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    Vista boots fast, then 15-20second pause on desktop before anything happens.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by joebusby, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. joebusby

    joebusby Notebook Consultant

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    Vista loads very, very quickly - I've got a decent cpu and I've rearranged the boot files.

    However, after I enter my password the instant I'm able to, then log in, it goes to my desktop.

    The only thing is, it then sits there for about 15 seconds with the only things loaded being the Speaker Control, Power Control, and Network Control (Showing a Red X until everything else starts loading).

    It's like it sits down and pauses, then does everything in an instant.
     
  2. eXtraBulleT

    eXtraBulleT Notebook Consultant

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    Could be antivirus, firewall or anything that slows your computer down.

    From my personal experience I had that when I installed Zonealarm Pro 7, it would just sit there and load something.

    Try uninstalling like I said your firewall or antivirus if you have one and see if that solves the problem.
     
  3. vaio2k7

    vaio2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    It may not be that bad, even normal perhaps. For me Vista boots fairly quick, and I also see a pause, about 10 seconds, to initialize the clock, internet connection, etc.
     
  4. phil823

    phil823 Notebook Consultant

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    Damn Start Programs are to blame for everything! but yea...my desktop does this with Zonealarm and DitDefender. it'll just hang for like 12.49 seconds
     
  5. cvx5832

    cvx5832 Notebook Evangelist

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    Have you switched any services to Manual? In my experiments with services.msc, some processes switched to Manual (instead of Automatic) actually slowed the boot/login process.

    Just throwing ideas.

    Regards,
    Paolo
     
  6. joebusby

    joebusby Notebook Consultant

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    Lots to manual that I planned to disable. Should I just disable them?

    No, no firewalls or virus scanners or anything. (PS hardware firewall so don't get excited)
     
  7. Sewje

    Sewje Notebook Geek

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    If u have UAC enabled then thats the problem.
     
  8. joebusby

    joebusby Notebook Consultant

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    Why would UAC pause the bootup of my pc for 25 (counted it this time) seconds?
     
  9. Sewje

    Sewje Notebook Geek

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    No idea, but it just does(actually its too long to write here). You got nothing to lose to try it, if its not the prob then you can re-enable it back.

    Jees if you people read up on Vista tips etc you won't have such problems.... they are plastered all over this forum!
     
  10. Nir

    Nir Notebook Enthusiast

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    u use wireless?
    if so disable it and try again
     
  11. Alexkass

    Alexkass Notebook Guru

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    the same here and here.

    i use nod32 and noticed the same "pause" (35 secs... !!!).

    i'll try to uninstall the AV and the hp security suite.

    P.S. the same "pause" happens also when the wireless is off.
     
  12. joebusby

    joebusby Notebook Consultant

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    Why would I disable wireless when that's how I recieve my net? What, disable and restart on Boot?

    I'll try UAC.
     
  13. Negz

    Negz Notebook Consultant

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    Same issues here on my G1S with Vista Ultimate. It boots really fast to the welcome screen, I type in my password and it logs in with only power, network, sound. After about 20 seconds everything else loads in about 5 seconds.

    Really annoying, would love a solution. My AV is AVG so looks like we are all using different AV programs.

    The thing is when I have a wired connection plugged in on boot then the pause is not there! So I am thinking it may be something to do with vista networking?
     
  14. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    No don't just disable them. Look and see if the "manual" ones are in a "started" state after completion of a reboot. If so, set them back to AutoStart. This meant that something in the boot process needed that service. There is no need to actually disable them. It will make ZERO difference. The only thing different about the two states is this: if set to manual, if the service is requested by some app Vista will start it up for the app while if it is set to disable Vista will refuse to start the service regardless of who or what asks for the service.

    Gary
     
  15. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Based on WHAT? UAC is not known to cause a 15-20 second pause in the boot process, unless you know something we don't know.

    Gary
     
  16. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Really? If it's too long to write here then how about a link? I have to laugh every time I see UAC blamed for something new. The next thing you know it will be discovered as the real source of global warming.

    Can you point us unenlightened people to a tweak that DIRECTLY addresses this 15-20 second pause? There are lots of tweaks out there, unfortunately many of them espoused by folks who haven't a clue what the tweak REALLY does, they were told by a friend of a guy who's sister knows the plumber of a guy who worked at Microsoft eight years ago and swears if you... There are also a lot of REALLY GOOD one out there too, trouble is how do folks tell which is which? Do we use a trusted source like Anandtech or a message that blows folks off when they ask for an explanation of a tweak being suggested?


