Defragmentation woes.

I use O&O defrag (v 10.16.34) for defragmentation.(on windows Vista) I used it defragment and the fragmentation was 0.2% after it was full. A week later,after the whole process, it went up to 30 % and soon after to 50%. It just keeps increasing. No errors found in scandisk. BTW, it shows some files as being locked like hiberfil.sys, the SYSTEM VOLUME INFORMATION folder in c:\. Aslo, i use the complete/name method.
Any suggestions?

 

You might need to have it always run as an administrator...it might be getting denied access to stuff.

 

That's not the problem. It seems the locked/immovable files are taking a lot of space. The two that I mentioned above. (hiberfil.sys, SYSTEM VOLUME INFORMATION)
I decided to put up the report generated by O&O here:



2007-05-06 13:10:34: OS (C)
Status Report of O&O Defrag on Machine HELLCOMMANDER created: 6/5/2007 1:10:34 PM





Report for volume OS (C)
Action carried out: ANALYSIS
Status: Successful
Start: 6/5/2007 1:10:28 PM
Finish: 6/5/2007 1:10:34 PM
Time taken (hh:mm:ss): 00:00:06
Volume data
Serial number: 7D6E-E3EC
Device name: \Device\HarddiskVolume1
File system: NTFS
Total space: 143.30 GB (153,862,053,888 bytes)
Free space: 128.33 GB (137,795,575,808 bytes)
Total clusters: 37,563,978
Free clusters: 33,641,498
Sectors / cluster: 8
Bytes / sector: 512
MFT length: 93978624 bytes
MFT mirror start: 755,455
Start of MFT reserved area: 764,800
End of MFT reserved area: 816,032
Volume statistics
Total no. of files: 67,197
Total no. of directories: 10,606
Analyzed files: 77,803
Moved files: 0
Fragmented files before: 2,787
after: 2,787
Degree of fragmentation: before: 9.474
after: 9.474
List of fragmented files
Fragments No. of clusters File name
257 6,299 C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\Microsoft\SR61\1033\L1033.NGR
170 2,196 C:\Windows\inf\setupapi.dev.log
133 2,129 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Temp\O&O Defrag Professional\O&O Defrag Professional Edition.msi
85 341 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{5BAC798E-FA02-4251-B850-FF37E1FA7CC4}\setup.ilg
71 118 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Temp\SonyEricssonPCSuite.log
53 7,488 C:\Windows\System32\config\SOFTWARE_BAK_64783
49 225 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{40F7AED3-0C7D-4582-99F6-484A515C73F2}\setup.ilg
46 347 C:\Windows\Prefetch\ReadyBoot\Trace3.fx
41 43 C:\Program Files\HP\QuickPlay\Customizations\HP\Media\Orange\HP\
40 42 C:\Program Files\HP\QuickPlay\Customizations\HP\Media\Standard\HP\
37 2,421 C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\Microsoft\SR61\1033\L1033.DLM
36 6,658 C:\Windows\Installer\4eed8.msi
36 42 C:\Program Files\HP\QuickPlay\Customizations\HP\Theme\HP\
35 101 C:\$Secure:$SDS:$DATA
33 182 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{FC123EEA-330A-4685-911C-95B8F5E9DE68}\setup.ilg
33 574 C:\Windows\Installer\330c4.msi
29 476 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\FPCUTL.DLL
26 820 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\1033\XMLSDK5.CHM
26 1,076 C:\Windows\Installer\1d6f2a.msi
26 864 C:\Windows\Installer\32633.msi
24 10,061 C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\lib\rt.jar
24 315 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\dcache4.url
23 291 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr001BF.jpg
23 24 C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\en-US\
20 229 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr001BX.jpg
20 76 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{34D2AB40-150D-475D-AE32-BD23FB5EE355}\setup.ilg
19 1,721 C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\Microsoft\SR61\1033\AM031033.AM
18 85 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{8C453F13-6877-4D34-8816-009ABDE306DB}\setup.ilg
18 90 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{DFFE2B1F-07E0-45A9-8801-CD8514CAA876}\setup.ilg
18 19 C:\SwSetup\MSWorks\US\PFILES\MSWORKS\1033\WIZARDS\LANG1\
18 1,721 C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\Microsoft\SR61\1033\AI031033.AM
17 19 C:\SwSetup\MSWorks\US\PFILES\MSWORKS\1033\WIZARDS\LANG2\
17 17 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\Tutorial\graphics\
17 281 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\
17 17 C:\Windows\System32\wbem\Logs\wmiprov.lo_
16 137 C:\Windows\Installer\330c9.msi
16 1,721 C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\Microsoft\SR61\1033\CI031033.AM
16 243 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Assistance\Client\1.0\en-US\Help_MTOC_help.H1H
16 21 C:\Windows\panther\UnattendGC\setupact.log
15 186 C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\mdigraph.dll
15 802 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Temp\object.lto
14 44,763 C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
14 1,750 C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log
14 3,456 C:\Windows\System32\config\SYSTEM_BAK_93063
14 173 C:\Windows\Installer\{53480370-6CA2-47EC-BC05-02B4B9271C31}\_128C2413_0395_4225_ACD5_37F7D196F32F
14 173 C:\Windows\Installer\{53480370-6CA2-47EC-BC05-02B4B9271C31}\_2F7B8B49_4A02_49EF_9E9B_16E6D721008B
14 330 C:\Windows\Installer\3263e.msi
13 207 C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\lib\plugin.jar
13 158 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr001SG.jpg
13 13 C:\$Secure:$SII:$INDEX_ALLOCATION
13 142 C:\Windows\Installer\8e7b3d.msi
12 53 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{F94234DB-FD06-42C3-B88D-6FC4DC9F988C}\setup.ilg
12 335 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\Album\Album.psod
12 1,255 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Temp\383360.msi
12 553 C:\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash9b.ocx
12 145 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr001FM.jpg
12 2,972 C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\OFFICE11\MSO.DLL
11 173 C:\Windows\System32\oodag.exe
11 1,955 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Wise Installation Wizard\WISC8BB491212D942AEB571E580D8CD1B5B_6_0_1255.MSI
11 12 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\HowTo\ENU\
11 119 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Assistance\Client\1.0\en-US\Help_MKWD_AssetId.H1W
11 104 C:\Windows\Web\Wallpaper\HPWave.jpg
11 1,619 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE
11 103 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Temp\Norton Setup 10,1,0 5-3-2007 17h8m29s.log
11 504 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Temp\cshell.dll
11 981 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{5CA81D12-9EC2-4082-972B-43ECA63F41F2}\data1.cab
11 116 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr001IT.jpg
11 8,450 C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\DataStore.edb
11 229 C:\Users\Desh Raj\Desktop\Screens\Gears_of_War_by_bballs91.jpg
11 226 C:\Windows\Installer\176fb6.msi
11 437 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\1033\VBAAC10.CHM
10 700 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Sonic Shared\SonicMC01\SonicMPGDec.dll
10 291 C:\Users\Desh Raj\Desktop\Screens\Winters_Cove_by_l8.jpg
10 256 C:\Windows\Installer\4ef7c.msi
10 98 C:\Windows\panther\setupact.log
10 392 C:\Program Files\Roxio\Roxio MyDVD Basic v9\VideoUI 9\Content\Images\Football.png
10 212 C:\Windows\Installer\34db77.msi
10 56 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr0027L.jpg
10 11 C:\HP\logs\WizInstaller.log
9 258 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\OMFC.DLL
9 9 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\Tutorial\
9 55 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{AB5E289E-76BF-4251-9F3F-9B763F681AE0}\setup.ilg
9 70 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\TuneUp Software\TuneUp Utilities\WinStyler\BootScreens\Deinostri Satanas.tbs
9 85 C:\Program Files\Online Services\Dodo\Dodo.EXE
9 743 C:\Windows\inf\setupapi.app.log
9 45 C:\Windows\Installer\32670.msi
9 36 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr002FG.jpg
9 256 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\mfc71u.dll
9 480 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\1033\VIDEO.SWF
9 1,255 C:\Windows\Installer\388bbc.msi
9 439 C:\Program Files\Roxio\Roxio MyDVD Basic v9\VideoCore 9\Filters\sonicdvd_32.dll
9 224 C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows\Projects\SystemIndex\Indexer\CiFiles\00010021.ci
9 46 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr001M5.jpg
9 10 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\MEDIA\OFFICE11\BULLETS\
9 86 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Assistance\Client\1.0\en-US\Help_MKWD_BestBet.H1W
9 158 C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\lib\javaws.jar
8 101 C:\System.sav\SYSINFO.LOG
8 589 C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{34D2AB40-150D-475D-AE32-BD23FB5EE355}\data1.cab
8 2,400 C:\Windows\System32\WDI\LogFiles\BootCKCL.etl
8 25 C:\Users\Desh Raj\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\cache4\opr0027S.jpg

