restarts. I am now in a bootloop, currently restoring PC to see if there is any change.

    I forgot that VGA setting was set to PEG, maybe I need to change that to auto in the BIOS?

    Ive been up about 15 hours working on this laptop and am a little tired :) While its working I am hoping to get some direction. As of right now, I get BIOS and right up to booting into my profile in Windows 10.

    @Ashtrix @Papusan @MogRules

    Thanks guys!

    EDIT:

    Looks like I jumped the gun, restore seemed to resolve my issue for now.

    I was able to get past the 8 beeps with removing the CMOS battery and set VGA to AUTO and eDP
     
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    That's great to hear @TheReciever :vbthumbsup: considering the upgrade ! I'm waiting for some funds and a worthy GPU upgrade to pull off the same upgrade for my Ranger too. 120Hz on this machine will be perfect.

    Next VGA setting is only in the Unlocked BIOS. I don't see any type of that setting here, Also IIRC the 120Hz panel needs to be installed when running PEG / dGPU mode (Only OS level MUX switch on Stock sBIOS fn+f5), else it'll fail as we know + for the post Maxwell users they need to run FULL UEFI at all costs.

    The M17x R4 too has the VGA setting option through Unlocked BIOS as well for SG/iGFX and PEG/dGPU iirc but this Auto + eDP option is different idk why it changed since both of these machines and the Avenger MK II also use the InsydeH2O BIOS only..

    Could you please post a screen of the VGA setting so that before (where error happens can be guessed by the user) and after (as you mentioned alr) + total steps (I assume the one you said in the last is the one) you did to break the error code for this Unlocked sBIOS, I'll update the sBIOS thread post as a warning/update for the 120Hz upgrades on an Unlocked sBIOS environment. Thanks

    Also for the NVRAM reset I guess you can also remove the CPU (Long back I read this vague memory lol so don't quote me on this :p) or the usual Power Cycle with RAM removal method. CMOS doesn't reset NVRAM, Again this is different because this is an LCD reason brick case transitioned to a CMOS error code.

    Edit : Oh, was your Win10 Installation in Full UEFI ? I can see you are running the 780M here, so that's another point to keep in mind. When coming to the CSM/Legacy or UEFI option was set to. Since it's most important thing when going past Kepler. So that Boot option might have also an impact of showing the VGA options. Dunno much since the 980M needs GOP driver which this BIOS lacks thus needing a full UEFI installation Win8.1/Win10 & 7 doesn't have Full UEFI.
     
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  10. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    I should also clear up some details, I am completely out of it right now and really shouldnt be tearing down my laptop lol

    I realized that the stock setting in the BIOS for SATA operation is RAID and not AHCI. Its why I was stuck in the boot loop after resolving the lack of POST. I assumed this was all related to the upgrade issue but it was a detail I had forgotten (stock RAID vs AHCI). The reason for this was because I have loaded defaults before on this machine and didnt have any issues. In my half asleep state these details confounded me. So if you reset CMOS then be sure to enable your desired SATA operation, if its AHCI then it will no longer be enabled.

    The 8 beep error code seems to be heavily tied to LCD issue, some claim faulty motherboard or GPU (since eDP > GPU) but I just made the switch so its only logical it was an issue with the panel. When I first boot, I got some kind of BSOD that was related to Video memory but it restart so fast that its more an inference than a recollection if that makes sense.

    After some googling, a confident member stated that you want to reset to the point where you get the 5 beep error code. This can be done most commonly with CMOS reset, but some claim it needs a combination of that and RAM change, or swapping CPU's to force the BIOS to prompt (due to hardware change). I finally got the 5 beep error code and after some more googling, someone posted the "what to do next" from an M11x manual.

    Basically to remove battery, and cmos. Hold power for 30 seconds. Install CMOS (leave battery out) and start machine while holding Fn, it will reboot, once rebooted to let go of Fn key. This is where I was when I made the post about my boot loop issue.

    To be completely honest I think me setting VGA to auto and eDP had probably nothing to do with my solution lol

    Right now my screen is black, its not liking my USB 3.0 HP monitor, Im sure after drivers are installed it will resolve itself (hopefully) lol

    In siege I can probably get 120+ FPS if I drop the settings enough, I get about 100 as it stands with High Textures @ 1080p. My bigger problem is always the overheating VRMs but thats off topic for this thread :)

    Anyways this is my recollection so far, Im sorely tired so Im sure I may have glossed over your question, but hey I tried! :)
     
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  11. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    Hands down the best panel I've ever used, colors are vibrant and 120hz is ideal.

    I wish I could over clock the refresh rate but it seems I have no breathing room there.
     
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    120hz really is a deal breaker in terms of ever going back to 60hz again. After using it you just have to have it from that point forward :)
     
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    The part number on the first link looks correct, N392W, but the second one does not match. It also looks like the whole bezel and everything which you don't need, only the LCD itself. If I remember correctly the m17Xr4 had something glued over the screen , so maybe that is why that is sold as a whole assembly. I would try laptopscreens.com for the right LCD. It would also be cheaper to get the cable through the first link and the screen through laptopscreens.
     
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    Striker1234 Notebook Consultant

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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Thank You!!!
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    thing is, if you buy from someone they should support the sale, so if you have issues just contact them.
    They might ask you if you need a cable, and they might check what videocard etc.. I know I would
     
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    I wish I had seen this thread a month earlier. I ordered the FHD screen from Dell 2 years ago and then lost the nerve to install it until last December. Dell assured me when I bought the display that I only needed to swap the displays and all would be good. No mention of the different cable. Needless to say, I bricked my baby when I put in the new display and the old cable. I called Dell Support and paid $259.00 to fix a 4 year old laptop. I shipped it off and didn't get it back for 50 days! Dell made 6 major frak ups and 5 minor errors on my repair but that's a story for another day. Dell got the motherboard running but didn't notice the old cable connecting to the FHD display and thus, didn't get the display going. They refunded the fee, shipped it back and I put the original display back in and was back in business an hour later.

