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    Some Nokia 7 Plus phones in Europe were sending user info to China

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    A nothing story meant to bolster sentiment of backdoors in hardware sending info to China.

    This was a batch of phones that was meant for a different country, a registration app for Qualcomm, a Chinese company, with publicly accessible github code, all done roughly above board, that is being used to fuel the China spying accusations by the US government to prevent adoption of Huawei telecom equipment, which they have the largest market share for telecom equipment, the most 5G patents of any company, and the cheapest prices on the equipment. This is contrasted with companies like Cisco working with US Intelligence agencies to send out compromised equipment to allow them to spy, along with compromised software, as shown in the Snowden leaks.

    Troubling, yes. But look for the real purpose of this article and its obvious on the face of it what the goal was.

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    Sure, from a person that likely isn't following the Huawei issue. Huawei has been banned in the US for nearly a decade. In the summer of 2017, the Five Eyes met to discuss how to prevent Huawei during the 5G rollout.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
    https://gizmodo.com/five-eyes-spy-chiefs-agreed-to-contain-huaweis-global-r-1831131906

    From there, the story was fished to Bloomberg about chips being installed in hardware, even though no sources were cited, Amazon, Apple, SuperMicro, and the audit company denounced the article, and the information was provided BY US INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS off the record.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...-america-s-top-companies?srnd=businessweek-v2
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...cked-supermicro-hardware-found-in-u-s-telecom (Israeli Intelligence official now in private sector saying they found it, while publishing NO TECHNICAL DETAILS)
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...k-amazon-apple-supermicro-and-beijing-respond


    Then you have US pressure on Norway and EU countries overall:
    https://ca.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idCAKCN1P31LJ-OCATC
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47533516
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/7048...many-refuses-to-exclude-huaweis-5g-technology
    http://fortune.com/2019/03/12/germany-u-s-huawei-intelligence/
    https://www.telecompaper.com/news/nato-warns-germany-over-using-huawei-for-5g-network--1285009

    But, sure, this isn't about US intelligence wanting to keep their existing back doors from US telecom companies open and get information readily by large US firms like Facebook and Google, or to benefit US economic interests as a ban on Huawei equipment would directly and primarily benefit US firms and Sony-Erickson. Couldn't have anything to do with money and the US ability to spy. It really is about security. Wink Wink.

    Or do you want to talk about how 5G is less secure than 4G and 3G? That is a conversation worth having as well.

    And that is before discussing how the Huawei CFO arrest was a political arrest, or the arrest of their head of sales in Poland, which got less press, but did happen.

    Do you want me to go on? It seems you are ill-informed on the topic. Hell, look up their phones alone. The specs actually are as good or better than Apple and Samsung, neutral reviewers rank their phones higher, and they cost 2/3 to 1/2 for similarly spec'ed hardware on their flagship phones. Or look up their cost of switches on Alibaba or similar chinese sites. It makes the cost of similar US based setups look astronomical for the same functionality.

    So what makes more sense? You can decide for yourself. But you know where I fall on the line. Maybe if the US provided ACTUAL PROOF OF CLAIMS I would change my mind. But they haven't. Instead, just strong rhetoric in statements with no proof given to back up their claims.
     
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    I was referring to the op and the entire huawei bull....
     
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    My bad.

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    No problem. I’m in your camp on this one. Ever since the orange snot rocket has been in power they have been crowing about huawei. Time to put up or shut up. Give us proof of the massive data grab going on.
     
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