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    The FINAL Definitive Poll

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Matt is Pro, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    This is the FINAL Definitive Poll about Vista.

    Does the community of NBR accept or reject Windows Vista as a reputable product?

    Let's find out.
     
  2. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    well,I do accept it.It works quite good on couple of my pcs.
     
  3. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    If you must use windows, Windows 7>XP SP3>Vista SP1
     
  4. dbam987

    dbam987 wicked-poster

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    Vista all the way, although I do plan to upgrade to Windows 7 upon it's official release. XP is slated for decommission as one of my virtual machines... it will be missed.
     
  5. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    W7->Vista->XP->2000->Me...etc
     
  6. xenon2k9

    xenon2k9 Notebook Evangelist

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    Vista has been good to me. Not many problems now, but I will upgrade to Windows 7 when I have the chance.
     
  7. lineS of flight

    lineS of flight Notebook Virtuoso

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    Despite all the FUD that I had been fed with, a dying HDD gave me an opportunity to install Vista (I was on XP SP3)...It has been good to me. Having said that, I will wait for a few months after the release of Win 7 and then use that - both on my primary machine and on my netbook (which I am yet to buy but, which I have determined to be from the Samsung family).
     
  8. LCM99

    LCM99 Notebook Guru

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    I haven't had any problems with it yet nor do I have any reason to complain, so "yay".
     
  9. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that Vista, after the fixes and patches, is overall great OS. In my opinion, Vista > XP.
     
  10. jedisolo

    jedisolo Notebook Deity

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    I use Vista Enterprise at work and it works pretty good. I'm still running XP SP3 on my Thinkpad, will upgrade to Windows 7 when it comes out.
     
  11. Cin'

    Cin' Anathema

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    Vista is just fine for me. :D

    Cin ;) :)
     
  12. Persnickety

    Persnickety Notebook Evangelist

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    I voted yes. Mainly because I was swayed by other people here on NBR (to choose it)
     
  13. eversman

    eversman Notebook Consultant

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    I like vista. ive been using it since a little after it was officially released, and it has run great. i've had a much better experience with vista than i've had with XP and thus, i would never even consider XP again. Vista all the way.

    As far as windows 7 goes, it shows promise. we shall see with time. just like with vista.


    ev
     
  14. FoxTrot1337

    FoxTrot1337 Notebook Deity

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    Vista has been good to me.
     
  15. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

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    Vista is working fine for me too! :D

    So that is a YAY!
     
  16. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yay for Vista over here too.
    It is far and away the most stable OS I've had the pleasure of working with - even XP SP3 occasionally flarts out for no reason in particular.
    When Vista SP2 drops, it'll just be that better.
     
  17. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Are you buddy buddy with the mods or something?

    How do you know this will be the "Final" Definitive Poll? :D
     
  18. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    See now I'm confused. Despite these early results, it's not hard to find a good number of "Vista sucks, etc" or "this company has banned Vista because it's bad."

    I just don't get it. Local schools in my hometown have moved to Vista, and love it. The control Vista gives administrators over the network is amazing. And, it just works, as compared to XP.

    Any other thoughts, guys?
     
  19. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Well, it's 58-5? I did vote for Vista anyway...
     
  20. d4nz0r

    d4nz0r Notebook Evangelist

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    Shame about Vista's bad rep.

    I love it. Been using it for about 9 months now with zero problems. Very quick on start up/shut downs/sleep after a clean install.
     
  21. gekk_gad

    gekk_gad Notebook Consultant

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    for pc's with modern specs, vista is amazing in almost every conceivable way.

    i've used vista since its RC and found it superior to windows xp in alot of areas.
    it was more of lackluster initial driver support (ahem nvidia) and such that made vista have such a bad rep.
     
  22. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Notebook Consultant

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    I run Vista x64 with 8GB RAM on my desktop & Sabayon Linux 4.1 in VM and runs smoothly. I even installed Vista x64 in BC on my MBP.
     
  23. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    actually, it even works great with older pcs. we run it on a p4 2.4ghz HT, and it works great.
    the one MAIN thing that can really make it perform bad is the hdd. getting a fast hdd is the one thing i tell everyone :) (and enough ram, but at those prices, it's not even needed to talk about that).

    same here. loved it since beta (and then it was still loved by all... lets see how win7 fares when out of beta :)).
     
