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M6400 Matte sceen owners?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by simonpickard, Dec 6, 2008.

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  1. simonpickard

    simonpickard Notebook Consultant

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    I guess when it comes down to it, it totally depends how sensitive to reflections you are. I was testing this out in a computer store this weekend. About 90% of laptops now come with this reflective type of screen.
    The new macbook pro's are the same, no matte versions left. I guess we should all get used to it sooner or later as it looks like this is where ALL laptop screens are heading.

    Regards,
    Simon
     
  2. misterbk

    misterbk Notebook Consultant

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    But I have used only matte screens in the past and they have all been great, if not sometimes even gorgeous? Nobody would complain about the contrast on a Dell 2408wfp and it's matte? I guess I just need to see them side by side. If you have a link to an article explaining the contrast problem in matte screens then I'd be curious. I've seen one article discussing the difference but it talked more about the "bumpy" matte surface causing "distortion" or blurring the image. My reaction was not to listen to them though... It sounded like someone applying a limited knowledge of physics to a theory they were unable to observe themselves, especially because I was sitting in front of a matte LCD and was able to see the sub-pixel details between individual crystal cells.

    Apple has always been form over function. That's why you can't buy a high-end graphics laptop from them - it would be thick and heavy, by necessity, to dissipate the heat made by the components. I've shopped with them a few times, you can only get entry level. Also they barred the user access to the hard drive just because Jobs insisted on a lack of visible panels, plates and screws. (For aesthetic purposes.)

    All serious business notebook manufacturers carry matte screens on their newest models. I've heard it said in notebook reviews that the typical business user prefers it because it allows them to work in bright environments like outdoors and fluorescent lit workplaces. (Point being, as long as there is a demand it won't go away. All it would take is one generation of shoppers to continue buying last year's model instead of the new release, to get their matte screens.)

    Don't get me wrong, if you like glossy, I grant you your preference! I'm just betting that most people who are generating color sensitive content (as opposed to modifying or correcting) will not be in that group.
     
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    simonpickard Notebook Consultant

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    "Don't get me wrong, if you like glossy, I grant you your preference! I'm just betting that most people who are generating color sensitive content (as opposed to modifying or correcting) will not be in that group."

    Maybe, maybe not. I'm yet to hear of anyone with a non covert, i.e. glossy, M6400. Where are all these people?

    Is there no one out there that's ordered the Matte LED version? I would love to hear some feedback on this screen.

    Regards,
    Simon
     
  4. Intoxicate

    Intoxicate Notebook Evangelist

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    I didn't want to jump on the matte-vs-glossy train. The only thing I mentioned is, that if you take a glass plate that's glossy for itself, then it would make more sense to put a pure, none glossy screen under the glass plate.

    The last glossy screen I had was the Inspiron 9400, after that I had a long time matte screens, all my external monitors are matte. For multimedia, games, videos glossy works fine. If you work in difficult light settings I prefer a matte screen. I made some photos of a XPS M1530 glossy screen vs. the matte M4400 and the glass M6400, those pictures shows, that the black on the matte and glass screen are the same, the glossy black is more intensive.
    Anyway I like the screen, but think it could be a bit better ;)

    [​IMG]

    Edit: After I calibrated the E2E-screen, the blacks were much better. It is even blacker than the XPS's black now, but the E2E screen is 100nit brighter. Therefore I need to reverse my first post, in which I was a bit disapointed about the RGB-Screen. If you buy the RGB-screen do yourself a favour and calibrate it!

    [​IMG]
     
  5. misterbk

    misterbk Notebook Consultant

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    Wanted to let you guys know - sometime soon I will be taking side by side pictures of the Covet and its E2E RGBLED, alongside the standard M6400 with its non-E2E RGBLED.

    Those interested can wait until it arrives... I honestly don't know how long it will take, but after some emails I sent they seem very interested in solving this problem of mine, so it should be quick.


    Although, honestly, anyone who has seen a Covet has also seen the other screen. The screen is the same part on both - the Covet just has a pane of glass. (Hence the Dell Sales confusion on whether the Covet is glossy or matte.)

    We'll find out more conclusively when I get the replacement.


    I think there's a scarcity of people because the Covet came out first. The standard M6400 didn't have an RGBLED option until maybe three weeks ago.
     
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    simonpickard Notebook Consultant

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    If you could post photos back to this thread I'd be most grateful thanks!

    Regards,
    Simon
     
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    misterbk Notebook Consultant

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    Came across this unresolved thread while I was searching for pictures of the non-E2E screen...

    I returned my Covet because Dell refused to ship a reasonable replacement and also would not replace the E2E screen with a matte RGBLED. So I won't have the pics I said I would take above.

    I still can't find any pictures of the matte RGBLED screen. I'm trying to decide if I should jump on the current HP 8730 deal or try again with the (cheaper) M6400. Anyone have pics?
     
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    It is the best laptop screen currently on the market.
     
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    From my communications with Dell they will analyze each M6400 individually. See my posts on main M6400 thread. Their objective is no problems with M6400 ...
     
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    It's the best if you prefer a matte screen. The E2E will give you a even more cleaner and sharper image, but instead of the typicalle matte color-wash-out you will get some reflections in some settings.

    Unfortunately there are almost no pics of the matte RGB screen, could you post some pics?
     
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