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    Are you happy with XP and skipping Vista for MS next OS release?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by TeeJay 44, Aug 9, 2007.

  1. TeeJay 44

    TeeJay 44 Notebook Deity

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    The Vista debate is quite old now. Pros and cons. XP is sorted as an OS. Reliable, familiar, user and resource friendly. I see no point for me to upgrade? to an OS now which looks prettier than XP but is not necessarily an improvement.

    I will rather wait to see if MS next offering in a few years time is a step in the right direction. Maybe MS will have learn't by then to put the consumer first and give us something flexible, reliable and suitable for both experienced MS users and new customers. They have years to get it RIGHT before the next OS release.

    Personally, I believe Vista is like a hooker waiting on a street corner. Beautiful and dressed to kill. It/she will initially excite you more your than wife/partner/girlfriend in the short term. Give it a little while and you will return to what has been good to you in the long run. And then apologise for what it's worth.

    For me, XP rules until MS sorts itself out. (Sorry for the analogy. It's the best way I think I can describe my MS thoughts)

    Regards,
    Theo
     
  2. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    I agree too. I don't really like the way Vista looks, and XP is fast and stable for me so why bother to upgrade.

    I mean if I was getting a new laptop, I would prolly try and stick with Vista since it came with the computer. But I'm not gonna be going out of my way right now to purchase a Vista DVD and install in on my current machine.
     
  3. rhetor

    rhetor Notebook Consultant

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    Unless you are running a MAC or Linux, we are all at the mercy of the altar of Bill Gates . . . we send to him our financial offerings for purchase to Redmond and he metes out security and other updates for years . . . keeping us suckling on his hind teat for years . . . and that is just XP since 2001!!!! Why can't it all be fixed in 6 years since its release . . . we NEED him to update us.

    I am still running ME (the worst operating system since Gates helped develop TRS-DOS) on one old machine, just because I would be required to buy a new copy of XP to put on it . . . I still feel he owes me a refund for ME! No more ME updates now . . . the teat has dried up.

    On my new dv9500t machine I am running VISTA. No problems so far and better eye candy than XP. I invested in Vista this time simply because I know they will put much more energy in that teat and will soon begin treating XP like they did ME as soon as XP came out . . . they just didn't care anymore.

    Like now . . . no more support of the Office Professional XP productivity software . . . which through fixes they finally got right . . . but now I have to have Office 2007 because once they got Office XP right, repackage and sell it back to the same loyal customer and stop upgrading what finally worked.

    When Steve Jobs get real on the price, only then will definitely buy a MAC . . . if they are still around.

    So I run Vista on the new machine, XP on a two-year old machine, and ME on a five-year-old machine . . .

    Using Vista now on the new machine and for the forseeable future . . . until they get it running well and stop supporting it too in order to sell me what they finally have fixed, repackaged and with a new name requiring more memory. Why Vista now? Only because it has the best attention and energies of Remond's sofware demigods.

    Perhaps another software god will come along and we can worship there instead of Redmon . . . maybe Paducah, Kentucky . . . or Talapoosa, Alabam . . . and that god will be better to his faithful technosapiens.

    Perhaps you could add a third vote option since an affirmative for VISTA calls me to "love Vista." I love Vista about as much as Lamasil pills for toenail fungus. Not lovely, but necessary if you need a cure.

    I need an OS . . . so how about another vote choice:

    "I will tolerate Vista until they fix it and repackage it as another OS to resell to me or until some brilliant guy usurps Bill's throne with a better product I can sacrife to."

    ;)
     
  4. baddogboxer

    baddogboxer Notebook Deity

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    XP unless I buy a notebook and have to get Vista.
     
  5. AppendixMan

    AppendixMan Notebook Consultant

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    It's funny how when XP came out everybody was saying the same things, ie "I will never upgrade" , "XP is ugly and pointless" etc... In my opinion Vista is the way to go.
     
  6. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    I can wait. I'm not going to go out and buy an unstable, resource hog when I have XP. Like stated earlier, only if I buy a new laptop and would have no other choice but to use Vista (but even that's a maybe). Just don't see the point in running to the store to buy it...
     
  7. TeeJay 44

    TeeJay 44 Notebook Deity

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    Agreed. However XP still had all the stuff in the usual places.
     
  8. sasanac

    sasanac Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not going to use the next Microsoft OS if what has been said about it so far is true.. it sounds very much like a server based OS to me rather than a standalone system.

