vista SP2, windows update?

So I currently have Vista SP1 installed, and I am thinking I need SP2 (why? does it improve performance or fix anything?)

In any case, should I be able to see SP2 as a download through windows update? I do not see it at all and I'd rather use the windows updater than manually downloading and installing SP2 myself.

 

wait for it to appear on windows update. and why? because it fixes security issues, performance issues, stability issues. you only gain. like when you do a service for your car, or so.

 

I would wait for it to appear on Windows Update. I think Windows Update works in a chronological-way, and downloads the updates you need in the order they should be installed. Maybe you need a few other updates before SP2. Just wait for it on Update and it should show up.

 

I had it on Windows Update for over 2 weeks now, installed it last friday.

It did disappear for a few days last week: it required me to install other important updates at Windows Update (new ones came last week) before it appeared again. After that I was able to install the SP itself.

 

I don't see Windows Vista SP2 update in Windows Update, all I see is Internet Explorer 8 for Windows Vista.

 

Spot on, I needed to complete the other required updates before SP2 showed up. Installing it now, thanks all!

 

ok know I see it, I had to install IE8 first and then SP2 appeared in windows updates.

 

SP2 will off you nothing magical, and no performance increase whatsoever in performance. it is just acumilative update pack for the previous security fixes.


better than sp2 yet, format and install Windows 7 FTW. much much better, faster, and looks better anyway

 

nope, not just an accumulation of security fixes, and performance enhancement in some cases.

sure.. /sarkasm.

now stop spreading that, please.

 

Can you prove the above ? Some review perhaps, because I tried it on a clean Vista SP1 install, and noticed 0 difference, no performance gain in boot time, no performance gain in system responsiveness.


Want a prove that SP2 is just a minor upgrade, and is only a bunch of updates packed in one package?

You CANNOT install SP2 unless you have SP1 installed first. This proves to you that it is mereley just an update, and not a major service pack.

 

performance of wlan connection after standby is documented, and i tested it, it's true.

because it's incremental doesn't make it minor. sp1 was just as incremental, incremental to RTM.

in other words, just because it's based on some certain level of the os (namely sp1) doesn't mean it's small. it just means you don't download all files from sp1 and sp2 in one package, which is most of the time not needed (espencially not from windows updates).

but yes, it's more minor than sp1 of course.


well, jsut google sp2 documentation? and you find all the info what it does besides plain security fixing?

here, for you
quotation of the article titles:
Application compatibility improvements
Hardware ecosystem support and enhancements
Operating system experience updates
Enterprise improvements
Setup and deployment improvements

all not just security fixes.

maybe nothing big in there for you, still, not "just security fixes".


i haven't seen much performance difference except for the wlan thing, yes. then again, even win7 is no (0, nada, niente) faster than vista on my hw. i have ssd's, i am a little special

 

whitepaper means nothing to meh.

ive tried it, no performance gain. period

 

I proved you wrong. you denied "whitepaper means nothing to meh".

you're close to losing the last bit of reputation with such behaviour.

all you said it's just security patches, and i show you it's not. where is the space for you to not agree, actually? except by holding fingers in the head singing "can't hear ya" and running away, that is..


and yes there isn't much performance gain. there is one that can get proven in different hw configurations. the wlan-after-standby/hibernate bugged me and quite some friends actually. it got better for all of us now.

as i said, besides that, no gain for me just like for you. there is no disagreement here.

but win7 was no performance gain for me just as well

 

EXCUSE ME?????? You are saying that according to what you posted there ARE performance gain! and I just told you that in the real world performance, there were no actual gains to meh! so whitepaper means nothing! And if you don't feel Win 7 is faster than Vista, then I don't even need to be having this argument with someone like you

 

no, sir. you stated there is nothing more besides updates. i proved you wrong.

and i stated i have ONE SPECIFIC CASE THAT I CAN NAME where there ARE performance enhancements for 4 persons close to me, including me.

and for the rest i agreed, there is not really much performance gain besides that.

please, i don't want a war with you, but read what you posted yourself in this thread.

and, well, you're in dubai, can't invite you to show that vista is fast here, and win7 is no faster..

but maybe i'll visit dubai one day, then i sure show you

 

Don't confuse the anecdotal with the universal - you may be entirely correct in that you didn't see any performance differences, but that may simply be due to the configuration of your system, not to any deficit in SP2. The same proviso goes for performance under Win 7.

 

Some people might not just want to use non-finished software... and i dont think it looks better than vista at all, i find it annoying to use, even when the taskbar is set to be more like the old one.