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    XP SP3 Release Date April 29, 2008

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by SonDa5, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. SonDa5

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    SonDa5, Apr 22, 2008
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  2. davemolina

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    I'm sure it is.

    Looking forward to it.
     
    davemolina, Apr 22, 2008
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  3. talin

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    Old news. :)
     
    talin, Apr 22, 2008
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  4. McGrady

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    nice. cant wait. :O
     
    McGrady, Apr 22, 2008
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  5. Jakpro

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    The majority of the update only contains a compilation of already released updates. Very little of SP3 is anything new.

    I have not seen any confirmed claims of increased performance unless you have not updated since SP2.
     
    Jakpro, Apr 22, 2008
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  6. Greg

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    The nice thing with SP3 though is that all the hotfixes, which normally are not downloaded automatically, will finally be included. Hotfixes which should improve performance, fix other bugs, etc, etc.
     
    Greg, Apr 22, 2008
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  7. SonDa5

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    I hope it inlcludes Direct X10.
     
    SonDa5, Apr 22, 2008
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  8. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you do a little searching, you'll realize that it will never happen.
     
    Greg, Apr 22, 2008
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  9. sirmetman

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    I hope it includes 4GB RAM support.





    (kidding)
     
    sirmetman, Apr 22, 2008
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  10. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm glad you are kidding, because it CAN'T.
     
    Greg, Apr 22, 2008
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  11. Gintoki

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    Thanks for the info.
     
    Gintoki, Apr 22, 2008
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  12. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    And I was about to reformat my computer. Looks like I'll be waiting a little bit more and then integrate this.

    :)
     
    ScifiMike12, Apr 22, 2008
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  13. mew1838

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    Will installing this reset the Windows settings?
     
    mew1838, Apr 26, 2008
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  14. bigozone

    bigozone JellyRoll touring now

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    i've been running SP3 RC2 for a while now and it didn't reset any windows settings that i recall...

    but i could be wrong.... what kind of settings are you worried about?
     
    bigozone, Apr 26, 2008
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  15. knightingmagic

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    So will SP3 include everything, including SP1 and SP2?
     
    knightingmagic, Apr 26, 2008
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  16. X2P

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    Is there point in reformatting or cleaninstall with it?
     
    X2P, Apr 26, 2008
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  17. talin

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    Service packs are cumulative, and include all previous updates, so yes. :)
     
    talin, Apr 27, 2008
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  18. HTWingNut

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    Which seems odd, because isn't SP2 larger than SP3?
     
    HTWingNut, Apr 27, 2008
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  19. eleron911

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    Kewl, 2 more days :D
     
    eleron911, Apr 27, 2008
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  20. Mr. Wonderful

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    So then there will be some updates in SP3 that I won't have, right? (For the most part, I've only downloaded updates for my computers through Windows Update and not Microsoft's Download page.) But then the post above yours said that most won't notice an improvement. It will be interesting to see what kind of effects the service pack has on the general users.
     
    Mr. Wonderful, Apr 27, 2008
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  21. Arki

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    SuperSite has good information on SP3 if anybody wants to check it out.

    http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/xp_sp3.asp

    More links on the right hand side.

    I guess if I do a clean install with my XP disc w/ SP2 then go to Windows Update, ignore the other updates and only download and install SP3, all those other updates will go away since they're included in SP3?
     
    Arki, Apr 27, 2008
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  22. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    That`s about right,yes.
    It should contain all previous updates,recommended or not.
     
    eleron911, Apr 27, 2008
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  23. Gophn

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    Why are you guys waiting?

    I have been using the SP3 final 5512 RTM (not RC) for about a week now.

    It works fine, improved some performance with some CPU benchmarks and such. :)
     
    Gophn, Apr 27, 2008
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  24. R4000

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    I'm sure there will be a some updates that will have to be installed first before SP3 even shows up, like WGA and Windows Installer 3.1 (for example).
     
    R4000, Apr 27, 2008
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  25. Arki

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    That's true. I also read that SP3 will be an optional update, so that means it won't be automatically selected as critical updates are. I guess I'll download the critical ones the for my first WU process and then just install SP3 on top of that.

    Thanks.
     
    Arki, Apr 27, 2008
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  26. Gintoki

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    Let me guess, you got it via registry hack? Or MSDN?
     
