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    Best Defrag for Vista

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by aan310, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    title says it all.
     
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    Firov Notebook Consultant

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    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    of, i do have vista, for a note to all.
     
  4. ProntoR2

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    JkDefrag - my personal favorite defragger (for vista and XP).

    JkDefrag GUI - addon for those not comfotable with command line switching.
     
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    I use Raxco Perfect Disk.
     
  6. hehe299792458

    hehe299792458 Notebook Deity

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    I was just about to start another similar thread before I saw this one. Under vista, I'm having a hard time deciding between perfect disk and diskeeper
     
  7. The Forerunner

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    Auslogics for the win!
     
  8. qhn

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    IOBit SmartDefrag ( http://www.iobit.com/iobitsmartdefrag.html) - free (XP&Vista)
    reminding one the very good old norton disk defragger at the beginning of time. Play around with the manual settings, run it once and u'll notice real improvements

    cheers ...
     
  9. panteedropper

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    my favorite is diskeeper
     
  10. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    still, what does it really mean by "Best Defrag for Vista"? vista in its own has the good way of managing system resources (ram, drives etc ..) at the moment without the need to mess with disk defragging
    .... my 2 cents

    cheers ...
     
  11. -Recoil-

    -Recoil- Notebook Consultant

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    i just use windows own, cant see much real point in getting a different defrag software.. i notice a performance increase (load times).....
     
  12. markheus

    markheus Notebook Consultant

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    I just use the built-in one as well. I used to use Diskeeper, but I've read that they aern't as useful for Vista.
     
  13. jourabchid

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    I use O&O defrag pro, and it rocks great gui, easy to use reliable and accurate...
     
  14. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Do any of the third part Defrags attempt to optimize the order of files on the drive? Isn't the one built into Vista supposed to examine the "usage pattern" of the boot sequence and even our own system use and order the files for optimal load time?

    Gary
     
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    Toucan Notebook Guru

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    I am not sure about other defragment tools, but I know that O&O Defrag does it. It has four different methods for it, and the user can make the choice.
     
  16. vaio2k7

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    Whats the built-in one? I've used Diskeeper and I didnt install it on my FZ. I also downloaded the AusLogics Disk Defrag application and ran it. It looks good to me and consumes less memory. Is AusLogics open source? For me if it works fine (which it does) then I'd rather use it then Diskeeper which uses more memory.
     
  17. Sredni Vashtar

    Sredni Vashtar Notebook Evangelist

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    Right click on the disk icon, choose Properties, then Tools. Defrag should be there, right below Scandisk.
    I do not like the fact that it doesn't show its state: there is nothing there showing you what it's doing and at which point of the disk it is.

    I'll give it a try to one of the free defraggers around.
     
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    All of them do to some degree.

    O&O is the only one that gives the option of optimizing by various attributes (last access date, last write date, name, etc.), whereas the others typically are set to optimize by one attribute (usually access date or write date).

    Raxco tends to emphasize consolidating free space, whereas Diskeeper and Auslogics optimizes by use (or so they advertise).

    Diskeeper is best for autodefragging - i.e. you don't have to run manual runs.
     
  19. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    I remember when XP came out (or was it Win2000?) one of the features touted was that the OS kept a log of usage patterns for both boot up and typical use and applied that info when it defragged the disk. I assume Vista still collects THAT data and uses it to defrag.

    What I was REALLY curious about was if the third party Defraggers used that data. Last use, last write etc are all worthless. FREQUENCY of use is much more important in clustering files together to minimize head movement (the whole point of optimized defragging). Or at least I THINK that's the point of optimized defragging.

    Gary
     
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    I use and prefer Diskeeper pro 2007. It's manual defrags are quick, but for me these days, it has become "automatic defrag FTW" lol.

    BTW, DK runs without sucking much in the way of resources. You can hardly feel it's presence on the system. I haven't used Auslogics on my current system, but I seriously doubt it would be leaner than DK with the same efficiency.

    Anyway, choose the defragger that fits your requirements best.
     
  21. vaio2k7

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    Thanks. I did that and it said Diskeeper failed to initiate. So Diskeeper is the default. I disabled it in favor of AusLogics which seems to be a little quicker, and takes up less HDD space.
     
  22. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    That was one of the complaints I'd heard about Diskeeper. It "takes over" and assumes it is your tool of choice. Not sure how to go about restoring control to the built in one though.

    Gary
     
  23. hehe299792458

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    I may be wrong, but I don't think you can. You have to uninstall diskeeper first to get the built in one back. Anyways, I used to use Diskeeper on XP, but I now use Perfect Disk. I'll probably try O&O in the near future to see if I want to switch. In my opinion, the greatest drawback of the built-in defrag program's greatest flaw is the lack of a pre boot defrag tool. This is necessary to defrag page files, system files, etc. Of the remaining 3 3rd-party ones, they're all pretty good.
     
  24. vaio2k7

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    Now that I have uninstalled Diskeeper I see that the default one is Microsoft Disk Defragmenter. Its already got a schedule fixed, to run once a week. How good is this built-in defragementer?
     
  25. hehe299792458

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    If you have diskeeper, I'd definitely recommend that over the built-in one
     
  26. dimonay

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    +1 for Diskeeper Pro
     
  27. vaio2k7

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    Well I guess since I will go with AusLogics as my default disk defragmenter then. Diskeeper appears to use up more memory than it should be taking, like AusLogics is.
     
  28. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Isn't the built in one really Diskeeper "light". At one time I know it was. Not sure if that is still the case. Microsoft licensed Diskeeper's code base and incorporated it into an earlier version of Windows. Not sure WHEN that was.

    Gary
     
  29. vaio2k7

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    Yes I believe its Diskeeper Light or whatever. It always brings up a pop-up to "go-Pro".
     
  30. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    No, no. I mean the native Vista built in defrag. I believe it is actually built on the Diskeeper code base licensed from them by Microsoft. I don't know if the Vista one is like that. I do know that some earlier Windows incarnation of defrag was license from Diskeeper.

    Gary
     
  31. hehe299792458

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    They started during that since Y2K. I still remember all that controversy from the German government because the CEO of Diskeeper Corp is a scientologist.
     
  32. slowdive

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    A little addon for the built-in defrag, or other programs (like AusLogics) taht don't have pre boot defrag.

    PageDefrag (Microsoft/Sysinternal)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Is AusLogic Defragmenter supposed to only take like 5 minutes to do an entire 70GB disk? 30GB are being used, i havn't defraged since installing Vista in October. My Specs are in my sig.
     
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    I have a 400GB HD and i'm using about 200 of that and it only takes around 3 mins to do the entire drive with auslogics.
     
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    I just downloaded and installed the newest version of Tune-Up Utilities 2008 and it now comes with a defragger. I'm not sure how it is but its a great software package with a lot of other useful toys so if the defragger is any good this makes it an even better bargain.
     
  36. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Sorry Calvin, but that number is meaningless. It only takes YOU 3 minutes because obviously your drive had very litttle fragmentation. Without knowing how much work had to be done, it is impossible to compare the time it takes for ANY defragger to do its job. I am not saying auslogics is not quick, I am not saying it is. I am just saying theat quoting a time of three minutes for defrag of 200 gb is incomplete. You also need to indicate at the very least the percentage of fragmentation, or better yet the number of bytes moved during the defragmentation. For all we know, it took auslogics 3 minutes to defrag one 500 kb file, because everything else on the drive was already defragmented.

    Gary