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    Which Ad block?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Phase, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    so i used to be super against ad block type programs being a youtube partner and what not, but lately video ads and more ads are driving me insane, not to mention automatic adware popping up.

    then i saw a linus tech tip video on ad block programs and it pretty much said it helps with data usage and webpages load faster.

    i downloaded the basic ad block extension, but i saw a pro, plus, and few other versions. what are the differences and what is the best one? do you guys use any ad block programs?

    the only thing i saw online complaining about these extensions was a slight cpu usage increase, and a lot of memory being used. i have an i7 and 32gb of ram, so it isn't a factor for me ha.
     
  2. andy_mk3

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    uBlock Origin for me.
     
  3. SL2

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    I prefer Adguard.
     
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    uBlock for me.

    John.
     
  5. Porter

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    I've been using adblock plus with chrome for a while now and have no complaints. I did some research when I was trying to decide the same thing and whatever I found at the time led me to use plus. I honestly don't remember what the differences were anymore.
     
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  6. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    ive seen a lot of people say ublock. what makes it so special compared to the main ones?
     
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    Adblocker isn't going to stop those popups or ads...you should do a PC hosts edit file that will kill those far faster then any adblocker can do. And if you haven't read advertiser and those adblocker software are making agreements to allow their ads to come through even though you have the adblocker on. So by using adblocker your allowing those advertiser to send ads right into your computer. That is what I use and don't have to worry about whom is adblocker allowing to send me ads.
     
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  9. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    still way less than before lol
     
  10. TreeTops Ranch

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    NoScript is another one that works well with Firefox.
     
  11. ethon21

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    Noscript is great and the biggest reason why I keep Firefox instead of switching to Chrome. I use it in conjunction with adblock pro.

    If you do decide to try noscript, there's a learning period where you have to figure out how websites serve up there own content and ads. Give yourself a few days to hit all of your common web destinations and allow them and after that you'll be sailing along smoothly. It does take some time though, so you'll want to mentally prepare yourself. This is unlike adblock pro, which comes pre-configured.

    Haven't looked much into other popup blockers. Sounds like ublock is quite popular, so I'm going to check that out.
     
  12. StormJumper

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    ok...just keep hitting the koolaid ok....it will soon go away...

    Not from my experience it made it worse then it helped...how many scripts are you going to read to make sure your permitting the right on to run to properly work? I like to surf and enjoy the Net not figure oh will this work or not on this site. That's way to much work just to fire up the Browser to get to the internet. That PC "hosts" edit does it already and I don't have to worry oh will this ad or popup show up. It kills them and the site that sends them already and I don't have to loose sleep over it to set this and that script to run. Plus it works for either IE, FF, Chrome, Opera it's alot better and fits for all the Browser as they require Windows hosts file to properly direct the links and doing all this ahead of time before the Browser even starts is far easier and less complicate to do. I been using it since 2007 if I recall right and done this for my family and their computers and they wonder why now it was better then before when they got all these popups and ads coming in the Browser. Any new Popus, Ads site I add them to the hosts file and they are gone-once you get the hang of using it and editing it you be surprised "why" didn't I know this before.
     
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    I find it a little unusual that you don't mind manually compiling a hosts file, but are resistant to doing the same thing with noscript. After you get past the initial setup (which takes time in both cases), the end result is largely the same, little tweaks here and there, but that's it. I think you're correct to point out that the hosts file works in any browser and that's a big plus. The part that I enjoy about noscript is that everything is blocked by default and I don't have to manually lookup the domain, the information is already there for me.

    Unrelated to the above: thanks for the suggestions about ublock origin, it looks great.
     
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    Noscript doesn't work compared to the hosts file I don't have to "micro-manage" constantly that is way. I like to open my Browser and get working not have to go oh what do I need to micro manage to make sure my browser works ok. That's will ruin any Browser usage anytime of the day especially the un-savvy computer users. And my hosts edit already blocks the sites when the computer starts up so I don't have to worry about oh did my NoScript worked today because they did some small script changes. My hosts edit blocks the sites not the script and that prevent the script from even loading to begin with. That's what people forget if the site can't load the script is stopped from loading in the first place.
     
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    But that is not what I want to do. I don't want to block the site(s), only want to block the scripts, which are usually the ads. Isn't that what most people want to do? Just look at the title of this thread.
     
  16. ratinox

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    Advertising, regardless of the form, is almost always third party. uBlock Origin (and uBlock; there's some Internet drama regarding the split) in implicit deny mode blocks all third party content. All of it.