  24. Imperfect1

    Imperfect1 Notebook Evangelist

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    Like Vista a lot. . . ever since I turned UAC off! But I'm still frustrated by Vista's refusal to let me perform some miscellaneous functions though. :(
     
  25. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    First: Turn it on again. If it occurs a lot, ask how you can fix that. (by showing specifically what you do so we can show how you can do it to prevent UAC popping up).

    Second: what miscellaneous functions don't work? Again,, ask how you can fix that. We can help. Or at least try to :)
     
  26. ATC

    ATC Notebook Deity

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    I like Vista too and I'd never go back to XP. I'm also running Vista on an old Dell Inspiron 8200 with P4 2.2 1GB Ram and a NVidia 4200 card and runs fine (no Aero of course).

    The bad rep comes from two things; Vista's relatively poor adoption rate in the corporate world and initial driver support and consumer frustrations that came with it also added to the bad rep.

    The company I work for has old hardware. So old that if I posted specs I would get laughed out of here. But for them XP runs great and does the job fine. If they were to migrate to Vista it would literally cost millions in training and new hardware and I think shareholders right now just don't see the value in doing that.

    Ultimately what many corporations have asked is "what does Vista do that I absolutely cannot do with XP" and the answer is nothing.

    And although we're not talking about 7 here, my fear is that in this economic downturn, most companies are under even more pressure to do with what they have so I think to a certain extent Windows 7 will also have a poor adoption rate, maybe even worse that Vista's. But at least 7 won't have the poor driver support since it shares the same driver model as Vista so hopefully it won't get that much bad rep after release.
     
  27. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Vista has been good to me on my Vaio, much better than XP ever was.
    Vista is defintely a good OS nowadays :)
     
  28. lineS of flight

    lineS of flight Notebook Virtuoso

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    Odd isn't it...as of this post over 88% of the voters find Vista good or OK...but still it continues to have a bad rep...I was looking at some Vista SP1 reviews and they continue with the Vista bashing! Vested interests you think? Or, is it the case of perception once acquired is difficult to get rid of?
     
  29. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    first impression lasts for ever, doesn't it?

    and old habits die last, or how ever that's written.

    the combination of those two makes vista a very bad rep. together with a quite bad start, of course. a lot of drivers still not done at release. espencially nvidia gpu drivers, needed on most pc's, instable.

    and the other thing about the vista capable sticker, which now is a big case against a lot of companies, how they sold hw which was "vista capable" but could barely run vista.

    the start couldn't be worse.

    and the rest is sheep behaviour. if i state in a bar "yellow is ugly" i quickly find quite some people agreeing with me. even while they like the colour, they quickly find negative cases of stuff that's yellow and follow me. sheep behaviour is very strong and very.. shameful.

    you see this a lot on these forums from the xp downgraders.. they can't tell a reason for downgrading at all. they just fear someone would diss them and they would look bad.
     
  30. martee

    martee Notebook Evangelist

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    Love Vista for over two years now and I'd never look back. On the next machine
    I wish to have Windows 7, but that doesn't mean I will drop Vista. It's great OS.
     
  31. JCMS

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    7>Vista SP2>XP SP3 > Vista =P
     
  32. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Windows 7<Vista.

    just wait till it's released, it will end up that way :)
     
  33. coolguy

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    Simple logic
    2009 (Windows 7) > 2007 (Vista) > 2001 (XP)
     
  34. kobe

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    Yay!! Vista. :) ;) :D
     
  35. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I'm glad to see that I'm not the only who actually thinks Vista is GOOD, and that it may even be better than XP. (on modern hardware, of course)
     
  36. Eric618

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    For me, XP trumps Vista. I've tried Vista several times (x86 and x64), always on modern machines. I always go back to XP x86. Currently running XP SP3 and There's not a chance in hell I'd put Vista on any of my systems. The only current downside for me is all 4gb of my RAM is not recognized. So far, 7 is looking *very* promising, but I'm expecting M$ to screw it up before release.

    IME/IMO, of course.
     
  37. RD28327

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    If Vista is so great, then why aren't businesses, schools and government agencies using it??? I've only seen it on home PCs and small businesses (1 or 2 PCs) using it. Most folks are waiting on Windows 7 if they do decide to upgrade.
     
  38. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Simple.
    Cost and time spent upgrading.

    If you have to instal an OS on a few hundred computers you won't as long as possible if the old one is "OK".
     
