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    diskeeper or perfectdisk?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by thecollegekid, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. thecollegekid

    thecollegekid Notebook Consultant

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    which program do you prefer when defragmenting?
     
  2. jegHegy

    jegHegy Notebook Enthusiast

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    PerfectDisk is probably the most efficient defragmenter out there. it's lightweight, fast, and smart.

    FYI, the built-in defragmenter in Windows is actually Diskeeper.
     
  3. invisiblerock

    invisiblerock Notebook Enthusiast

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    Then what's the point to sell it(diskeeper) for windows?
     
  4. angelopatrick

    angelopatrick Notebook Enthusiast

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    yes it is but it's a Stripped Down, Crippled version of the full version of diskeeper.

    for me it's still the best defrag tool; it integrates to the MMC console of XP and its lightweight not much of a resource hog.
     
  5. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    I've used Diskeeper for a few months and it seems to do a fine job. I'm not sure that I actually see performance benefits though.
     
  6. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Another vote for diskeeper.
     
  7. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    I use perfectdisk 7.0. Boot and hibernating are a bit faster (maybe just a subjective observation, but 2GB hiberfil file now writes and loads very fast). I use it from time to time. I like offline defragmenting of all system areas not reachable in Windows defragmenting.
    I don't like icons and graphics in it, but it does its job.
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Diskeeper gets my vote. I don't have it installed at the moment, but when I did, it worked very well.

    Now I have to find my external hard drive with the installer on it.... :p
     
  9. j0hn00

    j0hn00 Notebook Evangelist

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    O&O Defrag is also a good one.
     
  10. itshondo

    itshondo Notebook Geek

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    Diskeeper for me.
     
  11. LuckMC11

    LuckMC11 Computer Extraoirdinaire NBR Reviewer

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    diskeeper for me 3..lol
     
  12. Zerodivine

    Zerodivine Notebook Consultant

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    never used perfect disk..
    but diskeeper works perfectly fine and can feel the slight boost in speed
    so why change? :D
    1 more vote for diskeeper :)
     
  13. Samwise592

    Samwise592 Notebook Consultant

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    perfectdisk wins, by a landslide, This is because it will not only defragment your HDD but re arrange it, putting your startup files at the edge of the drive(the fastest part) and grouping all your frequently used files and your unused files (to prevent future defragmentation) also sometimes when you have a very large fragmented file, diskeeper will just skip over it, perfectdisk dosent do that
     
  14. jegHegy

    jegHegy Notebook Enthusiast

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    as a note, with PerfectDisk i've managed to completely defragment a 100GB partition with literally hundreds of thousands of fragments, which only had a few hundred MBs free. before that i've tried Diskeeper on the same partition. first it complained that i need at least 25% free space before the defrag can be efficient, and then it choked on it a few hours, and finished the thing and left 99.9% of the fragmented files in their place.

    PS: i don't work for Raxco, it's just REALLY GOOD. :D
     
  15. asdf

    asdf Notebook Consultant

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    so if that's the truth about perfectdisk, then why isn't everyone using it and preferring diskkeeper voer perfectdisk. there must be some downsides to perfectdisk.
     
  16. jegHegy

    jegHegy Notebook Enthusiast

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    because everyone is blinded by Diskeeper's well-known name :)
     
  17. asdf

    asdf Notebook Consultant

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    ahhh, well then. and i also read though that perfectdisk was what microsoft windows uses, just a "lite" version. is this true?
     
  18. thecollegekid

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    anyone tried diskeeper pro 10? is it better?
     
  19. jegHegy

    jegHegy Notebook Enthusiast

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    most definately not.
     
  20. ccbr01

    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    Love the diskkeeper. My boot time actually decreased. Great product.
     
  21. ivar

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    if it is your concern, you might try to use "MS bootvis" tool to optimise a little bit. I think what is does is a kind of rearrangement of files similar to defragmentation.

    So far I was happy with Diskeeper, so I can't compare with PerfectDisk.

    A defragmenting tool which I liked even more was o&o defragmenter whose
    trial version I tried once.
     
  22. qwester

    qwester Notebook Virtuoso

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    Diskeeper. I like the smart scheduling feature.
     
  23. smt

    smt Notebook Consultant

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    PerfectDisk does everything that Diskeeper does, but is tiny and lightweight.
     
  24. NissanSupraGTR

    NissanSupraGTR Notebook Evangelist

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    Why does anyone care if its lightweight? I thought you aren't supposed to use anything else when you defrag...
     
  25. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    none of the above :)
    xp built-in degramenter is more than doing the perfect job

    cheers ...
     
  26. Shel

    Shel Notebook Evangelist

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    I've downloaded the demo's of both, and prefer the interface of Perfect Disk. I plan to register it once the 30 day trial expires.

    Years ago, I was on a Mac, and had a defrag program on that machine. What was nice was, when it displayed the graphic representing your hard drive with colored boxes, if you moused over any one box, it would actually display what program/file the box represented... it would give the creator programs name, tell you if it was a program, a document, extension (Mac type program) etc.

    It was pretty cool. Wonder why neither of these programs do that.
     
  27. Projekt

    Projekt Notebook Enthusiast

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    Perfect Disk. I have never used Diskeeper, but PD has never let me down. It is very fast, and much more efficient than the Windows defrag program. I defraged it with the windows one and then it said that it was still 25% fragmented... So I defraged it with Perfect disk and it went down to 0% (I think there were like 2-3 fragmented files that would not be moved...)


