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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 R4 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by katalin_2003, Oct 24, 2016.

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    Yeah I'm just looking too much into the word "average" in that instance I guess, 9.74lbs is probably the minimum starting weight, not the average. Or it's possibly both and saying "average" just sounds better instead of "minimum."
     
  2. Mickbt26

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    The R4 is way easier than the R3 is to take apart to repaste.
    At least you don't need to remove almost everything like on the R3
     
  3. Divine_Madcat

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    Huh.. ill have to go back and look, but it seemed to me that the whole mobo has to be yanked (thanks to the connected fans... grumble).. not much more to remove past that personally...
     
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    Oh boy, the alienware 13 just showed up on my countries alienware webpage today, and the link doesn't even work.
    I hope I won't have to wait long for the GTX 1080. Or worse hope it WILL actually show up.
     
  5. improwise

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    Thinking of buying a 17" mostly for use as a workstation but I would also like it to be able to do gaming when I have the time for it. Would it be a bad thing to get a AW 17" with 1080 instead of one with 1070 with regards to fan noise and temperature in low power "office mode"? I realize that the 1080 in full gaming mode will consume much more power and have higher fan noise, but if it is all the same in office mode, I might just as well get the 1080 instead.
     
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    If you have the money buy the 1080, doing normal tasks wont task the cooling system at all and you will get that much more gaming life from your system with the 1080. However if you just cant wait or you think the 1070 will do you fine, save the money and buy a nice monitor or something :)
     
  7. votum

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    They are supposed to be invisible? I can see my tobii sensor lights all the time
     
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  8. mva5580

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    Anyone here have the 17" R4 and the previous Vindicator backpack? I have that one currently and I'm just wondering if the R4 will fit in the previous version. I know they've released a new one so I imagine it will fit better in that, but can it still fit ok in the previous one?
     
  9. Oreok4

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    it will fit in the old 18 inch vindicator, i dont think it will in the 17 version or it will be super tight.
     
  10. Entionz

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    Alrighty, so I picked one of these up at Best Buy to test. Lighting's great. Keyboard's got minimal flex except for the 10 key area, even a moderate amount of pressure there causes flex. Additionally, the AlienFX program works only about 1/3 of the time before crashing and needing a reboot. Typing in this little message space for this post, the typing lags compared to my actual typing speed. Is this the same situation for anyone else? Really wanna like this unit and get the GTX 1080 model. The construction is also amazing. Such a strong hinge. A tank indeed.

    Edit: It just froze and restarted trying to play RuneScape of all things. I'm resetting it now and returning it tomorrow.
     
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  11. Greel

    Greel Notebook Evangelist

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    doesnt the 1080 consumes more power/more heat? might be less battery life.
    the fan noise should be the same tho
    @iunlock
     
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  12. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    If running in eco mode the battery life shouldn't be any different, but yes at wide open throttle it drink up more gas.

    ::iunlock::
     
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    I've been following this thread with interest. I narrowed my choices down to the 17 R4 and the Aorus X7 v6, both with the 1440 screen. I played with the Alienware at Best Buy and loved the feel of it, but just pulled the trigger on an X7 v6 from HIDevolution. I'm having them repaste with CLLU on the CPU and IC Diamond on the GPU. I'll need to see the screen in person, but I think the 1440 screen with the 1070 is a perfect combination. That its thinner and lighter than the Alienware 17 R4 and actually seems to be having fewer thermal issues sold me. The faster unlocked CPU was icing on the cake. If Alienware had the 1440 screen and didn't have thermal issues I'd have likely gotten it, I've had good luck with Alienware in the past. Hopefully they'll get the issues solved and make the 6820 available on all the their 17 inch gaming laptops. Great experience with @Donald@HIDevolution.


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  14. Greel

    Greel Notebook Evangelist

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    ah didnt know the 1080 had the same minimum as the 1070.

    they did have the 6820 with the 1440p monitor before. nobody knows why they removed it as an option recently.
     
