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Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by scrlk, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. karman

    karman Notebook Geek

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    Me and my girlfriend have similar configuration: Core i5-6300 HQ, AMD FirePro W5170M and UHD IGZO display.

    We had not any problems on Windows 7 Professional with graphics, hibernation, sleep mode or power management. At this moment both machines work under Linux distributions, so I am unable to give you specific Windows drivers version which were working.

    However, I am almost sure that something is wrong with operating system or graphic drivers. To be honest, I have experienced a lot of troubles with AMD Linux drivers (both open-source and
    proprietary). FirePro W5170M is still not well supported by AMD drivers. :( Only Ubuntu 14.04 LTS works out-of-the-box.

    Did you considered to make a clean Windows installation? It is a little bit inconvenient, but should help or make you sure that hardware or drivers are broken definitely.
     
  2. goldme

    goldme Notebook Enthusiast

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    Already done. That's almost the first thing I did.
     
  3. karman

    karman Notebook Geek

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    Probably the best solution for you, would be replacement for different configuration with NVIDIA Quadro graphic card. In sleep mode the graphic card is disabled and powered off. Probably AMD driver has bug and is unable to reinitialize the GPU or VRAM after lid opening.

    We do not know which Windows version you use. However, if you have some time, would you like to install Windows 10? All Windows su***, especially Windows 10, but it has the best hardware support of all versions. Only Windows 10 and Linux 4.4 kernel support fully some new hardware (e.g. Skylake CPU specific functions). If your problems would occur on Windows 10 too, it could be hardware issue.
     
  4. goldme

    goldme Notebook Enthusiast

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    It is a clean install of Windows 10. It came with Windows 7 but the restore partition contained windows 10. Which is weird. Anyhow, I installed directly from an ISO from Microsoft. Then went over all drivers that Windows 10 installed and checked the version against what Dell was advertising. I off course installed all drivers anyhow to see if that was the cause.
     
  5. LouieAtienza

    LouieAtienza Notebook Consultant

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    You could try to disable devices in Device Manager one by one and see if the problem disappears. Then you'll know which driver(s) maybe causing issues. Truthfully, I rarely use sleep mode, rather I shut my machine down whenever possible.
     
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  7. mr_handy

    mr_handy Notebook Evangelist

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    1) Ignoring the difference between CRCs and checksums (and more complicated forms of ECC or erasure coding), error-correcting codes on file systems or storage mostly aren't protection against memory errors, as they'll happily set a checksum of corrupted data.
    2) It's in error to say "every file has checksums": Not all file formats have checksums; off the top of my head, of mainstream ones, only compressed archives and signed executable files do. DBMS systems often do, but even there not universally. Source code files almost never do.
    3) It's also in error to say "every file system has checksums" NTFS does not have checksums; file system checksums only exist in the Windows world on RFS which is Windows Server only.
    In the Linux world, ext3 and ext4 are still most common and they don't have checksums. btrfs and ZFS do, and both are becoming more mainstream, but neither one is as common as the ext file systems.
    4) I've seen plenty of well-written applications that don't re-read data from the output stream. Indeed, outside of things involving bulk data pipelines and replication -- or applications using "less reliable" media like tape or optical disks -- I've seen very few applications, well- or badly-written that do so. Perhaps it's more common in certain professional software.
    5)

    I've had spontaneous crashes which were caused by a DIMM failing. My time is not big money (I'm salaried, and do enough stuff besides coding that if I'm down for a half hour or an hour to get the IT guys to replace a DIMM, so what?), and it's not 100% certain that the failures were something ECC would fix... although I've seen enough ECC-fixed errors on servers to suspect that they were. In general, I've seen more crashes due to memory errors than I've seen any sign of corruption.

    How does vPro allow allow spying unless you intentionally enable it? (Mind, with Dell, even with a vPro enabled CPU, you have to pay extra with most models to enable the AMT/vPro in the firmware -- I can't remember if that's the case for the M7510, but it is still the case for the current-generation Latitudes.)

    Also, where do you get that the Xeons are in practice much hotter than the i7? They're clocked slightly higher, but the TDP is the same and they're (one would hope) coming out of premium bins. The TJUNCTION is the same 100'C for either.
     
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  8. umiki

    umiki Notebook Enthusiast

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    sorry for the silly question, but I don't understand a thing and since I' m arguing with Dell about the screen, I would like to be sure that I' m using correct terms.
    You wrote:

    "The views are wide angle but as soon as you move your head the colors change"

    in my mind "Wide Viewing angle" (which is in the dell description of the screen) means the opposite of "as soon as you move your head the colors change", instead in this sentence they seem to be independent concepts

    am I wrong? what does "Wide Viewing angle" mean?
    thanks
     
  9. goldme

    goldme Notebook Enthusiast

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    As I said it is weird. If I view the screen from a very wide angle the picture looks ok. So the wide view aspect of the screen is as advertised. In general when your eyes are still the picture looks great. As soon as you move your head you start to see that part that you were looking at get darker and lighter as you move. It is like a 3d picture that changes when you move it but off course a lot less effect. However. It might grow on you after a while and you won't notice it.
     
  10. karman

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    You are right that ECC memory could be useful and could protect against some data errors. However, it is not very common situation.
    Here your are wrong. You do not have to pay to enable vPro/AMT. It is disabled by default in Dell Latitude E7440 and E7450, but you can switch it on by yourself. I do not accuse Dell or Intel. However, Intel vPro/AMT is poor-documented, proprietary, closed-source set of management functions whit possible security holes. In this case only Intel is able fix this bugs. It does not sound good, does it?

    Xeon could be hotter than i7, like i7 could be hotter than i5.
    I have no idea, how could we help you. It looks like other Skylake generation workstations have drivers problems too: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P70-Workstation-Review.158308.0.html
     
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