    With uBlock Origin, one can permit specific third party sources on a site. For example, I can permit ttgtmedia.com on forum.notebookreview.com. Content from ttgtmedia.com will appear on the NBR forums but nowhere else.

    uBlock Origin can use many of the common adblock filter lists such as EasyList. This is useful when you want to permit useful content from specific third parties while blocking advertising and tracking from those same third parties. (I'm looking at you, Twitter and Facebook).
     
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    No micromanagement is required outside of the initial setup. Most people (especially the non-tech savvy) tend to visit the same set of websites over a monthly period, so you're good to go.

    Noscript blocks any scripts from a particular domain (you blacklist by domain, the same as a hosts file), so a small script change makes no difference nor requires any changes on your part. The only change one might have to worry about is if an ad is served from a new domain, but this would also require a change in your hosts file (to specify the new domain), since the hosts file redirects those domains to a null request.

    It's worth noting too that you can actually toggle noscript into a default allow-all mode and then simply blacklist domains that you wish to block. This is functionally the same as a hosts file. Again though, I acknowledge that it doesn't work for all browsers, which can potentially be a big deal.

    Back to the main subject:

    I full agree with ratinox above: advertising is normally always third party, so it's fairly easy for an adblocker to work well. The best value for your time will be to install ublock origin, use the default filters, and then allow ads as you feel appropriate. For example, where you want to support the website or content owner.
     
  18. miro_gt

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    uBlock

    heck yes, I should have found this earlier.

    as I'm typing this over firefox, blocked connections: 14
    :D :D :D
     
  19. TANWare

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    Just installed uBlock to FF and have to say I like it.
     
  20. StormJumper

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    My edit stops all that and is far better then the "less then before" I get none.
     
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    A PC hosts edit would kill that ad before you saw it.
     
  22. ratinox

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    Are we back on this? uBlock Origin set to deny 3rd party content does not block advertising elements or advertising domains or malware[1]. It blocks advertising and malware behavior. If the content does not originate from, say, www.frontrowsports.eu when you visit this site then uBlock Origin will not allow the browser to load that content unless you explicitly permit it.

    [1] With the caveat that uBlock Origin can supplement its filtering capabilities with a variety of third party adware, spyware and malware domain lists.
     
  23. ratinox

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    Like I've been saying, this is exactly what uBlock Origin does, and does it more effectively than AdBlock/Plus/Edge because it blocks advertising and malware behavior.
     
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    I've put ublock to my phone as well over FireFox, but I cant seem to put it on Chrome browser. It's an android phone.

    anybody tried that already ?
     
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    I use "AdBlock" (the first one on a google search for google chrome) and it suits all of my needs. It also features a really straightforward whitelist.
     
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    Both of these post is so amazing they are doing far to much work when a PC hosts edit does more then a adblock can ever do. All I do is edit the PC hosts file and never have to see the spam ads from the site even if I am on the same site. And my caveat I can do and manage the site in the PC hosts edit without needing 3rd party software to do it. Also those adblock will eventually cave to ads company and will start to send ads right straight through the adblocker. A little PC savvy goes along way to educate one about their choices and how to block to ad site.
     
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    Ever get tired of repeating the same schtick over and over again?
     
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    Well I am just as impressed with the PC hosts edit as it is always "ON" and I don't have to do much other then edit to add the new hosts file and save and just keep right on using the Browser without hiccups except the banner-ads-popups are gone and dead and any attempts to open another browser comes up dead white "NULL" screen saying can't load. And this permits me to kill off the offending site faster if it tries to open.
     
  30. ratinox

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    Which entails:

    * Copy C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts to a non-protected directory (like Desktop).
    * Open an editor.
    * Add a 127.0.0.1 entry for the host name that you want to block.
    * Save.
    * Copy back to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts.
    * Repeat every time a new third party advertisement appears on a web site you visit.

    As opposed to this with uBlock Origin set to 3rd party deny:

    * Nothing. All third party advertising is blocked by default.

    You can be impressed by whatever you want. That's your prerogative. If you want others to be impressed, well, that's going to be rough since explicit deny all is always more effective than blacklists at blocking unwanted content and access.
     
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    Well to report back on my lastest host edit I noticed it also list in there Windows telemetry blocking those sites as well.
     
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    I do too but on firefox and always found it fine on several machines running 7 and 8.1.
     
  33. StormJumper

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    Guess people never read my other postings to read what I actually wrote for Instructions. This user is a lost cause...I don't try to impress- what I do is to give others knowledge to know their options and it's up to them to choose to listen or not.