    To quote Bill Gates from a Newsweek interview when he was asked to clarify what he meant by the next version of Windows being more user-centric...

    "That means that right now when you move from one PC to another, you've got to install apps on each one, do upgrades on each one. Moving information between them is very painful. We can use Live Services to know what you're interested in. So even if you drop by a [public] kiosk or somebody else's PC, we can bring down your home page, your files, your fonts, your favorites and those things. So that's kind of the user-centric thing that Live Services can enable."

    I don't like that idea one bit.. If files are on Microsofts server (all the things Bill Gates is talking about files, fonts, favourites) What happens if your internet connection goes down? I like the security of knowing my files are on my computer and where I can access them at any time, plus I know exactly where they are too! I couldn't say the same if they were on a Microsoft server somewhere. With fonts it could cause legal issues too with regards to licencing etc.

    Also if the future is subscribing to use online applications who is going to host them and what happens if demand exceeds supply? I know at the moment, unless something goes very badly wrong, when I double click my Photoshop/Illustrator/OpenOffice icons the programs run and I can use them. Can they guarantee that if they are online?

    It also sounds like they are also trying to move more towards subscription to applications and even the OS itself ( http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070722-2010-a-windows-7-odyssey.html). <-- thanks to TwilightVampire for that link which I copied from this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2210583#post2210583

    Too many big questions for me I'm afraid.. I'm sticking with Vista and if all the above happens then it will be the last Microsoft OS I buy.
     
  9. Algus

    Algus Notebook Deity

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    Total agreement sasanac...when I read that it made me very nervous. If it was a live service that was something I could sign up for (although I doubt I'd pay for it) then I might use it, but I don't want it interfering with my machine when I'm at home in front of it.

    I'd rather you just gave me a big old thumb drive and let me put all my files on that then trust on the reliability of the Internet.
     
  10. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    Basically going to stick with XP until next computer gets brought...

    At that point whatever Microsofts latest OS will I guess be what I use when I have to use Windows stuff... Ubuntu rest of the time.
     
  11. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    MS is just trying to piss of the tech groupies and find out how far they can take it for the next OS. If there is a huge public backlash (which I am seeing right now) they'll probably back down.

    I think they tried subscriptions a long time ago and that was quickly dropped due to complaints.

    I'm scared for the day that MS refuses to activate new copies of XP (as in when I reinstall it on a machine if I can). All they have to do it cut the power to that server and we'll all be screwed into Vista...
     
  12. minimalism

    minimalism Notebook Geek

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    ^ If they do that, it'll only increase the already rampant piracy of XP. The only folks who switch to Vista at that point will be the ones who stay legal, don't switch to Linux, or hop to OSX.

    With regards to the thread title, I'm easily sticking with XP for the foreseeable future. There's absolutely no reason for me to use Vista over my current operating system. Unless Vista goes through some serious improvements in the next few years, my next OS will either be Win7, Xubuntu, or OSX.
     
  13. TeeJay 44

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    My feelings exactly.
     
  14. ZT3000!

    ZT3000! Notebook Evangelist

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    Where's the option for "Don't love either, but I'm stuck with Vista/XP for now for some reason or another".

    :p
     
  15. Dijo John

    Dijo John Notebook Geek

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    Comparing 6-year old xp to 6-month old Vista is ridiculous.

    xp is an outdated OS and looks like an ancient relic. It got to be done away with.

    If anybody thinks that Vista offers nothing new compared to xp, they are misinformed.

    It's a much better OS appearance-wise, feature-wise and security-wise.
    If there are compatibility issues with certain software/hardware, it's upto the concerned company to make sure their product is Vista compatible.

    Few bugs are part and parcel of any new OS and the issues with Vista will be resolved with the upcoming servcie pack. The "performance and reliability pack" that's out already, is a step in the right direction.
     
  16. Algus

    Algus Notebook Deity

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    I think the point from my other thread on Vista stands. People aren't going to upgrade to a new OS only to have to find new programs and applications to use because their old ones (that they like, have, and know how to use) don't work with the new OS. They will simply choose NOT to upgrade.

    It's all well and good to say software developers need to deal with it, but they'll find they don't have to deal with it at all if the consumers aren't getting the new OS. If Microsoft believes that they don't need to consider legacy support then they will lose their control over the market very quickly.