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nvidia's Digital Vibrance in INTEL Graphics card?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by coolguy1, Jun 28, 2009.

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  1. coolguy1

    coolguy1 Notebook Guru

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    Guys,

    I am looking for an office laptop.. want E6400.. but, I don't want to go w/ nvidia video due to lot of heat and fan issues. Only reason I wanted to go w/ nvidia is their DIGITAL Vibrance... I LOVE IT!! Make the colors very rich and bright and I cannot live w/ it.

    Does Intel video card have something close? My old laptop had Intel video and it is very junk, it had blue tint to entire screen.
     
  2. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Nvidia solution for this laptop is no problem. The Laptop seams to use its metal base as a huge heat sink. By also having the GPU put on reverse on the motherboard (pointing down), allows the keyboard and palm rest be much cooler, for an end result of being light warm under heavy load.
    The laptop doesn't become hot (see my signature I overclocked that GPU to extremes with no problem).

    Under normal system operation (system set at high performance and plug-in), the GPU is at 50-51C (47 when idle) . When you go on battery mode, the GPU slows down and locks there for the longest battery life possible for such GPU, and reduce heat.

    Things that should concern you in your selection of GPU:
    - Battery Life. Despite Nvidia reduces speed system (PowerMizer), the Intel option (which is equivalent to a Geforce 7300 in performance) uses less power. The battery different is not huge, but it's it there. We are talking about 30-45min of battery life (on a 9-cell) depending on what you do.

    - Aero experience. Both GPU offer a great Aero experience with Vista and Win 7 64-bit. However, this changes when you go on battery. Because, the Nvidia solution uses 64-bit memory instead of 128-bit to cut power consumption (can't be changed on the fly, and when you double the bits you double the power consumption of the the GPU memory), this is where performance hit shows. Intel solution can afford 128-bit memory (hence, why the different in power consumption is not extremely that big) as it's less powerful. Anyway, Nvidia Aero experience under Battery, is not terrible, but it's not as smooth as if the system is plug-in.

    - Technology and Power. Nvidia solution offers you PhysX for your game or supported simulations, CUDA and OpenGL GPU rendering to render things on the GPU rather than on the CPU, which shows advantageous in some supported applications. The video card allows you to light game at about minimum/medium settings smoothly, and do some light CAD projects.

    - Driver Support. Nvidia is known to always support all it's GPU. You can easily find Nvidia early pre-Geforce video card drivers. Not the case for Intel.
    Also, Nvidia uses 1 driver for all GPU, which make it easier to update the drivers for your system, and take advantage of driver optimization done. Also Intel thinks "per-application" focus on its driver, which leads to their famouse software compatibility list, which result that if your application uses the GPU and is not supported by Intel (unpopular, too new, not target market for teh GPU) then it will have a big performance hit, or even crash. Nvidia focuses on drivers that work on any applications/game.

    I hope this helps in selecting the proper GPU that fits your need. It basically comes down too: Battery life versus performance. If you don't need the power, than Intel is the way to go.

    Anyway, to answer your question. No you can't. The Nvidia Control Panel communicated with the GPU. The image adjustment features are not software rendered, but hardware.

    If you use Win7, you can use it's build in software image adjustment feature... However, it's on gamma, color, brightness and contrast.
     
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    weirdo81622 Notebook Evangelist

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    I think you're mistaking something here. The "vibrance" of the screen has nothing to do with the GPU. Neither does the tint.

    The qualities of what shows on the screen - vibrant colors, viewing angles, brightness, contrast, tint, etc, all depend on the actual screen. If you get the same computer, one with an Intel and one with an Nvidia, you will see no difference looking at what is onscreen.
     
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    coolguy1 Notebook Guru

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    GoodBytes - WoW! That's an awesome explanation!!! Thank you very much.

    Mine at idle times seems to be at 60C, so laptops blows out very hot air.. if I put it directly on my laptop, then I will feel the heat big time.. so I had to use Antec laptop cooler when using on the lap. Yah it makes sense 'Digital vibrance' is hardware feature.

    by the way, in nvidia control panel in Windows7 RC, i dont see powermizer option.. Is it by default or I have to enable somewhere? Also I loaded Ntune and put the clocks to lowest.. but they still seem to go up and down and sometimes 500Mhz. It doesn't stick to the custom clocks set.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. It's actually GPU feature. I see you have nvidia too.. go to Nvidia Control Panel -> Display -> Adjust desktop color settings -> Move the slider for Digital vibrance.. you will see what i am taking about. ITs AWESOME, all the colors come alive.
     
  6. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    PowerMizer cannot normally be accessed.

    To change its behavior, you can use my freeware tool I made:
    http://www.nvgpupro.com/
    (I am finishing setting up the forum, and 3 missing pages as we speak :))
     
  7. coolguy1

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    Ohh.. does it work in Win7 RC? I am using latest nvidia 186.03.. I thought latest 185/186 series have some problem w/ Powermizer.

    I don't play any games on this laptop, so want to underclock the nvidia card completely to the lowest to avoid heat and fan on constantly.
     
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    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Version 2.0, just released does support the 186 series drivers (as well as the older ones, of course).

    My tool doesn't overclock or underclock a GPU. It only allows you to turn on/off Nvidia powerMizer on certain states. For example you can set the GPU to turn off PowerMizer when you are plug-in but turn it back on as soon as you are on battery.

    When PowerMizer is enabled, when you are idle or on battery, your GPU should be underclocked at minimum speed.
    If you want to manage the speed, check out my signature for overclocking the GPU tutorial using Nvidia provided tools (just increase for increasing the speed, you decrease it). As I explain in the tutorial its profile base, meaning you can set it to load any overclock/underclock profile when you want manually or automatically.
     
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    Thanks Loaded now.. thank you very much for all your help!! you are a asset to this forum!
     
  10. BlackRussian

    BlackRussian Notebook Deity

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    Not fully correct as one could have the same laptops and the screens are both from different manufactures and differ in viewing angles, color etc etc.
    But yeah all down to ones screen...:)
     
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