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    Dual Boot Win XP and Vista

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by opie1313, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. opie1313

    opie1313 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a laptop on order with a 100 gb sata 7200rpm hard drive. The other specs on my new laptop (on order):

    Merom Core 2 Duo 2.16 ghz, 4mb, cache ($499 for processor if you are curious - the Yonah @ 2.16 ghz was $469 - so I thought why not upgrade)
    100 gb hard drive 7200 rpm
    x1600 ati
    DVD+RW
    1 g DDR2


    My goal is to have two operating systems on it: Windows XP Pro and Windows Vista. Just as a background, I use a laptop 12 hours per day and slam my memory. So, I am going to be putting this new laptop through the paces.

    My current laptop has a 60 gb hard drive. Currently I have about 11 gb in the program files folder. Windows XP folder takes up about 4 gb. I see no reason why this would decrease on my new laptop.

    So, here is my current plan for splicing up the hard drive

    Drive C:\ Windows XP pro
    Size of C: 30gb
    Drive D: Windows Vista
    Size of D: 30gb
    Drive H: File storage
    Size of H: 40gb

    So, my question is: Am I overallocating drive space to the operating systems in place? I would not mind have drive H: become 50 or 60 gb. What is your opinion? Also, can anyone think of any issues/problems due to installing 32bit Windows XP in one partition and 64bit Vista in the second one?

    Thanks in advance for help on this.
     
  2. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    There shouldnt be any problems, as partitions are separate and have nothin to do with eachother. Many many pple dual boot xp/2000 or xp/vista w/o any problems.
     
  3. opie1313

    opie1313 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the reply adinu. Looking forward to trying it out.
     
  4. lowlymarine

    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

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    Vista will complain loudly on installation and in the system dialog and give you really bad performance (for some mysterious reason most likely related to the awful fragmentation of NTFS + the bad paging executive in Vista) if you install it to a partition of less than 40GB, just to let you know. Not that it performs all that great anyways.

    I do have to add that I do use Vista as my primary OS during the week, however - it's fast enough (after the about 10 minute full boot, which should obviously be faster with a 64-bit version on a dual-core processor and 7200RPM drive) and has strong integration of the features I need. Hint: Use the latest available (preferably modded) graphics drivers - performance is really terrible with some of the older sets, at least with an nVidia card. And even still you're looking at about a 30-40% drop in 3D application performance in the switch to Vista (due to the way DirectX 10 handles older versions: in software).
     
  5. opie1313

    opie1313 Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks lowlymarine. I will bump up that partition to 40.
     
  6. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    hmm, that's a shame. I was going to suggest reducing the size of both OS partitions, and then use a bit of trickery to make it install everything onto the data partition.

    What I do is allocate ~15 GB per OS partition, and the rest to one big data partition. Then I use linkd.exe (free download from Microsoft) to link <OS partition>\Program Files and Documents & Setttings to a folder on my data partition (say, <data>\WinXP\Program Files)..
    Then, everything installed on <OS partition>\Program Files or Docs & settings are really placed on the data partition instead of the OS one. The main reason I do it is for more efficient usage of my disk space. (Now all programs from all OS'es actually install applications to the same partition, so I don't risk running out of space on XP, while Vista or x64 still has tons of space free)
    Also, it makes it easier to save your data when reinstalling an OS... :)

    But if Vista needs 40GB, that's obviously a problem. Maybe you could map program files and docs & settings on both OS'es to Vista's partition then, so you have something to use those 40GB for... ;)
     
  7. opie1313

    opie1313 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks Jalf. I have never heard of that before: linkd.exe.

    I know you were mentioning this tongue in cheek, but I think I am going to try it out (I can always just reformat if this fails):

    Drive C: WinXP
    Size: 15 gb and "linkd" to drive D: Program Files

    Drive D: Vista
    Size 40 gb

    Drive H: <Data partition>
    Size 45 gb

    Hopefully, that will optimize the storage without running into Vista's apparent storage and performance issues. I will post my results in a couple of weeks in case someone else on this forum is contemplating a similar installation.
     
  8. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    I wouldn't link it to d:\program files. That's a sure way to make Vista and XP overwrite each others' programs. :)
    Make it something like D:\WinXP\Program Files instead, so you can keep them separate
     
  9. opie1313

    opie1313 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Glad you reminded me. I will create a winxp folder.
     
  10. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    I dual boot Vista and XP on my M90 (see specs in sig). I have 80GB allocated to XP and 20 to Vista and I haven't noticed any probems at all with Vista. Maybe it's the Core Duo and the 7200 RPM hard drive that makes the difference, but Vista actually runs faster on my computer than XP. Just my thoughts.
     
  11. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    yeah, the 40GB thing sounded really weird to me, but I haven't tested it myself, so figured it was best to just assume it's true. ;)
     
  12. opie1313

    opie1313 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ftw, you have quite a similar setup to me. So, I might experiment with a 20 gb partition.

    So, my first try at this will be:

    c: Win xp
    size: 15 gb

    d: Vista
    size: 20 gb

    h: data
    size 65 gb
    linked
    Winxp\program files
    Vista\program files

    Thanks for all of the posts.
     
  13. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Oh yeah, you'll probably have to swap OS'es a fair bit to get it set up. (XP doesn't like it if you go around moving its system folders, so you should probably boot into Vista before trying to link XP's folders, and vice versa.

    And because of NTFS's crappy support for this, try to make sure drive letters are the same in both OS'es.

    Anyway, good luck. :D