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    222 Operational Errors in Event Viewer

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by AM Radio, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. AM Radio

    AM Radio Notebook Evangelist

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    whoa.

    check this out -- what does it mean? just dug this up in Event Viewer. i've had errors every day that i've had the computer on. and why is the first error date from APRIL 2008, when my notebook wasn't even made?

    clicking on these don't give me much info -- or i'm not looking for it correctly. any ideas?

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  2. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    It is probably the left over when they created your system from a master drive.

    Clear the log, and check it again later.

    cheers ...
     
  3. AM Radio

    AM Radio Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks for the reply.

    what do you make of the others though? those warnings start from the date/hour of my fresh install to now.
     
  4. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    Can you post the actual error codes and/or contents for the boot performance monitoring/shutdown performance monitoring events. I think these are things like "application is taking more than 30 secs to clean up" or stuff like that.

    They are probably associated with a few different programs, which may need to be troubleshooted (errr.. troubleshot? lol) individually.

    Do you get a new set of entries when you boot and shutdown respectively, every time?
     
  5. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Also, to get a little more info on those log entries based on the Event ID, try this website, which will summarize by Event ID number. Keep in mind, many different types of errors can throw up a single Event ID number, so that number alone will not be sufficient to tell you what the error is. For example, here's the listing for Event ID 109 and here's 200.
     
  6. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    The diagnostics>Performance - Operational Log is a scary place for most people. Everything in it is a warning or error and it uses frightening words like CRITICAL a lot.

    Word to the wise --don't worry about it. It can be somewhat useful for diagnosing system bottlenecks but the long and short of it is that on a perfect system with screaming hardware you will still get warnings.

    Focusing briefly on the EventID column

    100 class errors are start up errors/warnings,which means that in Windows opinion something took longer to load than expected or something did not load

    200 class errors are shutdown errors/warnings,which means that in Windows opinion something took longer to shutdown or unload than expected or something did not load

    300 class errors are standby or hibernate errors/warnings, which means that in Windows opinion something took longer to load or unload while entering standby than expected or something did not load or unload

    The listings are all times (in milliseconds) something took to happen and most of them don't matter much unless your crazy OC trying to get the fastest boot time in the history of computing.
     
  7. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    You need to either double-click on them, or simply scroll down in the Event Viewer main window to see detailed infomration about the conditions being referenced. But, yes, I agree with Gerry, in most cases the answer is to not worry about the errors from performance monitoring, unless your machine does exhibit problems. In the latter case, the performance log may give you some clues, if you know what to look for... ;)

    Boot Peformance and Shutdown Performance error usually are Vista whining about either the boot or shutdown taking a couple of milliseconds longer than it expected, which can happen due to all sorts of entirely harmless conditions.
     
  8. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    Yeah, the above posters are correct, these are totally harmless events if you are not noticing any delays in shutdown or startup times... definitely don't go too crazy unless there is something locking it up for a long time.
     
  9. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    Its really only useful for extraordinary delay issues because any given program may appear then disappear from the list. If your computer takes 4 minutes to start, then it might provide something useful

    It is also worth noting that leaving your computer on overnight from Tuesday to Wednesday, when Vista performs its normal maintenance, for a couple weeks will allow Windows to reallign your files so some of these programs will be optimized for startup.

    The information form this log is culled when defrag tries to place files for faster reading.
     
  10. AM Radio

    AM Radio Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks for the replies, people. good to know that my box isn't breaking down.

    still wonder what is causing this though. my Vista isn't tweaked -- the only thing i've changed is de-schedule the defrag and opt out of the experience metrics. i *just* booted up and i have two errors and three warnings .

    here's a Boot Performance Monitoring Error

    - EventData

    BootTsVersion 2
    BootStartTime 2009-01-22T16:38:38.656Z
    BootEndTime 2009-01-22T16:41:22.130Z
    SystemBootInstance 73
    UserBootInstance 66
    BootTime 65290
    MainPathBootTime 31190
    BootKernelInitTime 14
    BootDriverInitTime 2500
    BootDevicesInitTime 6068
    BootPrefetchInitTime 59104
    BootPrefetchBytes 674377728
    BootAutoChkTime 0
    BootSmssInitTime 13792
    BootCriticalServicesInitTime 463
    BootUserProfileProcessingTime 302
    BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 11
    BootExplorerInitTime 2733
    BootNumStartupApps 10
    BootPostBootTime 34100
    BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
    BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 256
    BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    BootIsDegradation false
    BootIsStepDegradation false
    BootIsGradualDegradation false
    BootImprovementDelta 0
    BootDegradationDelta 0
    BootIsRootCauseIdentified true

    and here is a Shutdown Performance Monitoring Warning

    EventData

    ShutdownTsVersion 1
    ShutdownStartTime 2009-01-22T09:28:43.652Z
    ShutdownEndTime 2009-01-22T09:28:58.196Z
    ShutdownTime 14544
    ShutdownUserSessionTime 4477
    ShutdownUserPolicyTime 0
    ShutdownUserProfilesTime 1
    ShutdownSystemSessionsTime 5979
    ShutdownPreShutdownNotificationsTime 3717
    ShutdownServicesTime 2172
    ShutdownKernelTime 4087
    ShutdownRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
    ShutdownRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    ShutdownRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
    ShutdownRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    ShutdownIsDegradation false
    ShutdownTimeChange 0


    what is the above supposed to tell me? i mean, there isn't even a service or app or dll or anything listed ...
     
  11. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, those are all time entries, most likely in milliseconds, for how long each named step in the boot process (or shutdown process) took.
     
  12. gerryf19

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    You're not going to let this go, are you?

    OK, well. First, DO NOT deschedule the defrag. Indeed, let it defrag normally by leaving your computer on overnight from Tuesday to Wednesday and disable sleep and hibernation. Do that for two weeks.

    These reports are the collected analysis of the various warnings and don't tell us too much beyond

    a) your start up took 65 seconds
    BootTime 65290

    Windows kernal and core componants took 31 seconds
    MainPathBootTime 31190

    Then we see thinks like how long in milliseconds it took various core componant categories, nothing to interesting until we see the number of startup apps (10)
    BootNumStartu Apps 10

    Then how long it took for all non c0re programs to load (34 seconds) BootPostBootTime 34100

    Nothing installed after the start

    BootIsRebootAfterInstall false


    For shudown, we see it took 14 seconds
    ShutdownTime 14544

    and now a whole lot else.

    Basically, Windows is saying "HEY LET ME FREAKING DEFRAG SO I CAN GET STARTED IN UNDER A MINUTE! STOP TWEAKING ME AND LEAVE ME ALONE!

    ;)
     
  13. Pirx

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    Sigh... Nothing is causing this; these messages are entirely normal in the operation of any Vista system. If it helps, I have about 1,700 of these messages in my log, and there is absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong with my machine, which runs fast and smooth as can be. Just let it go...

    P.S.: By the way, just for laughs, I also have messages complaining about "Desktop Window Manager is experiencing heavy resource contention", with the recommendation that "Reducing number of running programs and open windows may help resolve this condition." This is on a 2.3GHz dual-core machine with 4GB memory, and an NVIdia 7950GT-based graphics card with 512MB of memory that scores a perfect 5.9 score in Vista... :D