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Dell Precision 7560 & Precision 7760 pre-release discussion

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Aaron44126, Apr 13, 2021.

  1. zhongze12345

    zhongze12345 Notebook Evangelist

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    The extra $1,000 makes buying an eGPU (once prices go back to normal...) a faster option, though you do sacrifice on portability a bit (A4000 ain't bad tho). I hope eGPU's work in addition to the existing GPU since that would be nice in programs that take advantage of multiple GPU's. Now with TB4, eGPU's are an even better option (because TB4 apparently makes the bandwidth issue slightly less bad with eGPU's)

    Edit: Only having 8GB of VRAM in the A4000 is infuriating considering that the amount hasn't increased in the last 4 years (P4000 also had 8GB). Maybe this is part of their quadro rebranding (not called quadro anymore). Though I'm not a gamer and 8GB should be enough for a while for creative applications. I guess the only benefit for paying 2x the $$$ for a "quadro" card is ECC memory and the knowledge that it will survive pretty much indefinitely. "Quadro" definitely isn't as appealing anymore.
     
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    zhongze12345 Notebook Evangelist

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    A4000 and A5000 is a tough choice. Personally, I would get an eGPU later for $1,000 which will considerably outperform the A5000. But it depends on his use case. It's pretty hard to run into vram limits with 8gb in many applications, but it does heavily depend on use case. For CAD, any "quadro" card above the A3000 should be good because of the unlocked double precision calculations. Depending on the CAD application, a "quadro" can greatly outperform the equivalent GeForce card.
    Most software should have lots of user benchmarks on hardware. I would suggest comparing the cards on available benchmarks, but keep in mind that the desktop cards with the same name are very different from the mobile versions. Also for the mobile versions, the TDP of the card plays a big difference. But benchmarks should give you a good general idea of what will work best.
     
  3. Ionising_Radiation

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    Given prices nowadays, I think one would be hard-pressed to find a GPU that outperforms the A4000 (even at 110 W) for $1000, let alone an eGPU with an enclosure.

    I'm seeing GT 1030s go for $250 or so nowadays.
     
  4. Aaron44126

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    System ordered for work (to replace my Precision 7530):

    Precision 7560
    * Xeon W-11955M
    * NVIDIA RTX A2000
    * 4K HDR 600 display (+ IR cam)
    * 64GB RAM (ECC)
    * 512GB SSD
    * 95Whr battery

    Our IT department selected 3 years of ProSupport Plus. Dell quoted a price around $500 cheaper than what is available on the web site (maybe because we are ordering four of them).

    Going to add another SSD separately (...likely Sabrent Rocket Q4 4TB).

    Looking forward to trying it out... in like eight weeks when they finally show up.
     
  5. TheQuentincc

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    I think the A4000 is a better choice vs the A5000, 8GB is sufficient for these type of card, both A4000 and A5000 should have a TDP between 80 to 110W, I believe they might have the same TDP so gaming performance will be within 10% difference.
     
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    Both are 90W in Precision 7560 and 115W in Precision 7760, with @Dell-Mano_G having indicated that GPUs can boost to 140W in the 7760 (not sure exactly how that works).
     
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    Placed the order. Here is the final config we went with.
    • 7560
    • 11th Gen Intel Core Processor i9-11950H (8 Core, 24MB Cache, 2.60GHz to 5.00GHz, 45W, vPro
    • M.2 2280 1 TB, Gen 3 PCIe x4 NVMe, Solid State Drive
    • Win 10 Pro
    • No Windows Auto pilot
    • 180W E5 Power Adapter (EPEAT)
    • 15.6 UHD HDR 600, 3840x2160, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 100% Adobe, 600 Nits, IR Cam/Mic,WLAN
    • 64 GB, 2 x 32 GB, DDR4, 3200MHz, Non-ECC, SODIMM
    • Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210 Wireless Card with Bluetooth 5.2
    • No Additional Hard Drive
    • Palm rest Fingerprint Reader, Smart card Reader, & NFC
    • V Pro Disabled
    • 6 Cell 95Whr Long Life Cycle Lithium Ion Polymer Battery (3 Years Warranty)
    • NVIDIA RTX A5000 w/16 GB GDDR6
    • Internal Single Pointing Backlit Keyboard, US English with 10 Key Numeric Keypad
    • 5 year Pro Support Plus.
     
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    Yeah, that's why I said later. Maybe 4000 series will be a decent improvement, although it probably won't because of Nvidia's tick tock cycle. 3rd gen RT and tensor cores might be decently improved, making the midrange stuff as good as the A5000/3080. Though I guess the waiting can be infinite if it goes on in that sort of cycle.
    A desktop 3060 goes for around $1000, making the A4000 mobile look like a steal.... ouch. What a world we live in...

    And also, (making generalizations here), a laptop 3070 is only 5-10% slower than a laptop 3080 (according to Blender Open Data) when using the dedicated RT cores. About what you would expect considering the increase from 40 to 48 RT cores. So I guess the biggest reason for the upgrade is the extra vram, although at least 12GB should have been on the A4000.
     
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    Looks good! It would be appreciated if you could post some benchmarks when you get it!
    I'm interested in seeing the difference that the GPU TDP makes from the 7560 to the 7760. I am envious of the anti-glare touch screen that the 7560 has though.... it's a shame the 7760 doesn't have it.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's Nvidia Dynamic Boost 2.0, though they could have increased the power in general
     
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