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    Windows 10 Redstone 5

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 25, 2018.

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    Windows 10 1809 FINAL Build 17763.1 (PC) [RS5] has been released to the public!

    Windows 10 Media Creation Tool Build 1809

    Direct ISO Download from Microsoft
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    Windows 10 Build 1809 (Redstone 5) Bloatware Free Edition [Link removed until we get a new MSMG Toolkit]

    * Removed Cortana, Windows Defender, Microsoft Edge, Windows System Restore, Windows Error Reporting, WindosToGo, Device LockDown, Retail Demo Content, Customer Improvement Experience Program, All Windows Store Apps except Xbox as the Windows Game Mode depends on it, and much more.

    .NET Framework 3.5 , Classic Calculator and DirectX 9 are integrated

    *Enabled Classic Windows Photo Viewer to be the default Photo Viewer and disabled the Task View Button from the taskbar

    After you install the Os, the moment you're on the desktop and before you do anything, open Command Prompt as Administrator and run the following command:

    Code:
    DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase

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    List of new Group Policy items in Windows 10 version 1809 and Windows Server 2019

    Let the party begin!

    [​IMG]

    Changes so far that I can see:

    Fixed Windows Boot Delay:

    In Redstone 3 and Redstone 4, as the Windows Loading icon is spinning, it used to hang after 5 seconds for a brief 3 second period then continue to spin/load Windows, that caused a small delay in the boot process. That didn't happen on a fresh install but it happened every time after installing all the drivers. This has now been fixed.

    Fixed WLAN Connection not establishing automatically upon reboot:

    One of my biggest gripes with Redstone 4 was that 80% of the time, after a reboot, I would have to connect manually to my wireless network even though I have checked the Automatically connect checkbox. This has now been fixed and you get connected to the wireless network immediately

    Overall OS Snapiness:

    The entire OS feels snappier, installing/opening programs, navigating through the Settings UI, etc.

    Updated Notepad:

    [​IMG]

    Dark Theme:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Do those ISOs include W10 Enterprise?
     
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    nope, only Home and Pro
     
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    I'm already shaking my head at the amount of tweaks I need to redo and do for the new stuff as well.
     
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    this build's snapiness is insane! its like a whole new Windows.

    I will upload the de-bloated ISO soon so stand by
     
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    Looking forward with your excellent bloatware free version.. Thanks in advance..
     
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    Uploading ISO now

    A little glimpse at the Windows 10 Dark Mode:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't have the time honestly to de-bloat both editions now so I am uploading the standard all Edition ISO now which should be uploaded within the next 20 mins.

    Don't worry you aren't missing out much since the MSMG Toolkit failed to properly remove Windows Defender and Cortana so just stick to the basics by turning off Cortana from the settings or by using O&O ShutUp10 then use CCleaner Portable to get rid of the built in Windows 10 Apps that cannot be removed the normal way
     
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    I'll follow your guide anyways.. ^_^
     
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    Does the de-bloated edition still have the Windows app store?
     
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    Only the Windows Store, Xbox, and Sticky Notes.

    Xbox is needed whether use the Xbox app or not for the proper functionality of the Windows 10 Game Mode
     
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    OK, cool. Believe it or not, I have a few Windows Store apps that I actually use so I wouldn't want to miss out on those.
     
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    yeah me too including Age of Empires so I need the store. Also, my MSI Jokebook has to have Nahimic installed from the Windows Crapstore otherwise the sound is horrible.
     
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    About time you re-run your benchmarks.

    Have you a newer CBR-15 benchmark than this one (run on Wincrap X RS4) you can compare with?
    [​IMG]
     
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    I have not the time right now :rolleyes:
     
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    What is the point put in a lot works if you find awful bench results afterwards? o_O + hided new telemetry [​IMG]
     
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    Because Redstone 4 was the worst build of Windows 10 ever. Give me anything else and I'm happy to ditch that crap OS. Now this is way snappier! Or maybe it's teh plac3bo 3ff3ct? :rolleyes: :eek:
     
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    Exactly... And not teh First time :D You see? :p
     
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    Usually W10 Insiders OS performs fast than Public release. I hoped on it and I'm disappointed. Usually same things will follow on RS5.
    I'm excited about Notepad getting some good features but I already switched to VSCode and Notepad++.
    Ultramale Please let us know how stable it for daily usage once it is released to Public.
     
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    Skunks do not change their stripes. Expecting RS5 to be an improvement after every release of Windows 10 has been a downgrade is pretty silly.

    [​IMG]
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    Hmmm.... Every PC I installed the redstone 4 connected automatically to Wifi AP automagically like Linux does. Maybe I encountered the same issue when I have a MiFi and WiFi router having 4 AP's confused Win 10.
    As for snappiness and boot delay let's hope for the best it stays that way!
    One more thing, v1803 and above, rarely needs fresh install and in-place upgrade gives 95% clean install like experience on most devices. This tip might come in handy if MSFT releases new ISO to fix BSODs or blocking bugs.
     
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    Rarely needs... I won’t upgrade over old OS. Period!
     
