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    Firefox 3.7 to get big changes

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Jayayess1190, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Thanks for the news. But Firefox 3.7 is not going to release in this year. What a pain. T.T
     
  3. Jayayess1190

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    3.6 will be out in November, and 3.7 nightly builds are already available.
     
  4. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    Nice that they decided to evolve with everyone else.
     
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    i think it's interesting how they will adapt microsofts own user interface concepts that they evolved over years with much efforts, while microsoft by itself forgot to apply them onto ie so far :)

    i love the ribbon, as it's a logical design with much effort put in.

    The Office 2007 UI Bible
    a great read, showing on every bit, why they made the decision, and how hard it sometimes was. this should be applied to a much broader range of environments. edit: not the ribbon per se, but the way they worked on developing it.


    edit2: i'm actually unsure if the ribbon itself would be a good fit for firefox. i'd think only adopting the new backspace of office 2010 for settings and more "advanced menupoints" would fit more. my firefox only has 8 buttons, and i have to touch the menu (one of those buttons) only about once every other week, or so.

    so personally, i think, they could do without the ribbon, as there isn't that much stuff in firefox. but create something that replaces the ordinary menu, that would be nice.
     
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    donnboner Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nice design, but I guess chrome 3 is getting ahead of Mozilla. Perhaps, instead of focusing on UI, Mozilla should also focus on optimizing its Jscripts just like Chrome, google browser is pretty darn fast.
     
  7. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    firefox is, too, at runtime. it's only slow starting up. and they should fix that, yes.

    but most of chromes speed is placebo effect (not noticable), except for the amazing speed it starts.

    edit: which, i tested right now, isn't faster than any of the browsers on my ssd :) so even while they should still optimize, as more and more ssd based laptops will pop out in the future, it might not be that important :)
     
  8. Vinyard

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    Firefox 3.7 looks great! I love the design very much and I also like the new features. Firefox will most likely still be my favorite browser but the 3.7 version seems so far away! I can't wait for it. I guess 3.6 will do fine for now. (In November)
     
  9. Garandhero

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    Looks like a chrome copy. For all of you that love this, why not just use Chrome now - its like exactly this except you can use it now.

    Also IE8 looks much more like this already too.

    FF is desperate.
     
  10. davepermen

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    except that it's from a company that tries to control the web, and tries to get you into their cloud to make you pay one day.

    thanks no, i don't dive into the google everything thing. firefox is not desperate, it performs wonderfully and outperforms all other browsers in usability and flexiblity (and speed is never a bottleneck here).

    and it looks even today much better than chrome in my case. and uses up less screen space for it's ui.
     
  11. Vinyard

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    I totally agree with you. But I don't think Firefox outperforms all the other browsers. I think IE8, Chrome and Firefox are quite equal. I mean, all of them can do the same things. One is a little bit faster than the other but you don't notice it.
     
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    all of them are just as fast on my systems thanks to ssd (firefox would else be slower to start up). rendering wise they're all .. fast enough for the web (web still is the bottleneck by far, even with vdsl).

    so what matters then is feature set, and stability. firefox, like any browser, crashes from time to time. but it always recovers, and it's mostly allways a page with some flash content on it. it never took the system down unlike ie6,7 and 8 (including unbootable os afterwards). and google just randomly messes up with simple pages, unpredictable at times. firefox at least crashes predictably (streaming a flash video trough the work proxy: crash).
     
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    that screenshot of what they are saying 4.0 may look like, looks pretty nice.
     
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    firefox always lets you redesign the ui how ever you want, and will always, i'd guess.
     
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    To be honest, that's a horrible article. The person doesn't say anything specific what is wrong with the Firefox design. He only states that there are widgets everywhere without actually explaining and giving details. And how can you even compare the FF design with the IE one?! The proposed FF design is beautifully-done and it makes sense.

    However, I'm a minimalist and I don't like buttons everywhere. I don't have the bookmarks toolbar open, or the google search, and the only buttons I have to the left of the address bar are the back and forth ones, THAT'S IT.

    So, applying the same logic to the new FF design, I'll get rid of the "refresh" button, the Google search, the bookmarks toolbar (I don't know how that will be handled now that there's no more menubar). Also, I hope I can get rid of that "home" button and what's annoying (since FF 3.5) is the new "open a new tab" button... USELESS and redundant. Need an option to get rid of that as well and even the bottom status bar. And what I'm left with is a clean, simple, and modern design.

    By the way, does anyone know what that "hat-like" icon on the far right of the tab line is? It was introduces in the 2nd version of the mock-up.
     
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    Yes that what I want version 4.0 as previously stated.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Cin'

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    I think Firefox 3.7 is going to look nice! The new design/features...will be hopefully be well received by many ~ I'm sure I will likey!

    Cin...
     
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    I guess there's an acid test to check google chrome's capability. I dunno if you heard about NES games emulator being run on Jscripts?
    This guy setup a site where you could actually play a couple of NES games like Mario, Tetris etc without using 3rd party plugin nor emulator... just your browser.

    I was skeptical at first (I use firefox 3.5) but when I ran the game (Mario) it even cannot load (FPS is at 5). I tried Chrome 3 and it ran smoothly, FPS at around 40.

    Here's the site: http://benfirshman.com/projects/jsnes/