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    iPhone batteries have come a long way!

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    I remember the days when I used to be a BlackBerry fan, the days of the Bold 9700 in particular which had a battery that would last you easily 2 days and I still remember how on forums, members used to mock people with iPhone 3 and 4 saying things like "If you're going to buy an iPhone, make sure you buy 3 charges with it, one for home, one for the office, and one for your car", it was that bad.


    Then things started advancing slowly, I then switched to many Android phones, mostly from Samsung and the issue with Samsung phones is they have this strange and horrible standby time, like you would charge the phone to 100%, not touch it, after an hour it's already down to 90% and yes I do turn off background apps that I don't need and do all the tweaks you could think of.


    Last phone I had was the Note 10 Plus and while the battery life is great largely due to the fact the battery capacity itself is large (4300mAH), I was blown away with the battery life of my iPhone 11 Pro!


    With my moderate usage, the battery easily lasts me 3 days, the standby time is also out of this world. Just last night I charged my phone to 100% and slept, I woke up and found out that I received around 3 emails and a few WhatsApp messages but the phone battery was still at 100%! The standby time on these iPhones is just insane!


    I also love how much more control iOS gives you in terms of background apps which is an easy to find setting in the Settings section under General and more importantly how easy it is to define location services access (as in Allow Location Always, while app is running, or Never), I think that also contributes to the amazing battery life.


    I love the fact that I can go out and not think twice about battery life or that I need to take my charger with me!


    Android, with all its improvement over the years both in Software and Hardware in the latest phones, has a long way to go to reach this kind of battery life in both usage and standby time.


    The other amazing thing is that iPhones do this with a smaller battery capacity on paper as well!
     
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    iPhone idle standby is amazing and just like Nokia 3310 and basically all Nokia's.
    The iphone pro should last a week in absolute standby and in proper usage should last around 2-2.5 days.
    Whatsapp is the #1 battery drain after Chrome. I've reverted my WP 10 to Wp8.1 Denim and battery life was much better than 2 days to 7 days.
    Even with stock Android, I'm seeing 1-2% idle drain with VOLTE enabled and w/o VoLTE the drain is just 0.5-1%. But, I want VoLTE for superior audio clarity and on heavy mobile data usage the battery life gets hit by 1-3% for 4GB and 10% drain anything 4GB plus! download through portable hotspot.
    One thing I'll suggest you with any Samsung phone is their Samsung Experience or OneUI skin is a battery hog and is somewhat a garbage in my eyes since you can't figure out why battery drains! Once I uninstalled it through adb and switched to Pixel Experience app, my dad's S7 which used to last 3 hrs now lasts 6-7 hrs even with 67-75% battery health.
     
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    Yep I fully agree, this is the sole purpose I shelled out £1k for an 11 pro max, my battery life is LONG AF bro, watched a movie on netflix which was 1 hour and 30 minutes long, I only lost 4% of battery from 100%, what kind of alien technology is this apple?!

    Samsung (more like sam dung) phones are USELESS, my s10 plus lasted me 4 hours and 30 minutes on constant use. I'm sorry but what the **** IS THAT! Is that a phone or an ipod, I just can't take samsung seriously anymore, they always mock apple and guess what they end up copying them, plus the software becomes so laggy after a year it just pisses me off using it, I can tell you, I have never raged using an iPhone but if it came to a Samsung there is high probability I will snap it in half!!!!

    The flaw essentially is android itself, as it functions like a computer, background tasks and all the cpu and ram are under constant use. Samsung also have their own features which consume some battery too. Personally I had (no more....) always liked samsung but the software is an abomination, I wish I could go back to the cyanogenmod days where android phones could last just as long as iphones nowdays!

    The real reason behind huwaei's amazing battery life is aggressive ram management and amazing OS optimisation without a **** load of features that 3/4 of the users wont use anyway. I believe that is the way forward unless qualacomm (as well as samsung) gets its finger out its *** and makes the architecture way more power efficient. Otherwise there is no way architecturally qualacomm can outright beat apple.

    Safe to say, if I EVER buy an android phone it will be either a google pixel or a oneplus phone as they run stock android which is the way to go.
     