    Gintoki, Apr 27, 2008
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  27. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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  28. eleron911

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    Registry hack :)
     
    eleron911, Apr 27, 2008
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  29. Gintoki

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    A Google hack and a registry hack eh? Hacking sure has become diluted, back in my day.....
     
    Gintoki, Apr 27, 2008
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  30. unnamed01

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    No gaming boost huh? Oh well it wasn't going to happen anyways. Hope its not too big cause I only have 3GB left on my C: drive.
     
    unnamed01, Apr 27, 2008
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  31. Nirvana

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    i installed it few days ago as well, the RTM version.
    programs start up much quicker compare to my MBP with SP2
     
    Nirvana, Apr 27, 2008
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  32. disciplined

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    yup just downloaded it too (no hacking just quick google search)
    doing benchmark comparisons now, but CPU intensive tasks seem to have taken the greatest improvment.

    Not much of a GPU improvement.

    Will post a benchmark comparison thread soon
     
    disciplined, Apr 27, 2008
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  33. disciplined

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    by the way after you install sp3 there are no new updates available on windows update.

    Maybe this might change when it is actually released on Windows Update, but it would seem silly to add more downloads when they could have been inserted to SP3.

    SP3 RTM is supposed to be 316MB so don't be fooled
     
    disciplined, Apr 27, 2008
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  34. knightingmagic

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    There seems to be two types of users, those who fill up hard drives, and those who don't. I'm in the 2nd category :p, with 76GB of free space on a 111GB (advertised as 120GB) drive.
     
    knightingmagic, Apr 27, 2008
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  35. NumLock

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    the SP3 (supposedly final) doesn't install media player 11 (but is available in windows update) and IE7 (not available in windows update)?

    plus: I get an error when i try to open "install/remove windows components" after the installation. :(
     
    NumLock, Apr 28, 2008
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  36. Arki

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    IE7 shows up in my WU fine...
     
    Arki, Apr 28, 2008
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  37. NumLock

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    ah ok. thanks. then prolly my set up has a problem.
     
    NumLock, Apr 28, 2008
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  38. timtravel42

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    ooh so tomorrow huh?
     
    timtravel42, Apr 28, 2008
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  39. Arki

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    Yup!

    Can't wait! I'm going to be there at 12 a.m. lol
     
    Arki, Apr 28, 2008
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  40. Gophn

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    Why dont you guys just find the 5512 RTM... its the final, not RC.
     
    Gophn, Apr 28, 2008
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  41. talin

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    Or just wait till tomorrow to get the official. :rolleyes:
     
    talin, Apr 28, 2008
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  42. Gophn

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    i guess.. :)

    But I dont like to wait if I can help it. ;)
     
    Gophn, Apr 28, 2008
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  43. Shyster1

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    And try to compete with a gazillion other downloaders for server time and bandwidth?
     
    Shyster1, Apr 28, 2008
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  44. Arki

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    Oh, that's right. Hm, I guess I'll give it a week before I download it. Never know when a serious problem will arise anyways.
     
    Arki, Apr 28, 2008
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  45. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    :D Or maybe just a really, really good d/l manager that can run autonomously and deal with getting kicked off thirty or forty times. :D
     
    Shyster1, Apr 28, 2008
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  46. mew1838

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    Anyone? Will I have to redo all the XP tweaks?
     
    mew1838, Apr 28, 2008
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    I don't know. It might reset tcpip.sys's 10 half-open connections limit if you hacked it, but otherwise almost everything should be the same. Just do a backup before you upgrade and if you don't like what you see, roll back with your backup.
     
    knightingmagic, Apr 28, 2008
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  48. Jlbrightbill

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    I can confirm it resets your half-open connections to 10 and also replaces uxtheme.dll. If you were running any custom Msstyles, you won't be after SP3. :) None of the patchers work either so until somebody fixes things, you'll either have to use a 3rd party program such as Window Blinds or settle for something like Royale.
     
    Jlbrightbill, Apr 28, 2008
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  49. talin

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    I'm pretty sure microsoft has a huge server backbone. I downloaded vista sp1 the day it was released, and got it at full speed.
    No worries. :)
     
    talin, Apr 28, 2008
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    It seems to be running fine on my V5201. Aside from the multitude of hotfixes now missing from Add & Remove Programs, everything appears the same on the surface (for me).
     
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