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    NHC How To??

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by airspeed, Jan 4, 2007.

  1. airspeed

    airspeed Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey there,

    Can someone come up with a guide on how to use and set nhc properly for us non-geeks????

    Pleezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  2. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well what did you want to do with it?
    Tim
     
  3. MYK

    MYK Newbie NBR Reviewer

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    It's nice that you just asked for something from people that you just called "geeks".
     
  4. otakuoverlord

    otakuoverlord Notebook Evangelist

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    Geeks?! GEEKS!? I've been called a lot of things; fat, lazy, stupid, pointless, arrogant, crass, a terrible mistake, queen of italy.... But a geek?! How dare you, sir!

    Seriously, what are you having trouble with? NHC basically sets itself up.
     
  5. crappyGPU

    crappyGPU Notebook Consultant

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    the only thing not set up is CPU voltage, you can adjust it quite easily, but should be careful, a drop of more than 15% would freeze your laptop - as it did to mine
    when i installed NHC for the first time, CPU voltage adjustment wasn't usable, until i copy a file that had a name regarding voltage (can't remember) to the NHC folder
     
  6. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    What is a difference between a NHC geek and a NHC non-geek? How much you don't have to know to be a non-geek? Just asking. :)

    1. I find help really helpful.
    2. I read help.
    3. I do what it says in help.

    I set everything I like and test it. Voltages are the most important thing in notebook world if you want to keep it cool. So you can check my undervolting guide in my sig. Ati settings (in case you have ATI card) are also powerful. Disk is not so important. So if you have any particular issue you want to discuss, I would be happy to help you.

    Ivan
     
  7. airspeed

    airspeed Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Guys,

    I used the word non-Geek because I thought idiots might offend someone. I guess I could have said something like the unenlightened or something.

    Now you guys know that is a simple word to use when describing some really cool dudes. I aspire to be a geek, I've tried to be a geek for years. In fact my relatives think I am one. I can reformat, backup, adjust settings, fix programs and tweak etc on PCs. But I have never delved into the specialty of notebooks. I am scared to touch bios or registries. I can install memory too. So I guess on a level of 1 to 10, I would say I am about a 3 and you guys who I spend hours talking to in computer stores are about a 10.

    I read the help guys and it is preety bad. And help is usually kinda no help without a considerable time of study and interpreting. Its just not intuitive.

    First I want to protect my new little friend. Then I would like to extend battery life. And I want to give my cpu a chance to live a long happy life. That way I don't have to have a knockdown drag out fight with it that lasts for about three days in my robe!

    My nhc started up in dynamic switching which has lowered my clock to 1G. I don't know if dynamic switching is a good all around setting for doing various tasks, like watching dvd's, viwing photos, audio editing, word processing.

    What is an internal and external clock,What is clocK modulation btw. Is dynamic switching better than max battery? Why would one want to use custom dynamic switching?

    stability check doesn't do anything.

    What's a multiplier? I haven't set anything but my multiplier is 6x and .95V.

    ACPI is totally over my head.

    What is alternate System Power Status?

    What does pwr management have to do with spin down and what is the number next to it?

    Basically I would like a full briefing that help does not provide. I guess I am one of those people that likes to know why.

    I will definitely check out the sig, ikovac, just as soon as I find that.

    I have a Sony Vaio 330pb. 2G ram, 2G cpu,

    give me some slack guys, I'm just a girl.

    Besides, just think of all the people out there too scared to ask that will become a little more enlightened!

    airgirl
     
  8. RogueMonk

    RogueMonk Notebook Deity

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    Use the nhc's own helps on its website. Read it and its all you need - http://www.pbus-167.com/nhc/nhc_main.htm
     
  9. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    After an intro like that, do you really want us telling you how to mess with your CPU voltage or GPU frequencies?

    Yes, you could have. Bruised my ego like you wouldn't believe...

    Well why didn't you say so? Yeah sure some of these geeks will help you out, m'am. NHC for the most part is install-and-go though. Anyway, welcome to the forum.
     
  10. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    You may only want the processor to use a certain speed at certain times; for example, if you are rendering images or doing other similar tasks (which are 100% CPU intensive), then you'll want the processor to be at full speed the entire time. So, setting the switching so that the processor can only use the base multiplier and the top multiplier (lowest and fastest frequencies - ex: in my Pentium M, that would be multipliers 6x and 14x, which are 800MHz and 1860MHz respectively) would prevent the processor from thinking about downclocking - it wouldn't want to downclock to 800MHz because there is not enough power at that frequency; maybe 1600 MHz or 1730MHz occasionally when it doesn't need the full power offered by the 1860MHz top frequency, but if you disable those in between multipliers (the multipliers determine the frequency), then it won't downclock. :) That may have been a bit confusing but it is rather hard to explain in words.
    Yes it does - if you set custom voltages, it will test the processor for stability. Stability is CRITICALLY important if you have modified voltages. The full stability test takes hours.

    I detailed how to underclock a Pentium M processor in the cooling guide.
     
  11. hehe299792458

    hehe299792458 Notebook Deity

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    I left my settings on the factory default ones, and notebook can only switch between 1.00 and 2.33 ghz most of the times (occasionally, it goes to 1.66 or 2.00 for a sec.). Strange... Does anyone know if this is normal, and if not, what should I do to fix it?
     
  12. airspeed

    airspeed Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Guys,
    Chaz, thank you for your reply. I read the guides you and ikovac wrote and they were absolutely fantastic! I have to admit mostly over my head. But I am chipping away at this new knowledge and it takes awhile.

    I was only interested in undervolting because I need to be careful. I am not sure how your volts would relate to a duo core and not sure how to check if it can be done with that machine. It was interesting and the replies to them were also very good. The NHC recognizes the duo core because I see it on the voltage page. I am interested in prolonging the battery life so I can play some dvds on a long transoceanic flight soon. Not sure if undervolting is appropriate for that application.

    hehe, I see you have the dell1210 and I was torn between buying that one or the Sony Vaio 330pb. Yours has the 256 Nvidia TC and mine has the 128mb Nvidia and an intel. How do like your machine?

    thanks guys again, you are all very knowledgable. :)
     
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    The difference is hardly noticeable. I do regret somewhat of not having gone with the MBP or something with a little more power.
     
  14. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    No problem airspeed - I personally like answering to a concrete question. :)

    Undervolting will not help you a lot with the battery, but will keep your notebook cool - and fan will not turn on too often, so it will help a bit. (What a sentence :D ...) I hope you understood :eek:

    I don't have core duo, so I cannot say how NHC works with it, but I guess it should be the same. On pentium M you just lower 0,2 V or so on every multiplier and you get much cooler comp. In my case it is 14C in gaming - that is a huge difference in fan speed (two "speed gears" in my case). So I would recommend undervolting as the safest and best thing to do If you want to tune your notebook. Stability is the next issue, and NHC (as Chaz said) can test it for a while if your CPU can hande the load at that speed and voltage. I set my voltages to the lowest possible, and then raised every to the next higher voltage. Even then I experienced some instabilities and raised highest multipliers by another notch. That way I got everything nice and stable.

    I hope this helps,

    Ivan