List of locked files
Fragments No. of clusters File name
69 9,216 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA
2 2 C:\$Extend\$RmMetadata\$Txf\
2 3 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP
2 1,147 C:\$Bitmap
1 1,024 C:\$LogFile
1 1 C:\$Extend\$RmMetadata\$TxfLog\
1 1 C:\$MFTMirr
1 600,432 C:\pagefile.sys
1 523,790 C:\hiberfil.sys
1 2 C:\$Boot

 

Do an offline defrag or defrag on reboot, whatever it's called in O&O.

 

I don't see why it's a problem that two big files are locked and can't be defragmented. Apart from everything else, hiberfil.sys is *not* actually fragmented, according to the report you showed.

Locked files are simply files that the OS keeps open for its own exclusive use. Nothing harmful in that. And no, your system performance is not determined by how fragmented hiberfil.sys is.

 

EDIT: Bah I should read further back than 1 post. As was mentioned...the two files I just wrote all those paragraphs on aren't even fragmented Nevermind then!

As mentioned above, set O&O to do a boot-time run ...make sure you check the options to defrag the page file and whatnot (if there is one..it's been a while since I tried OO out).

Another thing you might try after this is to clear your page file to 0, reboot, and then reallocate it in one block (make sure to custom set the minimum and maximum to the same value). The general rule of thumb is 1.5 times your RAM, but as you get more RAM the smaller your page file needs to be. There's also a cap to how much Windows can actually use, but it doesn't tell you and I can't remember.

Anyway, by preallocating a set amount of space for it, it'll no longer be fragmented in the future (assuming you had enough free space consolidated for it in one block )

For hiberfil.sys, I assume you actually use the hibernate function. In that case, hope that O&O can defrag it at boot-time. I know some defragmenters can and some can't. If you never hibernate, disable the option, and then you can just delete the file (back it up just in case ).