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quardo nvs or quardo fx - which one is better?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by asdfzxcv, Sep 29, 2008.

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  1. asdfzxcv

    asdfzxcv Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've a question about dell lattitude and dell lattitude.
    These two laptop've a different graphic chip. Which one is better for some 3d program like Sketchup, CAD, 3DSMAX. I prefer on Lattitude e6400 , It's look slim and good design. That's OK. But I've a question about a GPU in this laptop. Can it play some games?
    - The Sim2
    - Need for speed
    - Pro Evolution Soccer
    If I compare Quardo NVS160 & GFORCE 9300. Which one is better for some 3D program? Quardo NVS???
    - Quardo NVS160 & Quardo FX370 - How about a diffrent?
    Lattitude or Precision???

    PS. I don't want to carry a big one like 15 inch laptop. Is it possible to place more powerful GPU on 14 inch laptop (Like quardo fx770 from precision 4400)
     
  2. allfiredup

    allfiredup Notebook Virtuoso

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    The Quadro FX 770M in the DELL Precision is more powerful than either the FX 370M or NVS 160M.

    Typically, the Quadro FX-models have been better performers than the less expensive Quadro NVS models. For instance, the Quadro FX 570M is based on the GeForce 8600M GT core while the NVS 140M (model prior to 160M) is based on the lesser GeForce 8400M GS. I'm not certain, but I seem to recall that the FX 770M is built off of the GeForce 9600 GS or GT core.

    The FX 370M (along with the 360M) are the entry-level FX models. I wasn't able to find any benchmark results on for the FX 370M, but I did for the 360M. I also didn't find any for the NVS 160M yet, but for comparison I did find results for the older NVS 140M. Interestingly, the 140M scored 1477 on 3DMark06 while the FX 360M's result of 1572 was only 95 '3DMarks' greater. For comparison, the FX 570M had a 3DMark06 score of 3872, about 2.5 times greater than either of the lesser cards.

    Go for the FX 770 if you need real graphics horsepower!
     
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    allfiredup Notebook Virtuoso

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    I forgot one other thing. Regarding your question about the GeForce 9300M vs. the Quadro NVS 160M- which is better for 3D programs? The Quadro NVS and FX models are optimized for business use including CAD and numerous other professional applications. I would say the Quadro models are definitely the way to go for graphics-intensive professional purposes!

    Here are the links to the main product pages for the Quadro FX and Quadro NVS mobile products on the nVIDIA website. There's some useful info here, take a look-

    Quadro NVS- http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_fbs.html
    Quadro FX- http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadrofx_go.html
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Precision > Latitude. You can't change the GPU from 15" -> 14". Here are roughly what each GPU corresponds to (consumer model)

    FX 3700M = 9800M GTX (17")
    FX 2700M = 9700M GTS (17")
    FX 1700M = 9700M GS (17", maybe 15")
    FX 770M = 9600M GT (15")
    FX 370M = 9400M GS (14")
    NVS 160M = 9300M GS (14")
    NVS 150M = 9200M GS (14")
     
  5. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    WOW, how do you know all of this? did you do your research or check the cores? im very interested in seeing what the v5700/v5725(especially) can do
    i knew about the top half but not the bottom half.



    EDIT: Looking back at this i think the 370m = 9500m GS...are you sure a 9400 even exists? Maybe a typo?
     
  6. pm1online

    pm1online Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks allot mate, i was really looking for this.
    I was thinking of buying a Hp 8730w or maybe a Hp 8730w (i didn't decide yet) but i still was looking for benchmarks of these cards.

    Nvidia quadro FX 770,2700 and 3700 , with the little table i can now look at the benchmarks of the normal graphical cards to compare them :)

    and is it possible to post the based core's of the firegl's too . I'm thinking of the ATi FireGL V5725, also one of the optional graph-cards for the new Hp 8730w.
     
  7. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    My data is from the GPU cores. It might not be 100% as I haven't confirmed them with real samples however. The 370M is definitely not a 9500M GS, which is a G84 (8600M GT). It's based on the G98 core and yeah nVidia doesn't officially list the 9400M, but it should be better than a 9300M. The ATI cards are:

    HD 4850 - M98 (I don't think this is public yet though)
    HD 3870 - RV670
    HD 3850 - RV670
    HD 3670 - RV620
    HD 3650 - RV635 (I think the 3xxx are also all M86 series)
    FireGL V5700 - M86-GL (based on the HD 3650)
    HD 3470 - RV620
    HD 3450 - RV620
    HD 3430 - M82-SE

    I'm really tired, I forgot the ATI naming - I think they use Mxx and RVxxx (the more common one). I hope someone can confirm these.
     
  8. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Notebookcheck has a very useful table of GPUs including benchmark results. The are some benchmark results for the NVS 160M (#80) which are in the same range as the 9300M GS.

    Also remember that the more powerful the GPU is, then (for a given hardware generation) the greater the power consumption and heat. The power leakage on idle is also likely to be more.

    John
     
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    NVS 150M, NVS 160M, FX370M and 9300M GS are based on exactly same core which is a series 9 of nvidia mobile part with 8 unified DX10 stream processors and 64bits memory bus. Only differences between these models are core/shader/memory speed and driver support (office certification for Quadro NVS, CAD/CAO certification for FX and gaming oriented for Mobile GeForce). But the difference are really minimal between these models and if you don't use 3D apps like 3DSMAX or Solidworks all the day, you should not see any difference between these 3 iterations of the same core.


    This been said, e6400 3D performance is not suitable for modern gaming but has no issue to run the old titles you mentioned.
     
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    i purchased the Hp elitebook 8730w, i should have it by 20 october , i'll write a review ;)

    specs are:
    intel T9400 2.53 GHz 6 MB cache 1066 MHz FSB
    17" WSXGA+ 1680x1050
    2048 MB DDR2 800 MHz (1x2 Gb so i can upgrade easily to 4 Gb)
    250Gb smart SATA 7200 rpm with Hp 3D driveguard
    DVD+/RW SuperMulti DL lightscribe drive
    package includes windows XP pro and windows vista business edition
    bluetooth
    intel wifi ABGN
    fingerprint reader ...
    ATi mobility FireGL V5725 256 MB dedicated memory
    3 years pick up and return
     
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