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    Hahaa. I noticed no difference in performance after upgrading from v1703 to v1803. I even Clean installed everything to make sure of it.
    Anyway I'm holding out to v1803 for long as I can. I rarely get amped up about W10 features. Not going to waste time for couple of features that can be integrated to older releases easily.
    Well upgrade from redstone to redstone should theoretically work w/o any issues. I got tired of the stone and need some other code name. Even had enough of Spring and Fall of the Empire editions.
     
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    What version you run now of those two? And what is done of tweaks with the De-bloated Win X RS5 ISO ? Tested if eg Eset or other software etc O&O Shutup works properly with the build? What with bugs? Found some?

    Other changes in the build vs. this? What’s New in Windows 10’s October 2018 Update Howtogeek.com

    What a improvements[​IMG] Is this OS meant most for kids?o_O
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    This nonsense makes it not worth messing with to me.

    LOL. And, I want no emojis, not more of them. I am unable to relate to or identify with this being considered a feature or how it can be viewed as something important.
     
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    Well, you can find out if it is a placebo effect or real with some simple testing.

    Can you please run wPrime 32M, wPrime 1024M, Cinebench R11.5 and/or Cinebench R15? (All four would be great, but if you only have time for one, do Cinebench R15.) If you can include examples from your previous OS for comparison that would be nice as well.
     
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    With my 8086K running at 4.4 GHz, my Cinebench scores were in the neighborhood of 1409-1415. Using RS5, I'm around 1429-1435. Maybe that's margin of error, but it seems there's a small improvement to be had here.
     
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    +rep. Then we will have to wait for @Ultra Male's Cinebench R15 run :D
     
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    What's the emoji under Kangaroo? A double light saber or double ..?
    Doesn't feel like a Major upgrade anyways.
     
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    It's the underside of a skateboard. xD
     
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    I've been running a debloated RedStone 3 release for a while now and just don't have the need or energy to want to upgrade to RedStone 5. I will probably take a plunge at the next major release but until then 3 has been service me just fine and it's snappiness is still way better than any stock version of windows 10 I've had.
     
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    Thanks. I won't say further what I thought of that emoji earlier!
     
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    I know what you thought... but I won't say it either ! :D :rolleyes:

    well.. an advice from someone who is nearly complete 3 years with formatting my OS for any cumulative update just update it normally after 2~3 days but for any major OS releases.. wait for at least 1 week or wait a cumulative update for the major release ;)

    That is how I prevent issues & keeping the record of never formatting my laptop since I buyed it :D
     
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    Yeah, Can you see the big difference? Time for Cinebench R15. Need some more test results :)
    Bruh, you remember we talked about InSpectre tool? Work even in Redtrash 5 :cool: See, I have even been your personal GP today, bruh! What is this worth? :eek: @Mr. Fox Amazing... The Redmond Morons let us continue have normal Cpu performance with this new piece of pastel colored tile junk. And InSpectre tool works :D The tests is done without any special tweaks. Almost right out of the box.

    INSPECTRE tool work as intended.
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    Stock clocks (43X)
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    Most likely margin of errors. But I mean I can see 1-2w lower wattage from the wall when running Cinebench R15 (Using RS5).
     
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    Broken trash, made by goofy tree-huggers, for goofy tree-huggers, LOL.
     
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    Phoenix: You have to be careful if the issue occurs over and over again. It is more likely a faulty battery or AC adapter. In my case, I had issues with brightness on battery mode, replacing it solved the issue! More hardware failures are skipped by Win 10 by masking the errors. Even BSOD are more forgiving on latest version which really makes us feel OS is good but it is not.
     
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    dude. just stop quoting me or interacting with me and save your bright ideas for yourself.

    this is a well known RS5 bug not my battery or bla bla bla. you're on my ignore list for a reason
     
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    Damn..
    Just gave you a heads up because Aptio BIOS that most use share some codebase.
    Forget it! I'm not saying anything!
     
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    It seems i have lost the brightness control when clicking on the battery icon after the update, do you guys know how to fix it?
     
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    Nope. The only way now is to use the quick action in action centre.

    upload_2018-10-4_9-41-35.png
    @Papusan @Mr. Fox Just did a quick test. Results are within margin of error. I usually get around 745.

    That brightness thing never happens to me though. Nothing has changed for me and I've found one bug so far - Task Manager CPU usage information is completely broken
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    But then again CPU reporting from Task Manager was never accurate was it.


    Boot times from power button to desktop:
    Fastboot - 1803: 15s 1809: 11.5
    Normal - 1803: 20s 1809: 17s

    I guess fastboot is much more optimized now.

    As for other aspects of the OS, things feel faster; some things might be placebo, but for sure Edge, task manager, file explorer and the startup are definitely faster.
     
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    Oh so they decided to change that brightness setting which was handy but still stick with the horrible mixture of fluent design and w7 UI...morons.
    The dark theme for File Explorer is horrible imho, they've done a poor job.

    The brightness 50% bug happened also to me but even with the fix using NSudo the brightness sometimes goes up to 100% instead of sticking to the user setting upon boot.
     
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