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    Vista Vs XP

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Phillip, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    I am hearing a lot about Vista and I was woundering when/if Vista will be available for laptops.
    If Vista does become available, is it worth waiting for to buy my next laptop or should I just get one with XP pro/media ed.?
    I don't know much about Vista so if anyone could enlighten me about it I would very much appreciate it.
     
  2. cgil

    cgil Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm almost positive from reading in this forum somewhere that windows vista will be able to run on any computer as long as it has a mid-range graphics card for the 3D interface. Anyone feel free to correct me as I'm probably missing something.
     
  3. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    It's good to know that it will run on any computer with a good graphics card but what I really want to know is what is new, better, or worse about Vista.
     
  4. cgil

    cgil Notebook Enthusiast

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    I guess I really don't know much about it, microsoft is kind of vague on that. But it's supposed to have a cool 3D interface :)
     
  5. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Well they have, according to Microsoft, rewritten the kernal, there are fancy graphics, search feature everywhere, and SUPPOSEDLY the "most secure Windows ever". For reference, XP was also supposed to be the most secure Windows ever. It will undoubtly be an improvement, but as long as Microsoft continues to support legacy software, it will not be secure. The biggest issue with Windows XP is the inability to realistically run as limited user, hopefully Vista fixes that. I would say wait until they have a chance to start to work out bugs.
     
  6. SJ393

    SJ393 Notebook Geek

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    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1931913,00.asp

    article on vista by extremetech, if want to you can read it.

    I wouldn't worry about vista yet, it will likely be really ready in about 1.5 yrs time when they have fix all the bugs, well, unless it's bug free out the door......unless you like to be the lab rats of ms
     
  7. Tiger-Heli

    Tiger-Heli Notebook Evangelist

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    So was NT and 98 and 95. (I don't think they worried about it in the 3.1 days - not that they really do now.)
    Nope, they'll just make you BUY Vista Second Edition or Vista SP2 to get rid of the bugs they didn't squash before they releasd Vista.

    Ummmmn, unless they save that version for the "Son of Vista" OS which will be "the most secure and stable windows ever."

    Seeing the pattern yet?
     
  8. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    Yeah I havent really messed around with it, but I will most likely wait for sp1 to replcae my xp partition. until then Ill use xp on the primary partition and vista for fun and learning.
     
  9. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    ucb, Stick primarily with XP as your OS. You can dual boot and play around with Vista Beta or even the real thing. I wouldn't trust Vista yet and really there's no rush.
     
  10. wobble987

    wobble987 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The thing is; i think vista is a 32->64 bit transition OS; the 64-bit is A LOT better than 32-bit, but the compatibelity and driver is very poor this time around; so its kind of hard to fully exploit vista potential, i think it maybe about a year time when vista is fully ready; i think i'm gonna buy my new laptop w/ vista at around the middle of next year though.
     
  11. SJ393

    SJ393 Notebook Geek

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    would you want to trust a banker at age 50 yrs old with all your fortunes
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    college kid who is doing co-op

    vista now, is that kid.

    At least wait 'til he graduates before you are even considering hiring him, will you.
     
  12. Sykotic

    Sykotic Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree not to worry until at least its released. Right now its in beta tests to get rid of the bugs. No software is completely bug free. A developers job no matter what software it is, is to release the software with as few bugs as possible.
     
  13. Kiwibru

    Kiwibru Notebook Geek

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    Very rough that Beta 2. Lots of issues and I am not convinced yet that it is really going to be anything really great. The security shield that sits on top of any user action is very annoying, always popping up in your face asking you if you really want to do the action you initiated. Some drivers have not been ported over, namely wireless and bluetooth. If you like experimenting and test drive stuff it is ok but as someone pointed out above it appears to be a transition O.S. as the Beta 2 disk set contains both 32bit and 64 bit versions. Kind of like warmed over XP with some twists! Aero is nice but takes at least 128mb of dedicated video RAM to even run and when it does the processes are somewhat "slow". Parts of it are fast, some others slow. Opening up Control Panel for instance is very slow. Ho-hum, it is like a painting in progress...they just want lots of us to torture it and report back to the mother ship. That can be good, that can be bad...depends upon who you are and what you like to do with beta stuff.
     
  14. Bhatman

    Bhatman Notebook Evangelist

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    Stick with XP for now, since its pretty stable now and works. I myself will not switch to Vista since its specs are so intensive, I dont need any crazy interface and graphics.I have friends who are still on Win95/98 and thats OLD.
     
  15. 31337

    31337 Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Stick with XP unless u got another laptop to play with ;)
    i got it on my other laptop ferrari 3200 with vista build 5456 and it's running smooth and i love it
     
  16. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    For all those saying Vista is a transition OS, you have no idea how right you are! The original plan was for Vista to be the bridge between XP and Blackthorn. It turned into the current behemoth we see now, and will likely only last about 1-2 years before the next Windows rolls out.

    If you want evidence that MS has become too big, Vista is most definitely it. I mean it was supposed to be released in 2003! By the time it actually releases it will be nearly 4 years late!
     
  17. digital8doug

    digital8doug Notebook Consultant

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    I am running updated Vista Ultimate on Asus Z71V I built up.
    I did not have an upgrade option avail on my DVD from a recent download of Ultimate beta 2 (Bld 5384) (It was Disabled on both 32 & 64 bit versions!)

    If you are using Intel CPU & WiFi card it works fine, use until Jun 07 FREE!!!
    Update driver online search/install is very quick & easy. NO existing problems.
    I had to pull my Atheros AR5006X Wifi which has NO Support yet, reinstall 2915.

    Beware though, my DT AMD (FX-55, or 60x2) systems w 4GB DDR400 (or 2gb @ DDR ~470 CR 1T) & 256 MB GPU install/runs vista MUCH slower than 725 CPU w/ 2 GB DDR533 & 128 MB Geforce 6600 GPU! Poor luck for AMD stuff :mad: d8d
     
  18. HomeSkillet

    HomeSkillet Notebook Evangelist

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    I surely will not be upgrading to Vista. Windows only implemented the interests of the entertainment industry and not of the consumer into the OS. I don’t want large DRM systems built into my OS and don’t want HDCP (new hardware) just to watch hi-def content. Last thing I need is a closed platform buggy system hog with a large DRM system.

    Good article explaining Vista’s attempt to end the open PC platform:
    http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/1182/what_windows_vista

    Some DRM fun:
    http://www.scruffydan.com/blog/?p=153
    http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=25124