The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Will Smart Defrag run when your laptop is off?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Infinius, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. Infinius

    Infinius Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Title says it all.
     
  2. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    5,868
    Messages:
    5,889
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    No it will not. You can opt for boot time defragging for system files.
     
  3. Infinius

    Infinius Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    That's unfortunate. I was always under the impression that the defragger that came with Windows did that.
     
  4. dannyp32

    dannyp32 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    33
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    When the computer is powered down, none of the software is running.
     
  5. Infinius

    Infinius Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    If I put the computer to sleep, would the software still run?
     
  6. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,515
    Messages:
    2,382
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    66
    No. It will not run in hibernate either.
     
  7. Infinius

    Infinius Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    So basically I'd have to leave my computer on to do a scheduled defrag? Is there anyway I could make that process more energy efficient?
     
  8. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    11,461
    Messages:
    16,824
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    466
    It will run in the background when your using the computer, thats why its smart :D

    So just use the computer is all you have to do.

    Unless you only on for very short periods of time so that it never gets a chance to run you should be fine. If that is the case once in a blue moon just manually run a defragmenting program.

    You should not have to worry about much fragmentation unless your doing a lot of adding/deleting of files on a regular basis.
     
  9. Infinius

    Infinius Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I always thought that you shouldn't be doing anything while a computer was defraging.
     
  10. JOSEA

    JOSEA NONE

    Reputations:
    4,013
    Messages:
    3,521
    Likes Received:
    170
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Me too, that is why the Viking is a legend here!


    Defragment Windows 7 - How to defragment a Windows 7 computer
    If you already know this info glance at page 5 in the above link, PDF (pretty darn funny)
     
  11. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

    Reputations:
    1,940
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Those were the days of XP's defragmenter. Windows 7 defrag and the various "smart" defrag programs now run in the background and do more than just defrag. SmartDefrag will also move files to different parts on the platter depending on their usage.
     
  12. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    You can set your PC to turn on for scheduled events if in sleep mode, so if you set your computer to sleep at night, it can wake to defrag.

    But really, you shouldn't need to do anything. Defragmentation takes place when Windows sees fit, and it's not really a problem.
     
  13. KLF

    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    2,844
    Messages:
    2,736
    Likes Received:
    896
    Trophy Points:
    131
    That works on a desktop but a laptop may well overheat if it's closed in a bag and then it turns on and starts to defrag itself.
     
  14. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Good point. Possible damage too if it's bouncing around. I guess I usually turn my laptop off when I'm traveling with it, or manually hibernate so it will never happen.
     
  15. Feral1

    Feral1 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    The simple solution is to upgrade to a SSD and never defrag again. It is all done in the background.
     
  16. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    801
    Messages:
    3,881
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    You wanna be a tad more specific about that?
     
  17. KLF

    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    2,844
    Messages:
    2,736
    Likes Received:
    896
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Specific: Disk Defragmentation ? Background and Engineering the Windows 7 Improvements - Engineering Windows 7 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

    Little less specific:
    How Windows 7 handles disk defragmenting

     
  18. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    801
    Messages:
    3,881
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    noooo, specific about how an SSD does it in the background......
     
  19. davidfor

    davidfor Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    65
    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The scheduler has an option to not run the task if the laptop is running on battery. It can also stop the task if the AC is unplugged.
     
  20. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

    Reputations:
    1,940
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    SSD's do not need defragmentation. What they do in the background is TRIM and Garbage Collection.
     
  21. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    801
    Messages:
    3,881
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Which is a point that needs to be made over and over again.

    A lot of people think that trim/garbage collection on SSDs are the same thing as defragmentation.

    Not. Seriously Not.
     
  22. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

    Reputations:
    2,674
    Messages:
    6,039
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    On SOME machines it is possible for a scheduled task, like a defrag, to cause the machine to come out of hibernation. These machines have a BIOS/Real Time Clock option that Task Scheduler can utilize for this purpose.

    Gary
     
  23. raxco

    raxco Newbie

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    No defrag will run when your laptop is off but some do offer boot-time defrag, to defrag files that would otherwise never be defragged, reducing your start up time by 30%.

    You also have defrag utilities that prevent file fragmentation AND use an intelligent filing strategy to reduce the time spent on subsequent defrags, also reducing energy consumption.

    To respond to your question about SSDs, you cannot "defrag" an SSD but you can optimize SSD performance by consolidating free space on an SSD.

    Our PerfectDisk defrag product does all of the above.

    -Lauren

    @RaxcoSoftware