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    File erasing before you sell laptop

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by vaw, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. vaw

    vaw Notebook Deity

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    When you sell your laptop, what's the best way to permanently erase your personal files so that the buyer won't be able to recover them in any way? Do you keep the softwares you installed--could they include your personal data as well?

    And by the way for anyone who has bought used laptops, has it ever happened that you found previous owner's personal data? just curious...

    p.s. I'm sure the topic has been discussed but with the search feature disabled it's hard to find them.
     
  2. Enuj

    Enuj Notebook Enthusiast

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    Check out DBAN. It is a bootable CD that will erase everything on your harddrive. After that be sure to reinstall an OS on it.
    There have been some people talking about DBAN's poor support for newer hardware but the only way to see if it supports yours is to give it a try.
     
  3. crash

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  4. vaw

    vaw Notebook Deity

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    Thanks. Is there a way do erase the files without erasing the OS and some installed programs? I mean just the personal files?
     
  5. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    You can use Eraser for that, but if you have the OS reinstall disks, it's safer to completely wipe the HDD with DBAN and then reinstall the OS.
     
  6. vaw

    vaw Notebook Deity

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    Thanks! (glad the forum search is back :))
     
  7. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    dban seems to be the fave around here but any of the linux-based mini-distros like gpartd, etc, will work fine.
     
  8. crash

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    What does GParted have to do with erasing files? The OP wasn't asking about creating/extending/adjusting partitions.
     
  9. paper_wastage

    paper_wastage Beat this 7x7x7 Cube

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    a little offtopic question....

    do you guys know whether a router would retain any informaton?... it is essentially a small computer with a little memory looking through at everything you do from the internet
     
  10. crash

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    This has NOTHING to do with the topic on hand, please don't hijack other people's threads. Create a thread with this question or use the search to try and find some answers. Thanks.
     
  11. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    mis-wrote, sorry. what I meant to say (yah, right.......)

    the pmagic and systemrescueCD mini distros that include gpartd work fine as well.

    I use gpartd so genericlly I got sloppy for a sec, thanks for pointing it out.
     
  12. vaw

    vaw Notebook Deity

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    But the problem with DBAN is that all the installed programs will be erased, and you can't reinstall some of them which had been pre-installed when you bought the computer and if you don't have the discs. Without those software it will decrease the resale value :rolleyes:
     
  13. KarenA

    KarenA Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know if this is what you want, but try using the Wash feature in JKDefrag GUI.

    What this feature does (Taken from the website):
     
  14. vaw

    vaw Notebook Deity

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    I've downloaded Eraser. To be sure: this will erase only the blank space, so any system related programs, files will remain intact, correct?. In other workds it will not erase anything that you did not erase by yourself, but only erase traces of the files you already deleted?

    How long does it take for something like 20 GB free space?
     
  15. crash

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    From the program itself...
    So basically, yes the "Unused Disk Space" option only erases stuff that has already been deleted, if you know what I mean. That way those files will not be recoverable anymore.
     
  16. vaw

    vaw Notebook Deity

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    Thanks. I just tried it once and it didn't use too long time.

    Another question: can system restore (to a specific earlier date, or to factory default) or rescue and recovery restore the files erased this way?
     
  17. crash

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    Good question. While I'm not 100% sure on this, I would say that yes, it could still recover the files because Vista uses Shadow Copies to revert back to when you use System Restore. Vista uses space on your drive to store previous versions of files, and I'm pretty sure Eraser does not see that space as "unused".

    To be safe, you should delete all of your restore points, then use Eraser's "erase unused space" option.
     
  18. vaw

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    I have XP, not Vista.
    How to delete "all restore points"?
    Thanks.
     
  19. crash

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    Oops, I just assume you have Vista :eek:

    But, it's basically still the same. To delete the restore points, you can either
    1. Go to the Disk Cleanup. There will be a section for system restore, from which you can delete old restore points
    -or-
    2. Turn off system restore, which deletes all the restore points.
     
  20. vaw

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    Thanks, I just did it! Now if I've done so, is it still necessary to use DBAN to wipe out even the programs and OS?
     
  21. crash

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    Sorry for the delay.

    I thought the whole point of using eraser was because you didn't want to wipe the whole disk because you didn't want to reinstall the OS?
     
  22. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No, system restore only repairs system files, and it does that by reverting system files that have changed since the restore point was created back to the condition they were in at the time the restore point was made. In particular, system restore does not do anything with your personal files - if you lose a personal file, doing a system restore will not recover it.

    Using the recovery partition will not recover personal files either, as all it does is put back the files that existed when the computer was at the factory. In fact, using the recovery partition will destroy any files on the partition that weren't there when the computer was imaged at the factory.