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    ROFL! This sentence made my day! :D

    Everything you said is spot on particularly about Samsung, it has 10s of crap running in the background like ANT+ Radio, tracking stuff and spyware, the list goes on, no wonder it drains battery like so fast even when you aren't touching it.

    See:

     
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    Did you watch Netflix in HDR @1080p? If so, the battery life is amazing and magical!
    I don't get HDR in phones since they crank up the brightness to max. and is it how HDR works?
    You should be good with any Android One phones certified by Google. I'm using a Nokia and I barely use it and yields me 3-4 days even with constant hotspot usage.
    I think everyone is aware of Samsung phone's hardware being top notch but limited by SW.
     
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    Yeah bro it was HDR, the phone brightness went WAAAAY up when I loaded the movie lol. Burning my eyes with that 800 nit brightness :D

    can’t complain though, the speakers are amazing, better volume and bass than a laptop (looking at you Alienware).... although surround is much better on Samsung phones.
     
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    800 nits on Samsung Panel? Didn't they advertise 1000+ nits on similar AMOLED last year?
    Is 560 nits good enough from LG IPS from a 300$ phone? The brightness is way more than my AW junk @220nits with 85-90% coverage!
     
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    1200+ nits peak brightness for like 10 seconds yeah. Maybe it can do 1000 nits. We have to remember (as much as I hate Samsung phones) that Samsung makes great amoled and oled panels that only LG can just about match. I’m glad that Apple sources Samsung panels for the max variants as they are always superior to the smaller brothers lol.
     
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    But I dunno why I prefer LG's OLED over Samsung. My eyes get burned looking at Samsung panel and I always changed color profile to Cool or cinema mode which often gets reverted back to Adaptive after a reboot. So, I always set to min-brightness on Samsung. With iPhone using Samsung AMOLED the screen didn't burn my eyes and it was pleasant to use for longer and color accuracy was great!
     
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    Yeah of course lol, Apple uses their own colour profile which I like. It’s like comparing Nvidia to AMD in the colour accuracy department, most people recommended AMDs colour palette over Nvidias as it seems more natural. I believe that to be true also :D
     
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    I hope you will charging your iToy before the third day. Run it empty is the same as killing the battery before time. Remember the wll known throttling patch will come and hunt after you before you know :D
     
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    have you not an iToy since years? :rolleyes: You bash their products [​IMG] yet only use their phones. Go figure. [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, I’m on my 4th iToy. And I don’t run the battery flat before I charge it up :) I like the size and the screen. And the camera is good as well. Other brands phones ain’t much better. So enjoy your new toy, bruh. Remember it’s the only product worth buying from Apple.
     
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    I agree, iPhone has excellent battery life. They should, since Apple has full control over OS and does not let anyone to force them to install crap.

    Samsung modified their Android version to the point it NEEDS at least 3000mAh to get decent battery life. I have Galaxy S9+, not only I have various Samsung apps which I cannot remove unless I root - I also cannot remove some Google apps which Samsung is forced to keep on the phone because they use Play Store. Samsung is even forcing people to keep Facebook which I can disable but not remove. Plus Samsung heavily modifies their own launcher with fancy graphical effects. All of this consumes battery power all the time, even if you will start to manually disable and restrict data usage for all those apps.

    That's not really an issue with Android in general, though, just the way some manufacturers abuse it. Google themselves do it on Pixel phones, though not as bad as Samsung.
     
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    This reminds me, I always disable Facebook and install an app called Metal Pro which basically is way lighter on the battery AND you can access Facebook Chat directly as if you were on a browser without the need to install the Facebook Messenger. Now, what I noticed is even if I disabled the Facebook App, when I checked with Package Disabler Pro, I noticed there are many Facebook services running in the background (not the app itself) just to give you an example, alongside with services that track you for advertising and usage habits.

    My biggest pet peeve with Samsung phones although I like their phones when it comes to Android in terms of specs like screen and camera, the amount of bloatware when you first turn on a phone is insane, you have double apps of everything, Samsung Notes/Google Keep, Bixby/Google Assistant, Chrome/Samsung Browser, etc. it's a mess scattered all over the place and without Package Disabler Pro or Rooting you're stuck with them as they cannot be disabled.
     
