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    Laptop Lags Even With SSD?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Drew1, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. Drew1

    Drew1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Laptop is


    Asus u45jc-a1. Laptop specs are i3-370 processor and 4gb ram. Had 250gb hard drive but i went and got a 250gb Samsung Pro SSD hard drive b/c i was told i would not have any lagging at all when playing 20+ tables with HEM and TN on.


    Well whenever i get close to that... my laptop lags and freezes a lot on pokerstars. Basically to the point where its moving so slow and lags a lot and im sitting out at my tables. Does anyone know why my laptop lags this much even with the ssd? I had thought with the ssd, i would not have any problems at all. I doubt its b/c its only an i3 processor?


    Thing is back in the usa, my desktop was an i5 processor with 4gb ram. I used Holdem Manager and Tableninja and rarely did i ever get any lag and playing 20+ tables. This was when i didn't have an SSD and the desktop while playing on stars back a few years ago... is faster than my laptop now with a samsung pro ssd.



    Anyone know what i can do? I defrag my laptop every week. Maybe its the amount of processes that startup on my laptop?



    Im very confused why this is happening b/c i thought ssd would solve any lagging or slowness while multabling on with HEM and TN.
     
  2. Drew1

    Drew1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I did the task manager checking to see how much memory is used when playing lot of tables and when its lagging


    Cpu usage is 50 percent.. 70 percent physical memory.. 2.65gb used and 103 processes


    is what i see when pressing task manager when playing many tables


    what should i do now then?


    someone tell me that my laptop is slow b/c i3 for a laptop is much slower than an i3 for a desktop computer? Someone said my desktop which is an i5 is a quadcore and this one i3... isn't that fast. He said i have to get a new laptop. Is that correct? I know you cant really buy an i5 or i7 processor and put that in a laptop right? I was told thats very hard compared to desktop? Someone said buy new laptop fast one, then take my samsung ssd and put it on the new laptop. But thing is i really like this laptop b/c its very small size and like it.


    Anything i can do with the processes? I have about 80 that start up at the minimum even when im doing nothing on it when browsing online...
     
  3. S.SubZero

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    I assume this is some sort of card game.

    I don't understand what "lag" you refer to, is it graphical?

    An SSD will relieve bottlenecks at the disk level. It won't do anything for graphics or RAM.
     
  4. Drew1

    Drew1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    yes its online poker. By lag, i mean like the games on each table lags. Like imagine playing a game and then the internet is very bad... then it lags a lot and very slow.
     
  5. Justin1017

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    You said you defrag your computer every week. Please tell me you haven't defragged your SSD. All that does is hurt it and decrease its performance and the length of its life.

    The SSD isn't going to fix your lag. You're likely lagging due to your CPU, GPU, or lack of RAM. I doubt the game requires any more RAM, so it's probably CPU or GPU, GPU if it's graphical lag. But, since you said your i5 desktop didn't lag, then I'm gonna go with that you're lagging because of the sub-par CPU on your laptop.

    Guess I should also mention that you CAN buy a new CPU for your laptop, but only if your current one is not soldered.
     
  6. S.SubZero

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    When it lags, look at your computer's disk activity indicator. If it's blinking like crazy, the disk is being taxed. If it's not blinking like crazy, the disk isn't doing much. My suspicion is your have either a graphical bottleneck or an internet bottleneck, depending on how the game does things.
     
  7. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    If the CPU is running between 50-70% load at all times then yes this will tend to make things lag quite a bit. As mentioned too though be sure about your internet connection and the like.
     
  8. HTWingNut

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    Windows 7 32-bit or 64-bit?

    The specs for the machine calls out a nVidia 310m GPU. Make sure that GPU is active, not the Intel, when playing the games. The integrated graphics on that chip are awful.
     
  9. JOSEA

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    When you used the desktop were you on a wired connection? How about the laptop, wired or wireless?
     
  10. RCB

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    Hey Drew,

    I'll throw in a couple ideas.
    HTWNut may be right about your graphics card - make sure the right one is being used and that the settings are working.

    I have a Samsung Pro 840 SSD and it performs quite well along with a Samsung 830 OEM.
    Did you by chance reinstall windows to the new SSD or clone from your hard drive? If the latter did you make sure the drive got aligned properly?

    Assuming above is ok, you could try opening the device manager (in admin acct.) finding the drive and setting the policy to: Turn Off Write-Cache Buffer Flushing - set to Enabled/Checked. This is a good adjustment for 840 Pro.
     
  11. SL2

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    Autostarting programs can make computers lag even though you can't really see that they use any significant amount of CPU or RAM resources.
    This is true ESPECIALLY for some of those that comes preloaded when you buy the computer.

    A clean install of Windows 7 or 8 uses up to 35 processes, and after you have installed drivers it may be as much as 70.
    However, most of those added processes comes from programs made for the device you installed the driver for, but those programs are rarely needed.
    These hardware related autostarting programs usually doesn't make the computer lag very much, but on the other hand they rarely make any good either.

    The only hardware related Autostart I have activated on my desktop with W8.1 is for the mouse. I have 36 processes when booted.

    It sounds like you didn't do a clean install, which is preferable when switching to a SSD.
     
  12. RCB

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    One other thing I just noticed in your post: 250 GB SSD, this wouldn't be a pro SSD; though it shouldn't matter - still a fast drive.

    Hopefully your drive isn't more than 75% full.
     
  13. darkydark

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    I would firstly check temperatures and record maximum temperatures then go on with these steps. As i've been asked few times to recomend notebook for exact same use i have some vague recolection about software you use.

    Your notebook has nVidia optimus and software you use is most likely written in flash. I would recomend going into bios and disabling Optimus technology so you can benefit from your gpu doing some flash hardware acceleration. That should help a little. Altho you are not using full 4gb of ram, upgrade would be wellcome to at least 8 gigs as software will then alocate even more stuff into ram. Other that "poker tables software" are you running some databases that track your hands in the background since those can tax your cpu. And funny as it seems even tho cpu is sitting at 50% either due to overheating or throttling - once you start palying those cards actively cpu starts to get taxed alot and 20 tables are hard for an i3 to deal with, as my last client had same problems with pretty similar notebook.

    your ssd is working fine and lagg is due to poorly written software that overtaxes cpu. I'm not sure that hardware acceleration will help but you can try. and once more check for temperatures and throttling and if that is the case cleaning system from dust should help alot.
     
  14. ajkula66

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    One should *never* defrag a SSD.

    The number of processes seems excessive to me as well.

    I'd suggest a clean install and possibly adding some RAM.

    Good luck.