    Oh BTW, I have UAC enabled on Vista and I can assure you I have no 15-20 second delay on bootup.

    Gary
     
  17. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I think the point of disabling the wireless was to see if it was the cause of the delay. It was not being suggested as a permanent fix, only as a trouble shooting technique.

    Gary
     
  18. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    That tells the tale, at least for your scenario. The issue seems to be the wireless connection is taking a while to re-establish itself. I have wireless as well on Vista and don't see this delay at all so I don't think its a Vista issue per se. But I do think it is a wireless issue. If you manually disconnect from the wireless connection and reconnect it, how long does it take to reconnect?

    Also are you, by any chance, switching wireless connections during this reboot? By that I mean, are you shutting down while connected to one wireless router and then rebooting in the vicinity of a DIFFERENT wireless router? If so, Vista is looking for the old one first, waiting till it cannot find it and then trying a new one. I set up my wireless router in my office to be identical to the one at home just so I could avoid this. But I did this long ago, under XP days, so I don't know the actual timing of this process under Vista.

    Gary
     
  19. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    I have run into this several times and it has been the same thing each time--the Vista sidebar is loaded up with several gadgets that access the internet. Weather, stock quotes, newsfeeds, etc.

    When Vista sidebar loads, it needs to load itself, then load each gadget and each gadget needs to go out on the net and grab the newsfeed it needs. They all do this at the same time and then different servers have different response times. Sometimes, only one gadget slows everything else down, but it is usually a combination of them all.

    Try removing all the gadgets that need to access info remotely and reboot and see if that improves things.

    Now, is this a bad thing? Not if you want those gadgets, but if you cannot wait those 20 seconds than consider other gadgets or turn off the sidebar at boot up (load it manually)
     
  20. cvx5832

    cvx5832 Notebook Evangelist

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    For shiggles, make sure the following are set to automatic and see how you fare. You can start switching them back to manual to isolate which one it is that's causing the slow-down.

    • Network Connections
    • Shell Hardware Detection
    • Bluetooth Support (if applicable)

    On both Vista and XP machines at work and home, it seems the OS is trying to wait for the service to respond before starting the service anyway, and the pause is the timeout period.

    Good Luck.

    Regards,
    Paolo
     
  21. knightingmagic

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    That's some precise timing you've got there :D
     
  22. joebusby

    joebusby Notebook Consultant

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    All are on auto already :-/.
     
  23. datalife

    datalife Notebook Enthusiast

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    ...........

    :laugh:
     
  24. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    Under Vista more programs and processes seem to get started via the TASKMGR than via the STARTUP. I would look there.
     
  25. alexkolb1

    alexkolb1 Notebook Consultant

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    I got the same problem, it loads up then hangs there for about 10 seconds, but when the network cable is in, it loads up instantly. It is annoying can't it just not look for network when there is no cable attached?
    I guess modern network adapters can't live without an ip address, in XP disabling adapter helped in vista it seems it doesn't.

    UPDATE:
    Ok found a fix, disable "Worstation" service. However, internet will still work, only networked shared computers and printers won't.
     
  26. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Try disabling TMM as it may be seeking an external monitor. That is either my first or second tweak in my article below. All of the tweaks are proven though. Many improve your startup and shutdown.
     
  27. lua

    lua Notebook Consultant

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    if you go to control panel > system & maintenance > performance information & tools > advanced tools, it will highlight your system's startup performance issue (if any) to you.

    in my case, the culprits are (a) kaspersky internet security & (b) vaio event service module, both of which i couldn't do without ... damn.
     
  28. Negz

    Negz Notebook Consultant

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    Well I solved my problem.

    Summary:

    Vista shows desktop after logging in, then pauses for 20 or so seconds then continues loading rest of startup programs. Does not do this when wired network is active.

    Solution:

    I found disabling the workstation service fixed this but this solution was not ideal because I lost access to network shares. So I experimented with the services that depend on the workstation service and found the one that was causing the problem. Disabling the service named "Computer Browser" in services.msc solved the problem for me while letting me still access network shares. Turns out it tries to update the list of network resources but doesnt allow anything else to load in the meantime till it times out. Hope this helps!
     
  29. Alexkass

    Alexkass Notebook Guru

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    i've found a solution :D :)

    the problem was with the workstation service (as another member noticed), but if you stop this service you have no wlan.

    so i installed VMware player 2.0 (which generates a fake ethernet connection) and the delay is gone ;)