  39. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    when we made the switch to xp, it was a one year project in setting up the network, policies, finding out what performs well how, the ads, etc. the actual deployment itself was around a month, or two max. but restructuring all your business's needs (as for example policies) to a new os is simply huge work. and work is cost. cost isn't cheap :)

    it's the bad side from capitalism: while it pushes innovation sometimes, it just as well pushes stagnation.

    i even today see hospitals running win95 and win98. yes, the ones that save your life..

    i know that any network admin would love to install vista everywhere as it's awesome from a networking perspective (and so will win7 be, even better). but it's not for free.

    here in switzerland, the region zurich has resently switched the whole it-infrastructure. they now use/stillswitchto vista and love it.
     
  40. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    why do you care at all about win7 if you don't like vista? there's not a chance in hell that it's actually really different than vista except for some gui-funkiness. some updates here and there, nothing that couldn't be done by an ordinary windows update. everything else is following-the-sheep-herd in that it's so awesome blabla. it is vista r2, and as vista is great, so will be win7. but if you don't like one, you can't like the other. except if you lie to yourself to feel cool about hating vista.
     
  41. killeraardvark

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    Next time you feel the need to attack my opinion, don't waste your time or mine. I get it already, you are the primary Vista fanboi here. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. He didn't ask for retorts to answers to his question, especially from trolls.

    P.S. Here's some links comparing Vista to 7. When you are done, don't respond. Just know that I'm fully aware you'll have some condescending response that doesn't change my opinion one iota. Whatever benchmarks you dredge out a kangaroo's butt, keep those to yourself too, as I simply don't care what you have to say as you've proven to be nothing but biased.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3182

    http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/03/windows-7-beta-1-vs-windows-vista-vs-windows-xp

    http://hothardware.com/Articles/Windows-7-Up-Close-and-Personal/

    Here's a snippet from that one: " As our preliminary tests indicate, Windows Beta 1 does show a noticeable performance improvement over Windows <nobr style='font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%;' id='itxt_nobr_0_0'>Vista[​IMG]</nobr> SP1 especially in areas related to multimedia."

    http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/3808216/Is-Vista-vs-Windows-7-a-True-Choice.htm

    http://www.ithinkdiff.com/windows-7-build-7057-vs-vista-xp-and-older-7-builds/

    http://technologyinsanity.com/software/vista-windows-7-and-xp-because-we-all-love-excessive-gui/


    I could post more, but I got tired of trying to quell your vitriole.
     
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  43. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    Guys, please keep the personal attacks down.

    I like Vista and would choose it over XP on my machine any day. IMO it definitely does not deserve the bad press it still gets.
     
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    I think what davepermen is trying to say is this, everything that is in Windows 7 (except for the new taskbar, libraries and a few other things) is present in Vista. Windows 7 is based on Vista so if you hate Vista so much and you like Windows 7, then you are just biased against Vista, period.

    My brother disliked Vista and then he tried out the Win7 Beta. All the things he was raving about in Win 7 i had to let him know that i have that already in Vista.
     
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    Windows 7 is a mass marketed Mojave Experiment. It's Vista polished up with some new features.
     
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    First of all, I've tried Vista several times, and I've always wanted to like it. It's just always underperformed to me. I assure you, I don't like Vista based on experience, and nothing else.

    If Vista and 7 are sooo similar in the kernel, why are there so many people from ZDNet, PCmag, CNet, TomsHardware, etc. saying 7 outperforms Vista? They basing there opinions on a prettier GUI? C'mon.
     
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    I'm a system's admin for the US Army. We ARE implementing it. we are in the process of changing over. we are also dumping office 2003.



    ev
     
  48. eversman

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    Sucks that you had such a bad time with it. up until two months ago when i bought a new pc, my old laptop (single core, with only 1gb of ram, and 128 mb discrete graphics) ran vista awesome.

    Not sure what you did or how it was set up. All in the eye of the beholder i guess. it even ran well for me with a gig of ram on an ancient dell desktop with a 128 mb gpu and an intel p4.


    ev
     
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    I see what you are saying and I respect that. XP and Vista are both really awesome. 7 will blow both out of the water.
     
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    I dunno. Bad luck, maybe? Performance-wise, it never touched XP Pro, start up and shut down (especially shut-down) were painfully slow, and while it wasn't really unstable, it was never as stable as XP. I've got XP tweaked to my liking. I was never able to get Vista to match XP, in any facet.

    I'm more than happy than talking about it, and happily accept people disagreeing with me, but when the condescension flows from one of the Vista fanbase, I get annoyed and feel the need to defend myself. I don't give others grief for liking Vista, and get simply annoyed when a faceless troll likes to pick fights. I apologize to everyone else for bringing that in here. He'll be ignored from now on. :)
     
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