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    Is it possible to make my own SP1 Vista Disc?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by MegaMan X, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. MegaMan X

    MegaMan X Notebook Evangelist

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    I have 64bit Vista Anytime Upgrade Disc, and I'm planning to buy a new laptop and do a clean install of vista on it.

    The first time I did something like this, SP1 for Vista didn't come out yet. Now that its out, do I just need to use something like nLite and slipstream it on? Even though all I have is an Anytime Upgrade Disc?

    Where do I download Sp1 standalone for 64bit? I could only fine the 32bit version on Microsoft website.
     
  2. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

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    MegaMan X Notebook Evangelist

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  4. crash

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    Be careful when using vlite, however. SP1 for Vista was not intended to be slipstreamed, and when done so with vlite, causes Windows Update to not work properly. You may not be able to get updates via WU if you slipstream SP1 with vlite.
     
  5. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I have been meaning to do this but wonder if it works with OEM Vista.
     
  6. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

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    @ l crash l
    I've slipstreamed the update with no issues. Furthermore, SP1 is now integrated in all forthcoming retail and OEM Vista discs.
    @ ViciousXUSMC
    Yes, it works with OEM Vista. I reinstalled from a custom disc with SP1 slipstreamed, after ripping the installation from an Anytime Upgrade CD I bought about 8 months, back and everything works like a charm. I had no issues activation nor updating Vista.
     
  7. stealthsniper96

    stealthsniper96 What Was I Thinkin'?

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    Can't you just install it then run the update? seems like burning the disk is a waste of time.
     
  8. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    I reverberate CRASH's warning. Come time for SP2, vLite users will likely be in a world of hurt...just like the vLite users were this last time around.
     
  9. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

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    I had and have no issues, but I'll take you up on such warning. And will post back when SP2 comes out if I run into any problems, albeit, I don't see how SP1 could pose an issue if integrated.
     
  10. crash

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    See this, this, and this. As long as Microsoft and the makers of vlite tell us that you cannot correctly slipstream SP1, I'll continue to warn users of it.
     
  11. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

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    @ l Crash l
    I haven't read those article before and didn't realise there was an issue surrounding the matter. However, you must note that none of the articles state that you cannot slipstream SP1. The Microsoft issue is simply that you cannot see SP1 in Windows Update, and states the likely cause to be the fact that you have already installed SP1 or did not use an updated version of vLite. Furthermore, why would you need to see SP1 in Windows update if you already have the update installed? As for the second article, this one follows the same trend. The main culprit is that users remove required components in an attempt to tweak or minimize their installation, and this is what causes the issue. The issue is not from vlite, since the program merely copies the contents of your installation disc and mirrors it. And the official vLite article states that the user may have removed components required, once again. As for myself, all I did was slipstream SP1...no further tweaking and Windows Update shows the presence of such.
     
  12. crash

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    Yes, it is possible to use vlite to ONLY slipstream SP1 and do nothing else, but even then there are reported problems with that. However, that would be your best bet, I guess.

    FWIW, this guide states that
    I suggest then that if you recommend using vlite to slipstream SP1, you make it absolutely clear NOT to remove any components or to change anything other than slipstream SP1. However, that takes away the whole premise of vlite... oh well.
     
  13. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    But can you then edit the disc afterwords? ;)
     
  14. amoney3

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    With that, I agree. I presumed that he would just directly slipstream and burn, but we can never predict each person's action. I'll make a not of the suggestion if I ever recommend it again.
     
  15. amoney3

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    You can edit the disc. ie- allow it to automatically create your account, input product key, and choose certain settings (such as UAC and the windows update options). Nonetheless, unless you know the ins and outs of Vista SP1, I wouldn't recommend you strip anything from the installation...albeit, adding would be fine.
     
  16. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I agree. The entire issue that came up with SP1 and vlite installs of Vista were attributed to folks having removed some components of Vista. The SP1 installer moaned and would not work until those components were restored.

    So adding stuff should NOT be an issue. And removing stuff MIGHT not be an issue in the future. It is that operative word "MIGHT" that is the fly in the ointment. We just don't know.

    Gary
     
  17. synic

    synic Notebook Deity

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    Just install Vista and get SP1 through Windows Update... ? What's wrong with doing it this way? I've done this on 2 machines and I'm still going :p
     
  18. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Not so much what is wrong, but what is faster. If you are installing Vista and SP1 on multiple machines or on the same machine multiple times it can be much faster to integrate, aka slipstream, SP1 into the install media first.

    Gary
     
  19. crash

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    That's how I do it. ;)