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    20 Seconds Windows 7 Boot

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by jackluo923, May 11, 2009.

  1. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    As some NBR users requested. Here's my video on youtube. Leave comments if you feel like it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m84V-jAKRXM

    System Configuration:
    Acer Aspire One with gateway bios mod
    -CPU: Intel Atom N270 1.6ghz with hyperthreading
    -Graphics: Intel GMA 950
    -Ram: 2x512MB (1 onboard hynix and 1 samsung DDR2 667 CL4)
    -HDD: Western Digital Scorpio Blue 160GB (1 platter hdd i think) with 65MB/s sequential read on boot files
    -1x4GB Adata Class 6 "Turbo" with 22MB/s sustained read on PCI express Jmicro multicard reader

    Optimization:
    -optimized and defragmented hdd with diskeeper premiere pro
    -lowered menu delay time
    -adjusted TCIP max half open to 50 (I know it breaks HTML regulations and puts strains on servers, but that's the only way to fully use my 30Mbit/s connection).


    Features:
    Full aero enabled
    Adobe CS3 Master Collection Suite
    Microsoft Office Ultimate + Outlook
    Microsoft Encarta 2009 + Microsoft Math
    Internet Explorer 8
    Foobar 2000
    Kmplayer
    small apps not worth mentioning

    Windows Experience Index:
    Processor: 2.2
    Memory: 4.4
    Graphics: 2.2
    Gaming Graphics: 3.0
    Primary HDD: 5.4
     
  2. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    is that SSD or mechanical ? i didnt look at the vid though?
     
  3. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The storage medium is the stock 160GB WD Scorpio Blue. The boot files are probably accessed at around 65MB/s sequential read speed. That probably one of the major reason why it started up so quickly.
     
  4. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    funny how it's even slower than that on my ssd's :)

    win7 must've knew i don't like it :) (but then it should even boot faster to prove i'm wrong :))
     
  5. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    :confused: i boot around 7 sec ... like 10 right now due to a driver issue im to lazy to fix

    i have an SSD
     
  6. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Which SSD do you have? What's its sequential read speed?
     
  7. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i tested on a raid0 of mtrons, having around 220MB/s read speed. 0.1ms random access time, and SLC, so quite good write performance, too (which shouldn't matter much for boot time).


    edit: i could try RC1 soon, as i consider a reinstall of vista. maybe i'll go to 64bit now, and i've messed up my setup anyways (i installed the adobe suite.. *shudder* i'll never do _ that_ again iehk).
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    win 7 is optimized for SSD and its great ..... i have an ocz vertex ...220 read not sure the write
     
  9. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I installed Adobe Suite and I have no problem at all.

    BTW... for faster laptop or desktop, hdd read speed will become a bottleneck. For my netbook, the CPU is the bottleneck thus I wouldn't be able to boot as quickly as possible.
     
  10. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    First: vista installation: 8min. adobe suite full installation: 1.5h (that shows adobe suite is ... big? :))

    Second: after adobe suite installation, the soundcard driver from time to time hangs (and with it all audio apps. as you may know, i'm a dj and learning some production stuff. having all audio apps crash at once is no fun :)), and won't even allow reboots anymore.
    sometimes, shutdown just doesn't work.

    but it may be as it wasn't a legal version (it wasn't for me, and i'm happy to get rid of it anyways, as i got 100% legal myself during the last years since i make money by working :))



    edit: and i've tested win7 on the desktop. that's a quadcore 4x2.4ghz, 4gb ram, 2x 64gb ssd in raid0. no clue if cpu or disk is bottleneck, there :)
     
  11. chris72983

    chris72983 Newbie

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    Sorry for such newb questions:
    Im running a basically stock computer just like yours but have upgraded the ram to 1.5gb and loaded Windows 7. From everything I have read about checking if Hyper Treading is running, it appears not to be running. How can I tell for sure? I also have installed diskeeper, (have it running in auto), and have installed ebooster and have it set to the recommendations set by the program. While the ebooster seems to be helping opening and closing programs, my boot times are around 50 seconds. Any help in setting up ebooster &diskeeper for better usage and also speeding boot times would be great. Also what is meant by (65MB/s sequential read on boot files)?
     
  12. timesquaredesi

    timesquaredesi MagicPeople VooDooPeople

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    my dv7t boots in about a minute and a half and it's perfectly fine with me :)
     
  13. Amnesiac

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    The reason your netbook boots so easily is because I suspect it has less hardware to load, or less complicated drivers to load.

    But touche, you have done well.
     
  14. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    I did enable under msconfg at boot tab and advanced button dual core and went from 39 seconds to 33-34 seconds from power button to desktop. This is with 9 seconds of that being bios boot up before windows starts loading.
     
  15. davepermen

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    interesting, as this option is just there for developers to test the system on SLOWER systems (a.k.a. by reducing the amount of cores)
     
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    When I opened it it was defaulted to 1 core. I also tried the Max memory but that made 2.97GB available of my 4GB so I lost that one..........
     
  17. davepermen

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    here it's default to max. no clue how it can fallback to lower settings, that's interesting. but sure, enabling the max amount of cores you have gives the fastest boot.
    why it wasn't on max is a good question. maybe some bug of the RC?
     
  18. TANWare

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    ooops updated sig, had HP but still had RC there. I am on Asus's windows 7 upgrade disc so not a retail upgrade disk. I have not upgraded my other systems yet though.........
     
  19. davepermen

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    well, i see that the default option in the listbox is 1, but the default setting is not enabled => it defaults to the max the system has.

    so it still should't matter at all.
     
  20. TANWare

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    it seems to matter for mine, why I don't know as we can't see task manager durring boot. I timed the boot several times just no be sure too........

    Edit; I tred the uncheck box on proccessors and it boots at the 33-34 seconds. So you are right there. When I first opened it the box was checked and 1 core was the selection though. I never enabled this though either so something is amiss..........
     
  21. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes... netbook boot somewhat faster because of less hardware. Bios screen only takes about 1 or 2 seconds max.
     
  22. davepermen

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    definitely. so there is some truth to this mythical tweak that spreaded around the web like fire..

    why ever the config on your system was wrong, is now the new myth :)

    hate you for your bios :) my desktop (quadcore) idles around 7-10 seconds on the bios only (without having raid on anymore)... windows then loads fast, but the bios is terrible.
     
  23. TANWare

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    My bios screen is 8-9 seconds. But such be life..........
     
  24. davepermen

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    i'd love an instant bios: no bios screen at all. if you want to get into it, hold some button, like f.e. escape, while turning the thing on.
     
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    many bios have settings that disable splash and info screens. Look.
     
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    Yes, and also look if "Quick Boot" or something along those lines is enabled in the BIOS.
     
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    Phoenix BIOS. :)
     
  28. bmwnick

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    mines right around 30-35 seconds nothing special done to it
     
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    Same here.
     
  30. davepermen

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    next machine will be custom built, so i'll look out for fast bios. when the bios takes half of the time to desktop, you start to care about it's performance :)
    i guess i5 will it be. actually a backstep from the quadcore :)

    allready on :(

    mine doesn't :(