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    Negative. They said it would be an option, but it never actually was. I have two of the 1440s sitting in front of me now
     
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    Speaking of. My 1440 replacement is here. Dell told me it shipped today, it actually shipped the 11th. Temps are much worse, hit 92 in one core and maybe a 15c difference. My original only had a difference of maybe 6.

    Screen appears identical. My wife says the new one is a bit brighter. The lines are bothering me far less now, and I can definitely feel the difference between 120 and 60hz. I'm going to tear the new one apart to repaste, if I notice anything up with the heatsinks I'll just swap them out with my old one before sending it back.

    I have a feeling its probably just paste that hasn't settled yet.

    GPU is much cooler on the new one though, 65C is the max at 1500mhz. It must be throttling though or something, going up 450mhz only increased firestrike by something like 200 pts.

    Also, idle temp is far lower, over 10c on the new one.
     
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  17. Kevin

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    Anyone ever gotten someone at Dell to tell them, why they say the HK processor is incompatible with the G-Sync displays?

    I'd just like to know with what nonsensical excuses they come up.
     
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    Since the chips are soldered to the motherboard they probably only ordered one G-SYNC mobo to save costs.
     
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  19. DeeX

    DeeX THz

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    Yes it was..
     
  20. Kevin

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    Jesus Francis Christo, if that's the reason.

    How did they not understand that 1440p + 6820HK + GTX 1070 would've been the most insanely popular combo.

    Oh how things have changed over at the Alienware office.
    Who actually received one?
     
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  21. votum

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    Got a screen of it? I ordered almost immediately when the 1440 came out, and in US at least there was never an option for the 6820. That was only with the 4k panel
     
  22. captn.ko

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    1080 Configuration online in our german configurator :) 2999euro with 6820hk, 256ssd, 120hz

    Its not possible for now to get the 1080 with 4k or 1080p
     
  23. Wiz bit

    Wiz bit Notebook Consultant

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    Well in the Uk the prices have gone up by crazy amounts. No way I'm paying for a 1080. The base model was 1399, now it's gone to 1649 for the same configuration (I.e . Likewise I got the 4K 6820hk 1070 for 1999 (which was the top model) but you can't seem to configure a 1080 with 4K screen, just with the qhd display which has quality issues, so why would you want a 1080 with no 4K panel... Really weird configurations dell!
     
  24. ScaniaV82299

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    Hi I am going to order the GTX 1080 one but I was going to go for the 4k model anyone know if there will be that configuration? And for the gsync option are you able to switch the graphics with the fn f7 option or not?
     
  25. QUICKSORT

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    **** ME.
    First of all WTF? the gtx 1080 is available for pre order in belgium WTH??? First time it's actually early.
    Nevertheless. I Definitely don't want the QHD apnel.
    Everything is great.
    HK CPU,
    Best GPU
    (too bad I cannot get it without SSD, but not a major issue)

    But the QHD panel makes it really a no go for me.
    DAMN IT. I HOPE they will make it with the UHD monitor available. but I have my doubts :(

    Edit: this really discurraged me. Also some people that have problems with heat output (also on the 17 inch) I've seen someone run a tomb raider benchmark on youtube reaching 100°C on the cpu and that caused the pc to shut down.

    Perhaps I should get the alienware 13 with the oled display. As a person who likes small systems, and considdering it's still 14% stronger than my current laptop. It might be an option. Or I might just stick to my alienware 15 r1 with the 980M despite the fact that I don't like a few things about it. :(
     
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  26. nPulse

    nPulse Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, My 17inch 6820hk will be arriving today.. but.. I already planned the return sending friday.. I DO WANT the GTX1080 even with the crappy display..
     
  27. spiralzz

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    Up on the uk site as well £2679 ! With UHD I could understand but the QHD ? Wtf...... it's an awful panel in my opinion and besides the 1070 is best card for that panel.

    Could probably get a graphics amp and desktop 1080 for price difference as well ?