    It is a great little program.
     
  28. winterymix

    winterymix Notebook Consultant

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    Perfectdisk here. The SmartPlacement defrag and Offline defrag are great features..and it's very non-intrusive.
     
  29. zzzz73

    zzzz73 Notebook Enthusiast

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    PerfectDisk - It's been a long time since I see my HDD so nicely arranged.

    Diskeeper? The Home version is unable to do that. And the biggest turnoff for me is the dkservice. I am very concious of services/applications that want to access the network. And since I only defrag once in a while, I will not want this service to be running all the time.
     
  30. compaq64

    compaq64 Notebook Consultant

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    Diskeeper 10 Pro. My work uses it so the guy i work with just burned me a full version copy, its pretty awsome, definatly a speed increast, i just have it set to auto defrag everyday using that smart technology or something. Also the Iaafast defrag (Sp) is great.
     
  31. yco

    yco Newbie

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    Tried out the Diskeeper 2007 Pro version and found it to be superlative. Have tried PerfectDisk too. Going to stick to the former.
     
  32. Bobmitch

    Bobmitch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Diskeeper left my disk still too messy when finished. I had numerous issues with Diskeeper Corp not returning e mails for months at a time. Raxco was incredible and went out of their way to make sure I had answers to questions. After using Diskeeper for over 6 years...I made the switch to Perfectdisk. Believe it or not...my system performance has increased since moving to Perfectdisk 8.

    Bob
     
  33. Matt

    Matt Notebook Deity

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    Diskeeper worked great when I was running XP...
     
  34. MadHouse24

    MadHouse24 Notebook Consultant

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    running latest version of diskeeper
     
  35. ProntoR2

    ProntoR2 Notebook Consultant

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    Somebody recommended JkDefrag (I can't remember who, so don't give me the credit) as a freeware alternative to Diskeeper and Perfectdisk. It has a command line version, a gui version, and an optional screen-saver mode.

    If you're at all familiar with command line switches, you'll find this proggie to be very powerful. It has various modes (see readme or website) for various goals and is pretty light on the resources. Also, the command line switches makes setting up a Windows Scheduled Task really easy while maintaining flexibility.
     
  36. unnamed01

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    Has anyone tried O&O Defrag? Using the windows xp defrag tool it takes me about 6-8hrs!!! and my harddrive is only 40GB!!!??? But this happens to me with every defragging program I've tried =( ...
     
  37. ProntoR2

    ProntoR2 Notebook Consultant

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    I've used O&O on my desktop with ~ 400GBs (across 3 HDDs) and doing all of that didn't even take 4 hours. What else is running in the background when you're trying it? Also, what kind of hardware are you running?
     
  38. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    I could not agree with you more here, I was a diskeeper user in the past but about 2 years ago a friend told me about Perfectdisk I tried it and was amazed at how clean the the disk map was when it was finished, the computer was also noticeably faster too. From that day on I said goodbye to diskeeper and haven't looked back !
     
  39. unnamed01

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    Nothing...and its same in safe mode =/...but I have a really poor system:

    P4 2.2Ghz
    40GB HDD
    256MB RAM
    Windows XP
     
  40. ProntoR2

    ProntoR2 Notebook Consultant

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    Yikes.... 256MB of RAM? At first glance that seems to be your biggest bottleneck. If you have the funds I'd look into more RAM, a stick of 512 shouldn't run you much (depending on your system).
     
  41. Pomme

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    diskeeper, never used the other one. Don't have a reason to change.
     
  42. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    I just use the Windows one, and for my pagefile/hiberfil.sys, etc. defragging needs I use the sysinternals tools. Free is a good price to fix a filesystem that can't take care of itself. It's amazing that other systems don't need defragmenting to run correctly.
     
  43. bmnotpls

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    perfect disk can tell you the name of the file.
     
  44. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    As can the sysinternals disk tools. Seriously, check them out. They're free, and they're handy.
     
  45. ProntoR2

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    I absolutely LOVE sysinternals. Mark Russinovich has developed so many useful utilities (all of which are free, tiny, don't require installation or registry entries, and extremely useful) that you'd be foolish not to use some of them! You can get them here.

    *note, do not be put off by the microsoft url, all of these utilities are unchanged from previous versions.
     
  46. theoak

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    PerfectDisk here.

    One thing that I found interesting with Raxco/PerfectDisk is they provide all sorts of documentation detailing results against competitor products. None of the other defrag applications I ran across did this. Of course PerfectDisk excelled. Raxco is obviously very confident in their application.

    I need to echo some of the comments in regards to hibernation. PerfectDisk can defrag the offline files too. Currently Diskeeper can not do this. Going into and starting up from hibernation is definitely faster.

    With that being said I never new of the PageDefrag tool mentioned by Pitabred. I did run it on my PerfectDisk based system. For all the files it listed, it was clean all the way down. So if anything it verified that PerfectDisk is doing its job. I would be curious if a Diskeeper based system could say the same ...

    Obviously a PerfectDisk fan! :)
     
  47. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Actually, Microsoft bought Sysinternals, to bring all their stuff in-house, and use it in their Technet site. There was actually some fear that the tools might go away, but they haven't.
     
  48. ProntoR2

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    You're right, I meant that nothing had been changed. Always good to clarify though.