Tried Opera Browser. Never going back to Firefox.

No memory leaks.

Very light on system resources.

Lots of built-in functionality with respect to Firefox and multiple add-on enhancements.

Hasn't crashed.


Don't get me wrong - Firefox is a decent browser, but don't be afraid to try Opera. I highly recommend it. Sure it takes time to get used to but in the end it isn't all that bad.

 

Opera is a nice browser. With a usable AdBlockPlus add-on style facility it would be superb. I have it available most of the time myself.

 

Will someone please convince Firefox and Opera to get rid of their respective broken image icon and image alt text that display within image place holders while a page is loading!!!!!!!!! Please!! With all of IE's faults through the ages they at least long ago got rid of that ugly crap.

[Walks away grumbling to himself....]

 

How is Opera vs. Firefox in terms of security?

 

Tried Opera Browser. Never going back to Firefox.

That's nice dear, but never say never. I'm familiar with, and use, both. However, I prefer Firefox. Diff'rent strokes and all, I guess

 

My thoughts exactly when I first tried it a few months ago. I was a Firefox fanboy for the longest time, but haven't looked back myself. I haven't really found a reason to.

But like someone already said, to each his own.

Regards,
Paolo

 

I think both browsers are secure. Opera is more secure out of the box, but I consider firefox more secure with add-ons. Regardless, both are great browsers.

 

extract of offical change log of 9.5 beta (which currently had heap problems with memory leaks, bombing out vista/xp/linux left and right)
"Changes since Opera 9.23
Display and Scripting
Rendering Engine

* Fixed numerous stability issues
* Plugged numerous memory leaks ...."

Opera is overall an excellent browser, and to each his/her own as stated by many posts above. I do use it from time to time, liking its speed, smooth page scrolling ..... but "blind" acceptance (downplaying some shortcomings) is always a bit dangerous, my 2 cents

cheers ...

 

official changelog - it would be indeed an impressive 9.5 when it will be completed
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w950a1.html

cheers ...

 

Opera is great and keeps improving. Meanwhile Firefox is getting bloated and getting more vulnerable to attacks.

 

it is being implemented in ff3

cheers ...

 

that the way it should be for any browsers that want to survive in a long run

interesting, i must be missing something big.
the test on latest Minefield and Opera (9.5 beta) "on the way to keep improving" builds showed Minefield (build 2007121705) consistantly running at 60MB with multi tabs, and Opera (9.5 snapshot 9694) blew up within 20 minutes of usage, racing toward 200MB

as in above, just make sure that u stay away from this 9.5 beta until it finishes, and until Opera introduces the next security update/upgrade of current "stable" 9.24 - just hope that it stays secure until then
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=197330

and thanks to mozilla community to make opera the next best secure browser
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=197330&page=3
(post#24)

cheers ...

 

The memory leaks in Opera are true. I've seen it using RAM as high as 350MB! While FF3 is using 43MB right now, with 3 tabs open. Haven't tested the newest Opera build though!

 

I've had Opera use 364,500 KB of memory before - definitely memory leak problems. That's the latest official release (9.24) - haven't tried the beta ever since Minefield (Firefox 3 alpha) allowed a trojan in (should've known with that codename...). I can recall both Firefox and Opera causing large slowdowns when I had 512 MB of RAM and XP - pulled up Task Manager and they were using 300 MB+ of RAM. With adequate memory, however, Opera performs admirably.

 

Just one minor point here. Using lots of memory is not the same thing as a memory leak.
Both Firefox and Opera (and IE) are very capable of using several hundred MB of memory.
That doesn't necessarily mean they're leaking memory. (or at least leaking that much memory)

Virtually all software has some amount of memory leaks. But usually, it's not enough to be noticeable.

Getting back on topic, Opera is a great browser. When looking at "core" browsers, with no add-ons, it's probably my favorite. But it doesn't have Firefox's add-ons, so I normally use Firefox, simply because I don't want to do without my addons.

