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    Intergrated Graphics and Vista

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by jmerfel, May 24, 2006.

  1. jmerfel

    jmerfel Newbie

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    Hi,
    Im planning on buying a laptop in the next couple of months, and i was wondering if the intergrated graphics on the Dell inspiriation(sp) e1405 is going to be enough to run vista when it comes out. I dont plan on playing games with it, and i will use it pretty much for school work, and watching dvd's...etc... The Graphics that are in it are the Intel 950.

    One more question..
    is it worth going to hp and getting a AMD Turion processor, or getting an Intel Duo? any advantages with 64bit on a laptop?


    Thanks
    James
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    Vista will run but you may not get all the eye candy.

    Given your planned use, no, you don't need anything beyond the Core Solo processor.
     
  3. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    Man, if you are buying a laptop in the next couple of months... just wait a bit. Give it 2-3 months and you will be able to buy a laptop with a Turion X2 (Duo core and 64 bit) or an Intel Duo 64-Bit... just wait. u will get both and wont have to make a choice. The intel cpu thats coming out is the Merom. remember that word. :) Its gonna consume even less power, produce less heat and be completely future-proof and be able to run 64-bit version of Vista. The 32-bit will suck... forget it. Its worth waiting.

    But just like Brian said, if schoolwork and watching movies is all you are gonna do, then a pentium m 760 will cut it for you JUST FINE.

    As for the intergraded graphics... i wouldnt recommend it. Get something with a low-end GeForce (7300 or 7400) or a low-end ATI (X1300 or X1400 or even X600/X700). Dont go for the intel accelerator. Its virtually useless. Even your DVD movies wont look the same. Makes a huge difference for only a couple extra bucks.
     
  4. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    The ATI Radeon 200M and nVidia GeForce 6150 integrated GPUs will be adequate for Vista. The Intel GMA950 is about half as fast as the 200M and I trust ATI and nVidia far more than Intel. Plus if you're going to run Vista you might as well go straight to 64-bit Vista, which Intel currently can't do. I'd wait a few more weeks for a Turion X2 and their better integrated GPUs. HP's new dv2000z/Compaq V3000z series, hopefully going on sale June 6th (best guess), is what you should be looking at.
     
  5. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    Grrrrr... the Merom is better!!! AMD rushed their Dual-core mobile Turion because they saw that they are stuggling against Intel. Its gonna be quite bad at first... The Intel chip, however, will be far more stable AND it is interchangable with the current Intel Core Duo processors (if socketed). Also uses 60 nanometer technology... :D :D :D
     
  6. jmerfel

    jmerfel Newbie

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    ok, thanks for the replys
    I plan on getting one in a couple of months, so i am just doing some research about them. i have looked at the HP laptops alot, and now hearing that, it will make me wait a little longer.
    Thanks for your help
    James
     
  7. NumLock

    NumLock Notebook Evangelist

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    Really? or your just over exaggerating? aren't video cards only important for 3d modeling programs and 3d games....... would be great if you can show some samples...
     
  8. merky works

    merky works Notebook Geek

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    dvd movies will look the same! are you kidding me, the graphics card will matter. the biggest thing is resolution and screen quality. if he is looking for 14.1 model then he will have a hard time finding one with an integerated card, plus the fact that it will eat up more power, aka less battery time. i got a gma 900 and it plays dvd just fine and even play older games really well. i can play Call of Duty at 1280x1080 with the settings on high and there is ZERO freeze or chop.


    just wait for the new chipset for better battery life and you will love the e1405
     
  9. moku

    moku Notebook Consultant

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    i think theres to much hype about how vista is going to eat away at your system resources. i think you will be fine if your going to be doing mostly school work and dvd. just like me..
     
  10. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    You know... i beg to differ. I know an individual that works for Microsoft Corporation in Moscow City and he is somewhere up THERE in the tree of hierarchy. He has informed me on numerous occasions that your pentium 2.4 Ghz with no hyper threading and an intergrated graphics card will not make it. The new 3D engine that the OS uses will drain 128 mb of VRAM out of your acceleratior and completely clog up the Dual 64 Bit processor. thats at least. so make your assumtions from then on.
    An intel GMA is not on the list of chipsets used by Vista Capable computers... Sorry.
     
  11. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    Actually the GMA950 will work guarenteed.

    You have to realize that the "elite" computers make up a very small part of overall computer sales. Microsoft is not going to make the OS for only the best and newest computers. They are trying to dominate the entire world computing market. Therefore, you won't need hyperthreading or dual core technology to run the OS. This is not a game folks! There WILL be a 32bit version, and there will absolutely be a stripped down basic version. Microsoft uses that tester program to not only give people a general idea, but to boost Vista's marketing to the average consumer. It's just an interest tool..."don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle". And we already know how much sizzle has left the Vista hype.

    If you want the eye candy and room to play with, pick specs for that. I wouldn't worry about the OS itself. Remember that an Operating System is just a facilitator....it gives a user interface for navigating drives and starting programs. For new computers it won't be a big concern to run Vista, unless you want to use Aero and game. PLUS, you won't even be able to get vista for almost another year!!
     
  12. Vlad_I

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    Why would you want to go with the stripped down version? thats the only question that i have... why oh why...
    the 32 bit version is not gonna be bearly as good as the 64 bit version.
    But u know what... if it makes u happy, it makes me happy too :D
    By the way, running Vista on a Solo processor is gonna be a cause of multiple coffee breaks throughout your day. You know why? Cause thats how long it will take you computer to do anything at all... ( a coffee break )
     
  13. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    Sometimes specs are just that...specs. If you can't make use of the 64 bit technology why do you need it? Different strokes for different folks.

    I don't want the stripped down version...but there are MANY who have justifiable reasons for getting it.

    I also guarentee you'll be able to use something w/o multithreading properties. I bet a lot of people will strip it down to "classic" look to save memory usage. Yes, if you have the capabilities Vista can make use of the other core(s), but you won't be hurt by not having them.

    The real benefit will come from APPLICATIONS with these technologies. And these will come more frequently soon after Vista arrives.