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Dell Precision M6700, NVIDIA Quadro P5000 GPU upgrade

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Aaron44126, Feb 8, 2019.

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    Currently there is no vbios for P5200 that would work in the M6700 :(
    The thing I'm looking for is a working P4200 vbios so a core swap with my P4000 should work (both have 8 chip of GDDR5 while the P5000 and P5200 have 16 chip of GDDR5)
     
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  3. Aaron44126

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    From the Fire Strike score it looks like P4000 it is running a bit over 25% faster than M5000M (I get around 8000 on that card). I'd like to see what it could do if it could actually boost.
     
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    I think with boost the card could goes up to 1600~1700MHz which would lead to 25~30% of performance improvement and can beat the 1070s max-q and some 1070 with low clocks.
    Also compare only the graphical score, my I7 3920XM is running at 4.2GHz on all core (really easy trick if you want to try on your 3820QM) which give a lot of extra CPU performance that affect the total score.
     
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    Hi there,

    I also try to work p5000 on m6800 but i got a problem like a @Aaron44126 'TDR FAILURE'

    does anyone have p5000 original vvios 86.04.3a.00.15? when I work to put on p5000, I forgot saving original vvios

    I also want to back m5000m so, I want to back my p5000 vvios 86.04.2E.00.OD to 86.04.3A.00.15 for selling or changing laptop to 7710 :(

    help me~~

    and then, can i ask youguys a question for something about inf moding?

    MY ID is PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB6&SUBSYS_15CD1028

    so I change inf file '%NVIDIA_DEV.1BB6.07B1.1028% = Section175, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB6&SUBSYS_07B11028' to '%NVIDIA_DEV.1BB6.07B1.1028% = Section175, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB6&SUBSYS_15CD1028'

    Is this right?

    I try to do again and again . and I got a graphic device code 43

    So, my m6800 power off for 2 and 3 days and try again it work well(not a code 43). I don't know what is problem

    I need youguys help

    thankyou.
     
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    My P5000 actually came with vBIOS 86.04.3A.00.25 (attached).

    Not sure what to make about your code 43 issue. For my M5000M I replace "VEN_10DE&DEV_13F8&SUBSYS_06DA1028" with "VEN_10DE&DEV_13F8&SUBSYS_153F1028" (all occurrences) and other than dealing with driver signing stuff, that is all that has to be done. It should be a similar replacement for any other Quadro card.
     

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    Try to use drivers with version before 399. Also use those form nVIDIA website instead of Dell. Replace the section where K5000m used to be and try that out.

    P.S. is brightness control working? Is it stuck at 1250Mhz or capped at 1250Mhz? it'd still be better than GTX 980m if it's capped at 1250 Mhz with woring brightness control
     
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    I think that he mentioned that he has LVDS display + Optimus? Brightness control would only be an issue with the IPS display.
     
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    The card would not got higher than 1250MHz (even if it consume 65w or 90w of power), on idle it goes to the usual 139MHz (but still not "disabled").
    I discuss a litle bit with svet7 (on msi forum) about bios modding and he also think it is drivers related, I tried quadro and geforce drivers, I also try to make my card look like a GTX1070 (from the inf file) but it will not install the drivers.
    I'm also lazy about flashing several vbios (like all geforce pascal) on my P4000 to see if there is other compatible vbios, on techpowerup vbios were not so well organised, especially for pascal were desktop and laptop share nearly the same name, I might still try the P5000 vbios on my P4000 (even if there is a difference with GDDR5 chip).
    My last thing to try is to modify the hardware id in order to be recognized as a 1070.

    With the LVDS lcd, brightness control work just fine, I think the brightness issue with IPS display is linked to the "RGB module" present on premiercolor M6700.
    My next upgrade will be a 4k lcd (the sharp LQ173D1JW33 seems the best), indeed, there is a "normal" eDP cable for the M6700, it is sold as a "3D cable".
    On kepler and maxwell card we got displayport (eDP) 1.2 while on pascal it's 1.4, since the eDP is a direct passthrought, only the graphics card is controlling the display. By looking on the DP specification I think that all kepler/maxwell/pascal should support 4k 60hz or 1440p 144hz in 10 bits.


    (as I'm writing this I noticed that I never ask to svet if he can modify boost frequency of the vbios)
     
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    @RMSMajestic can you send a screenshot of this tab with your P5000 ?
    Thanks
     

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