 

I currently have a really slow pc while waiting for my laptop (xmas) its has 852mhz and 256mb ram and i have found opera to be the fastest browser and it just works, i tried firefox and it slowed my computer down, at least with opera i can also play music in the background

 

It's been years since I've ditched FireFox and turned to Opera. Opera was not a freeware back then. Haven't looked back since. Opera 9.5, when it is released, will wipe floors with FF 3.0 or whatever. Although, I have to admit, they (Opera) have been a bit slow for the last month or so with their builds.

 

i like firefox for its addons, opera as a core light browser is alright.

as for firefox being more vunerable blah blah, hackers do target the most popular and common browser, however IE is the worst browser ever. imo

Firefox ftw

 

Ok I took the OP's advice an tried Opera. For me, the latest build of Opera is indeed much faster than Firefox.

Well... I'm going to test Opera for a while before deciding whether I'll switch back to FF.

 

I love Opera but Firefox is still my favorite. For me, this is awesome - 2 browsers taking on IE and winning in my opinion. I hope this keeps going!

 

Well, since you asked, I like Opera because I can have in excess of 100 tabs open and still get around easily, and using less memory than Firefox with, say, 20. The navigational controls (keyboard, mouse guestures, tab scrolling, quicksearch thingy) are unrivaled.

I still break out Firefox for the extensions sometimes though. It'll be nice if they tighten it up a bit in the next release.

 

give me adblock plus for opera and I'll switch, tell then no dice

 

For the record, FF3.0 seems to fix a lot of the sluggishness of FF2.0. I'd say it feels just as fast as Opera.
(not saying you must all switch back from Opera, just pointing out that one of the more annoying things about Firefox seems to be getting fixed)

 

Cosign

ff is often slower on my computer, and with battery save mode (limited cpu), the browser often freezes, but the security is the reason why i stay with it

 

Opera already has a very capable ad-blocker. One should use a good HOST file anyways.

 

long live ie... just thought id throw that in there

 

LOL, you've never stepped out of the IE world? Kindda claustrophobic, isn't ?

 

Why bother, and no it does not block ads well at all, if it does at all. I think your referring to pop ups

When I go here I don't want to see an ad. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

and I don't with firefox

point and case right here, no google add crap, no side ads, no ads between stories. Opera does not block em.



Now I have to uninstall Opera

 

Both are good, and either way, as long as its not IE, it doesn't matter if you use FF or Opera

 

I got no ads on that webpage anyways. No Google ads, no nothing. Not even when I viewed it with IE. Like I said, get a good HOST file, that takes care of everything.

Another example which shows FF "addons" are for people who like to get spoon-fed.

EDIT - I'm uploading the print-screens.

 

Sure it does. You just need to right click the web page and select block content from the menu. Then just click the ads you don't want to see. A Google search will reveal preconfigured Opera blocked content files that do it for you if you like.



I maintain a blocked content file with less than two dozen adserver domains and it blocks the overwhelming majority of junk. Simple. Unbloated. Private. No false positives. Noone else deciding for me what I do and don't want to see. It has its plusses. And dam sure is effective.

 

There you go! No "addon", "plugin", "enhancement" or magic powder. Just a HOST file (just like updating your Anti-Virus), which blocks ads in IE, Opera, FF, Windows Live Messenger, or ANY PROGRAM THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE INTERNET (and any that doesn't ).

Here is that webpage in IE 7 -


Here is that webpage in Opera 9.5 Beta -


You can install Opera again now.

 

after you flammed me and tried to make yourself look smart I think not. I go with the work smarter not harder theory.

 

AdBlock = Firefox
ContentFilter = Opera ("ability to block content, be it images, ads, or anything else, by a URL. The downside to Opera’s content blocker is that you must train it first before it will block most ads. It doesn’t come pre-trained. Opera has no other choice").

Opera does not have AdBlock per se - it is looking to be changed in 9.5 (?)

It must be also noted that Opera jumped on the AdBlock (Content Filter) late (start of version 9.0) in the game after Firefox and IE.