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    There is a reason, security. I know and you know for a fact it’s the most secure OS and phone made. I am glad that google isn’t tracking EVERYTHING that I’m doing now. They got caught tracking on iPhones without permission. I hope never again...

    I trust Apple more than Google I wonder why :D
     
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    Of course it is more secure than the old models. But how long was Adam in paradise? :vbbiggrin:

    New 'Unpatchable' iOS Exploit Could Allow for a Permanent Jailbreak for iPhone

    With every new iOS release, the jailbreak community picks up some heat. Now, a security researcher has released an exploit which could allow for a permanent jailbreak for iPhone. The exploit is claimed to be a “permanent unpatchable bootrom exploit” oriented towards the iPhone 4s to the iPhone X. If the news entices you, let’s dive in to see some more details on the matter.

    The surprising element of the exploit is that Apple cannot patch it by rolling out another iOS release. In addition to this, it will give the device permission to downgrade even though Apple stops signing iOS builds. This is one of the biggest elements that the exploit will carry which users could put to use. Here’s how axi0mX explains it:
     
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    Damn, I remember jail breaking my iPhones and iPods and doing it for people at school. It was good pay looool. First there was quickpwn, (another famous one here that I keep forgetting...) then evasion and now we are at pangu and yalu I guess.

    Anyway, I’m surprised the iPhone XS and Xs max can’t be jail broken yet. I’m actually surprised.

    Having an exploit at hardware level is crazy for Apple, kudos to the person who found it, I’m glad I don’t have an iPhone X. That was the first iPhone I actually didn’t use or buy due to the wide ‘striped’ screen issues and at the time I was broke...
     
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    I thought nvidia's color profile was true color and found it to be false since nvidia forums sugarcoat everything and it took me 3 years to realise nvidia color profile is more saturated and kills my eyes.

    Telemetry collection is much worse on iPhones than on Android. You'll see Several GBs of telemetry data if you use only mobile data frequently than Wifi. You really need to check PhoneClean from iMobie and 3utools and see the amount of Phone storage being wasted on telemetry data!
     
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    Welcome to Apple ScratchGate :D You remember the BendGate?

    iPhone 11 Owners Are Complaining About Display Scratches Appearing out of the Blue, Despite Having Cared for Them wccftech.com | Oct 08, 2019

    When the 2019 iPhones were revealed, Apple bragged about the fact that the iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max’s Super Retina XDR is the most advanced display ever in an iPhone. The company also claimed that the duo has the toughest glass ever on a smartphone. However, it’s been barely weeks since the release of the latest range and online forums are already flooded with complaints about iPhone 11 display scratches.

    Not so sure a good battery will offset this new... Gate. But everything can be covered with a Nice phone Case.
     
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    As my iPhone 11 pro max is. Can you believe I spent £1k on a Xs max last year and didn’t even buy a single case or screen protector for it. People said I’m crazy, I said I like the feel of the device. Dropped it many times and somehow it didn’t break. Then a couple of weeks before the 11 pro max launch it unfortunately got caught between my vw golf door when I was closing it. Guess what. The back and front were shattered into oblivion, the phone was bent so much that the screen has a fisheye lens effect to it. Would you believe that the oled screen survived, Apple have REALLY stepped up the game. If my iPhone display can withstand a aluminium/steel door smashing into it I’m pretty sure the new ones have no problem :D

    I’m glad the screen was oled, as you know oled is somewhat actually flexible unlike amoled and lcd.
    It’s how those gimmicky angled tv’s were made, remember the craze around those :D :D :D

    BTW: the back was so shattered that all the glass came off regardless of adhesive, now THATS A LOT OF CRACKS! Gives an advantage to replace the back glass to whoever bought the phone of me via feebay!
     
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    Well, your iPhone with Aluminum and Steel body withstood the trauma.
     
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    Let's give credit, where credit is due: as far as I know Aplle doesn't make phone screens, it was probably made by Samsung, LG or Japan Display.
     
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    Guess if we're passing our credit it should go to Corning's Gorilla Glass?
     
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    First to be used on the iPhone 2G Amen bro. Corning really changed the game from those cheap ass plastic displays
     
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