The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    New laptop, do i use Win10 or Thunderbird?? Fan running HIGH speed

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by bilabonic, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Hi All

    I have a few posts on here as i have just received an new (for me) i5 8250U/ 1000Gb HDD.

    I have NEVER used Win10, it took me until the end to upgrade to Win7 but i know that inside/out now.

    There seems to a lot of rubbish on there, McAfee, Mobile Plans, Cortana etc But i have the plain old Email in the bottom taskbar.

    Email for me for several years has all been done through Thunderbird, i run 4 emails seamless plus it has a great calendar/alets etc.

    How do i ditch this ?

    Also i'm concerned the fan is running at full speed when just sitting there on standby!!!

    Just opened Task Manager and there are no running apps showing?
    **EDIT** I had to select 'more' lol, just for it to actually show me what's running....It's using 23% CPU with NOTHING installed, it's padded out with crap imo/

    What am i missing her guys.??

    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2019
  2. KING19

    KING19 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    358
    Messages:
    1,169
    Likes Received:
    778
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Its probably trying to install Windows updates but since your new laptop is used i suggest you reinstall Windows before using it for safety reasons. You can use the recovery partition that HP, DELL, ASUS and etc installed in their systems that'll reset your laptop to factory settings it'll also reinstall the bloatware that came with the laptop or you can use the "Reset this pc" option that is Built in Windows 10.
     
    bilabonic likes this.
  3. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    It's so slow it's unreal, first thing i done was check fpr updates, only 4 ot 5 there tbh, did not ask if i wanted to restert now to apply them, is that a win10 thing??
    Anyway affter seeing HP this, Mcafee blah blah i turned it off, it applies a few updtes.

    But as you say it needs a ytally fresh install as it toll 10 mins to log in after only one set of non essential upgrades, they ere Mcafee .

    I'll create a USB i the morn, will it ask fpr the serial no? Or auto detect it??
    I'm gutted tbh, i expected it to be fast, simple, it just seems bloated for 'Joe Bloggs' so they can sign up to all of the rubbish...JMO.

    Thank you
     
  4. KING19

    KING19 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    358
    Messages:
    1,169
    Likes Received:
    778
    Trophy Points:
    131
    You dont need the serial for a clean install of Windows as its built into the motherboard. Also i suggest you to replace the HDD with an SSD since they're cheap these days to really improve performance, You can get a 1TB SSD for under $100.
     
  5. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Not in UK, they are £200 ish. $260!!!
     
  6. KING19

    KING19 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    358
    Messages:
    1,169
    Likes Received:
    778
    Trophy Points:
    131
    That sucks. Does your laptop has a M.2 slot? If so then you buy a smaller sized SSD to install Windows on and use the HDD as a storage drive.
     
  7. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

    Reputations:
    4,740
    Messages:
    8,513
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I bought an no name brand 1TB SSD from Amazon UK for £61 and it`s been running 16hr a day for a couple of months with no problems.

    John.
     
    joluke and bilabonic like this.
  8. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,923
    Likes Received:
    4,701
    Trophy Points:
    431
    1 TB SanDisk SSD for £94.02.
     
    bilabonic and Tinderbox (UK) like this.
  9. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I can't fill 256Gb these days, it's only movies/series which take the [ace.
    BUT i have a bew screen now which can run better specs.....But i will always download 'middle of the road' 0.7- 1Gb film, series with all episodes is 10Gb max...lol

    You guys are great, so much knowledge and good advice.

    Cheers
     
    KING19 likes this.
  10. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Well my old acer just died om me!!!! No screen, played/disconnected all wires to it.
    Plugged my spare monitor in and boots up ok until you enter password, the its just a jumbled screen of colours!!!

    It will run im safe mode so i'm currently copying all my files from it.

    I'm on the new one now and its ok, i missed that it was updating a lot of things when i first plugged it in...lol

    Only 50 mins ro go to copy stuff from my desktop, then i got my music/documents.

    Once i have everything safe on a usb i will put a fresh Win10 on this, i've made a bootable drive and F9 is to enter boot selection.

    Wish me luck!!! lol

    Thanks fuys
     
  11. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    579
    Messages:
    3,537
    Likes Received:
    488
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Here's my biggest concern is the fan running full bore at idle. This means you need a through dust bunny cleaning before any Windows update. That should be first priority cleaning the system out. After that should help with the install as temps will be cooler and system will run cooler to install. Heat is the system enemy and worse when installing as that taxes the system. After W10 install just use the MS Defender that comes with it that is free and don't install needless junk first. Install the needed drivers and make a backup image using the Windows 7 backup feature to burn a copy off. Then after that you can install your custom software then it should work. If you already have a COD W10 key that is a plus.
     
    bilabonic likes this.
  12. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I have done a fresh install of Win10 , the fan was only running full speed at it was adding updates that i was not aware off.
    It's running fine but close to limit on RAM (see my other thread where i bought the wrong type!!) but i have now linked to proper ones from Ebauyer one is Crucial the othe Hyper X?

    I still have not disabled in Defender as i'm considering what antivirus/firewall to use (premium paid for). This is also one one of my other threads mate.

    I have started on the tweaks and must do things and used OOSU10 to disable a load of bloatware.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ixes-index-post-1.779394/page-9#post-10079217

    My thread on Ram/SSD -

    Thread - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-ram-got-4gb-atm.830856/page-2#post-10962157

    Crucial or Hyper X?

    Cheers mate
     
  13. Primes

    Primes Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    919
    Messages:
    1,736
    Likes Received:
    718
    Trophy Points:
    131
    I'm not sure what your asking, but for email, do not use windows email. It doesn't even have simple security features such as image blocking. Use Thunderbird instead. If you need to archive email from your old computer use Mail Store. Awesome program that archives and has super fast search. They even have a portable version so you can run it from a USB stick.
     
    bilabonic likes this.
  14. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I always use Thunderbird, just followed a simple guide on Youtube, transferred the hidden folder.

    Just need RAM now as i ordered the wrong type,,,lol...

    I was to scared to ask on here as one of the vets give me a slight warning to DYOR,,,,

    This is what i should of gone for, i seen out of stock but did not see link to other Sellers

    This - https://www.ebuyer.com/740025-crucial-8gb-ddr4-2400-sodimm-laptop-memory-ct8g4sfs824a

    Or This - https://www.ebuyer.com/797219-hyper...l14-sodimm-memory-memory-ebuyer-hx424s14ib2-8
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2019
  15. bilabonic

    bilabonic Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Mr. Fox likes this.
  16. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

    Reputations:
    37,213
    Messages:
    39,333
    Likes Received:
    70,624
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The deal with RAM is you want more than enough and NOT single channel. So, two sticks with a total capacity of at least 8GB total (4GB x 2) or 16GB (8GB x 2). Most normal consumer uses only need 8GB. Some things will gobble up RAM, like photo and video editing, so those users can benefit greatly from 16GB or more. Beyond having more than you need and dual channel, RAM speed has minimal effect on performance (measurable in RAM benchmarks, but not much else). Most consumer systems do not support ECC memory. You would find ECC memory used in server applications with a Xeon processor.
     
    Fire Tiger and jclausius like this.
  17. Primes

    Primes Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    919
    Messages:
    1,736
    Likes Received:
    718
    Trophy Points:
    131
    What I do when I need to upgrade ram on a system I'm not familiar with is run CPU-Z ( portable). It will tell you the exact type of ram you have, speed and voltages. Then I buy ram with the same type, especially the voltage. Also consult system documentation to find out max amount of ram, etc, if you are upgrading.
     
    Mr. Fox likes this.