And while we are on the same subject - this came from a piece of history, that in the earlier days, Opera used to play "dirty", replacing the ads from the visited sites with its own ads - thus drawing a black mark from many sites, which ended up codeing theirs sites so that they kicked out Opera browser. May be that is why the word AdBlock could bring back some nasty memory from the net for Opera. So taking the ContentFilter out of the core browser (in 9.5) and make it an extension/addon would be a smart move for Opera.

cheers ...

 

Here is the same page in IE6, no ad block, no hosts file manipulation. Just scripts turned off - my personal favorite in any browser.



Looks, well, exactly the same as with ad/content blocking in Firefox and Opera. And it loads faster because scripts are not run.

 

I used Opera but FF took over after joining NBR.

 

Yes, installing a memory leaking browser which is slower, both in browsing and in using, and is less secure, while needing so many additional softwares JUST to come on terms with another browser is way too smart.

And then installing Ad Block Plus just to take care of ads while browsing ONLY with FireFox is too, when a simple replacement of a file can do much, much more than that.

I'll work harder and take my chances, thank you.

 

Opera show ads for me. FF didn't.

 

I use both.

I too think that Opera is becoming the better browser, if not already. Not to mention I barely use FireFox addons any more, so that plus over other browsers is kind of redundant.

Every once in a while I run into a page that Opera renders completely screwed up or not at all.

 

If anyone would like an ad blocking, preconfigured url filter for Opera one can be found here:

http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/

He seems to maintain pretty much monthly updates. It cleaned up MLB Trade Rumors too.

 

post#34 - pls!

Opera does not have AdBlock, it has ContentFilter and this must be trained to learn to behave. I hope that Opera GURU users expand my personal thread in how to improve safe browsing (or create their own) and share their expertise (like Tranquility above) instead of telling people off for (excuse meeee) having the nerve not to use Opera

Opera 9.5 is working (lots of Opera users r crossing their fingers) to implement "AdBlock" OUTSIDE the core browser, since in the end, the ContentFilter is a kinda copycat of FF and IE adblock starting with Opera 9.0, and only happened after lots of core Opera users (serious browser users) bombarded Opera with the request.

i wish u stop playing this "memory leaking browser" card - it is a bit old, dont u think? I hope that 9.5 will come out fast enough to plug the memory leaks in (ur) current official version before it hit u like a ton of brick!

also "memory leak" does not translate into slow browser, as case in point of Opera.

cheers ...

 

I really don't get what all this stupid browser bashing is for. You use Opera, you use it. you use Firefox, you use it. You use IE, you use it. I really couldn't give a rats arse. Use what you like and stop making pointless threads about how "1337" the browser you use is. It's full of error and is quite redundant.

 

Agree... it's "just browsers".

Anyway I don't really favor any browser. I just go with whatever that works best for me at the moment.

 

Yes. Why the bashing? They're both good browsers that will appeal to different people for different reasons.

If you want ad-blocking, Opera *does* have that. You would have to download a list from somewhere (Rep+ to #40) if you don't want to "teach" it yourself, but that's not so terrible. I leave most ads in, but run with Flash turned off.

I don't use Firefox heavily, but I haven't seen any memory leaks myself in a long time. It does generally require more memory, but it sounds like they're working on that.

Having two good browsers is a good thing. Let's get along. There's no reason for competing browsers' fans to be enemies. (unless you use IE. Then you're part of the problem. < /angry css coder >)

 

True true, I use IE7, Opera, Safari and Maxthon (rarely). The best page renderer is Opera and works flawlessly with CNET-TV. Opera is closer to "standards" as far as browsers go. Funny how a Norwegian company can compete with the big boys and still survive and they keep improving their browser.

 

Tell that to someone who's multitasking apps and the PC freezes up when your at a crucial point of PhotoShop cause FF decides it needs 500+MB.

 

I've been using Opera for the past couple of years and I see no reason why I should switch to another browser. Although I do have firefox installed for school.

 

What are you talking about? If they really need all that memory they should just get Opera or use IE. I really don't care. Just use what you want and don't make pointless threads about it.

 

Silas Awaketh,

I notice there are not any of those blue and white error messages in the pages you loaded. Did you figure out a way to get rid of them when using a hosts file for filtering?

 

??? Just because it's using a lot of RAM doesn't make it crash.