Before I rage-quit Win 10…

How do I go about troubleshooting boot problems?
This is the 3rd time this has happened to me. Basically sometimes when it's booting it'll "hang" at the welcome screen - normally only spends a second there, but when the problem hits it'll be 10-15s. When it finally loads the desktop, I have no taskbar icons, and the start menu won't work.

Like I said this is the 3rd time (the first install was my own creation trying to remove the bloat, second was the build Phoenix made, this time it's stock using the clean install guide from Phoenix). Things do run good for a few weeks, then it goes to crap.

At this point if I gotta go back and reinstall, or even rollback to my backup image, I'm tempted to just say screw it and upgrade backwards (btw, what's the better option 7 or 8.1). So far I can't say Win 10 even does anything better for me than Win 7 did (never used 8.1), so I wouldn't be losing out on anything as far as I'm concerned

 

You have not managed to explain anything, besides the problem.

• How about your hardware?
• What laptop/desktop do you have?
• What software did you install?
• Did you allow Windows update to work or did you disable it?

It can be a magnitude of things.

Answer the above questions, and help will be sent.

 

standby, I will post what recently happened to me in a few mins maybe it will help

 

I have seen this "No taskbar icons and start menu don't work. Only after using some tweaks with Winaero tweaker. I don't remember witch one of them was the culprit. M$ Morons creates only trash today!! And more will come

 

@jaug1337 I'm running an Acer Nitro BE (i6700, gtx960, 8gb ram, Win 10 home CE - fully updated, but using WUMT)

I have done some stuff in Winaero tweaker, I'll try going back to defaults.
The only other thing I have done that hasn't been mentioned in the clean install guide is running Throttlestop, but I've tried disabling it and still have the problem.
Initially I thought maybe it had something to do with uninstalling "features" not playing well with the home version, but this time out I have them just disabled (O&O) - which worked well enough for me before (now that I think about it most of my problems have happened since Creators)

 

Creators still isn't fully functional without issues for all machines.

Wait to see what @Phoenix posts, but otherwise find a W10 pre-creators. The ISO doesn't play well with my W860CU (albeit it a old as hell WS).

 

I have already stated Crematory Build is trash!! And ThrottleStop ain't the culprit. Some Tweaks and The new Alpha build from the M$ Morons <can> make troubles for some. Blame the M$ Idiots!!

 

what is the error message you get when you try to boot? did you install the IRST driver by any chance? If yes, what version?

PS: I don't recommend you install the IRST Driver if you're not running on a RAID setup.

 

No error msg. Just lag and no start menu/taskbar icons (I also think it doesn't even load the startup progs. I tried to run Bootracer and got no response)
I did install IRST. Kinda burnt out right now and can't figure out the version, but It'll be from the last couple months. Since I'm not using RAID, I'll turf it and see what happens

 

Have TeamViewer installed. I'll login to your laptop tomorrow and have a look *if j00 want*

 

Do you have a HDD or an SSD boot drive? I've experienced something similar before when my ancient Samsung SSD was having trouble navigating bad blocks.

 

I'm booting off an SSD (128gb Transcend M2). Health wise it is supposedly 100%

 

Checked with CrystalDiskInfo? If it helps at all, when it happened to me the number of bad sectors showed up on there for me. If not on there, then on Hard Disk Sentinel.

 

Try running memtest, maybe it's the RAM.

 

@Token CDN: If you get into windows, run troubleshooting tool for BSOD? Well, it could be video card drivers either intel or Nvidia. If your NV driver is 378.78 it has the same bug that causes start menu and crashes Windows Explorer process.

 

I'm pretty sure it ain't a HW issue. My laptop will run perfectly fine if the boot issue doesn't occur

Possible it could be a driver problem. I've uninstalled IRST, and had to rollback my Intel GFX driver due to rendering issues in Libreoffice. Otherwise all of my drivers are the one Acer provides - except for Nvdia (381.someting) and audio (I'm using an older version that still has the option to disable power management so my speakers aren't popping)