    My question is: Did I brick the FHD display when I bricked the motherboard? Could I cause harm to the computer if I get the ON392W cable and try this again? Any other way to test the FHD display?
     
  20. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    @t456 can probably give you an answer on this.
     
  21. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Do you have the part nrs. of both screens? That is, not the Dell inventory numbers, but those on the stickers on the back of the display.
     
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    The original screen is the one that is installed and working now. I really don't want to go through the hassle unless you really need it. It is the screen that came with my Alienware 17 (there's no rev #) and is a 1600x900 matte display. The high gloss 17.3" FHD screen that I bought from Dell has the following numbers on the larger label attached to the plastic wrap:
    1240 17.3" FHD
    LTN173HT02 Samsung
    5WCI00605I
    DP/N OGN36T
    CN-OGN36T-21323-2A6-0040-A00

    And on the smaller label stuck to the metal:
    LJ96-05562A
    LTN173HT01-301
    Y12A053TTMP9RA852

    If you really need the numbers on the 1600x900, I'll take it apart tomorrow night.
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Nah, that's not necessary; run MonInfo and copy/paste the ' Raw data' section of the current screen.

    [​IMG]

    Using that we can trace back what is likely the correct screen series, which should be sufficient. Normally a review on Notebookcheck would've been fine, but none reviewed a 900p model.
     
  24. woodzstack

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    both work. Avoid "-C01" ending versions.

    but the two listed D02 and P01 or even T01 should all work in M17X-R4 and AW17 AFAIK. I've personally gone through a few of each and had no issues, except the usual things like eDP cables broken or not perfect etc..
     
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    hello guys, can you tell me something about LTN173HT02 - X01, it works too with ranger?
     
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    The 4K IPS panel has been successfully replaced. The 120Hz 40-pin and 4K 40-pin connector definitions are the same. If the hardware exactly matches, do the BIOS need to be modified?
     
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    Pron1o
    LTN173HT02 - X01 It's not working C01=X01
     
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    today I bought N173HHE-G32 works fine, BIOS native gpu780m, mountings needs some work. this is a tn panel 120hz 5ms, ips+120hz panel doesn't exist.
     
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    Can u talk somethings about the model of this video cable? Can u share purchase sources and pictures?Give me your email address, I want to communicate with you
     
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    Video cable n392w DC02C004000, there is a problem with the installation of N173HHE-G32. electronic Board does not allow to close the decor panel. there is only one way to install the panel. the electronic Board must be recessed under loops. I'm working on it, and I hope I can do it.
     
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    the problem with the installation is the electronic board or on the video cable? I am ready to contact the seller to customize the dedicated video cable of N173HHE-G32. Can you turn on the screen during use?Or boot alert
     
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    LEFT+RIGHT HINGES HAS BEEN MODIFIED
    photo report https://imageshack.com/a/UBel/1
     
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    Congratulations on your success, I will try
    Is brightness adjustment feasible, it need to shield integrated graphics?
     
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    @Werss Is the screendoor effect really that visible in real life or is that an effect of the camera and still having the protecting film on the display?

    Also, on one side you now only have one screw between the hinge and the lid assembly, do you notice any extra woblyness?
     
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    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    I just bought a complete screen/lid of the R5/R1 for $80 on eBay this morning. It didn’t specify If it is 3D or not. All I see in the picture is that it have 5 cable wires and the video cable has two screws on the connector head. Is it a 3D screen?
     
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    The screen ID 653787 comes up as a 14.1 part Toshiba PTMB0C-04J00H.
     
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    Hi there, I have an AW 17 r1 2014 model. The screen on it is FHD 1920x1080, it's anti-glare 300 nits, and 60hz.

    How many Pins this screen should be? I am planning like many to upgrade my r1 laptop to gtx 1070.

    Thank you kindly for your advise.
     
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    Guys i have 3d 120hz screen with 880m, do i need full uefi or change bios settings for it? Right now gives LCD beep error and its white screen with 3 Red lanes, tested on 2 brand new LCD tape
     
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    so i got confused. up until now and after i have read like 20 threads i have read that
    LTN173HT02-P01 works as does LTN173HT02-D02 , they are both 1920x1080 120hz screens
    but also
    B173QTN01.2 and B173QTN01.4 work which is a 2560x1440 resolution 120hz

    so we can choose if we want 1080 or 1440? also are these the compatible screens for Alienware 17x R4 too? will these screens work with 1060-1070 gpus?

    thanks
     
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    Ive tested those panels in the alienware 17r1 and they do not work.
     
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    Hello,

    Is the LTN173HT02-D01 revision compatible with the Alienware 17? I ordered a D02 panel, and they sent me an M17x R4 panel assembly, so I removed the panel assuming that D01 is comparable. Also, I know the eDP cable is a different part number, but are they electrically the same?
     
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    Hi there, does anybody know if LCD panel N173HHE-32G Rev C3 Matte 120hz, is 3D capable?

    Thank you!
     
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    Did it work?

    Sent from my SM-G965N using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes, I was able to get revision D01 working. The issue ended up being the M17X R4 eDP cable. As soon as I used the correct cable, the display came right up.
     
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    which is best option for upgrade our screen to 120hz? only fhd? or is something from qhd?
     
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