    My 17 has gone back awaiting the 13 oled I have a graphics amp anyway so it will be a better match for me.
     
  28. nPulse

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    Well, for 400 euro more I just got an extra SSD, the 1080 and the gsync panel. I also see a lot of people that like the panel and dont really see the 'lines' I'll just return it when it bothers me.
     
  29. spiralzz

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    Sweet! Hope you like

    It was just an opinion mate, a lot say their fine with the QHD to me it was just washed out and very poor TN colours not so much the lines

    Be interesting to see the thermals on these I bet their QC department are busy right now.....
     
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    is there a picture about this lines issue with the screen ? and for wich model is it ? UHD or QHD ?
     
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    It's QHD, and read this thread there are lots of pictures and links to YouTube
     
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    Hey what does the power supply look like? I was wondering if my work laptop could work with it. I have a Dell Lattitude E7440
     
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    I wonder when this will go live in the US? Probably not until the 10% coupon has expired. LOL
     
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    If that happens Just call them and explain you don't think its fair you missed the deal date because the model you wanted wasn't available they should give you it anyways, worked for me on my 13r3 order.
     
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    Damn, I'm so hesitant, or should I go with the AW 17 GTX 1080 after all despite the QHD screen.

    As a reminder. Is there another issue with the QHD panel apart from the "somewhat visible scanlines" ?
    Also is there a side by side comparison of the AW 17 with the QHD panel and the 4K IPS panel? To be able to see the difference in color reproduction / black levels / contrast
     
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    Ι asked umar to do that but he doesn't care
     
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    The prices in the UK are outrageous now, go back 2 weeks and you could pick up the base model for 1349, now it's 1649 for same spec. Top model 6820hk, 4K, 16gb 1070 was 1999.00, now you can't even buy that configuration with 4K display. I'd wait until prices drop or keep hold of your current laptop and buy off the outlet site in 3 months or so!

    Has anyone noticed the prices raise in their country other then uk over the last 2 weeks??
     
  39. improwise

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    Yes, this was kind of my worries, but is it confirmed that a 1080 does not use more power than a 1070 in "low power mode"?
     
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    In the USA the prices fluctuate, because they keep changing "discounts"
     
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    So prices have gone up and quality gone down? Doesn't seem like a winning combination...
     
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    Prices in uk have gone up by approx 22% across the board in the last 2-3 weeks. I can't believe it's britexit! If I was getting the 1080 I'd want the 4K panel. Qhd panel looks washed out, my friend bought it and has returned it, Alienware tech could not send an engineer to replace because 1) they had no stock, 2) could not guarantee it would resolve the issue with the replacement screen.

    I have the 4K panel a4 and it looks great (good colours, no light bleed, no white lines unlike on the qhd panel)..
     

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    Any pictures or video of the QHD screen's color banding issue?
     
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    4Κ is the only real option for the 17R4, especially for the GTX1080 version
     
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    Really guys?? Can you confirm that? It should be a good reason to me for not buying it.
     
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    I mean I have two of them sitting in front of me, and those little IR lights are definitely visible.


    On a side note, I am reinstalling fresh windows on the new one, what drivers are necessary from the support page?
     
  47. improwise

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    Does this mean that the 4K on the 17" is much better than the one on the 15" which I am not to impressed with.
     
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    In Sweden they still sell the 17 R4 with 6820HK, G-Sync 1440p and 1080. You can see it on Alienware.se but you might need to brush up on you Swedish or use Google Translate.
     
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    Is that because of the reported problems with the QHD panel or do you just dislike the resolution?
     
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    Nothing to do with the resolution, and to be honest the problems don't get to me that much either. It's purely because of the TN panel color reproduction, as a person who has appreciated oled screens for a while and am even interested in HDR content, even IPS is bare minimum for me. So Contrast, color reproduction, black levels. These are quite important stuff for me. Hence the reason why I'm considering the alienware 13. It has a beautiful oled screen with the cost of significant GPU power.
     
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