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    Bots reading texts for marketing etc, creepy

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by hertzian56, Aug 3, 2021.

  1. hertzian56

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    I was texting someone last week for a dentist recommend, then a week later I get a mailer for a local dentist so bots must be reading texts for marketing/data profiteering. I've never got any mailer specifically addressed to me for anything like that, sure credit offers from banks I've done business with but that's it. Feels so invasion of privacy but that's the norm now I guess, we're farmed tbh. Alternately I was searching online and I may have left my gmail logged in, which I do rarely, I only use it on my phone for the most part. But this is so specific it's just creepy to me. And many many websites require a phone number verification now even specialty ones, many apps also require number verification thus leaking more info to marketers, not to mention phones are our personal minders for ptb tbh. What a feeding frenzy by greedsters, disaster.
     
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    LMAO!

    coincidence more likely.

    If you want to evade most of the junk out there use a VPN / throw away Google Voice #

    2FA though is a PITA as for some reason this is expected to be a better option than answering specific questions or a random number generator FOB. Security like this doesn't prevent breaches though.

    There's always that 1 point of attack that allows for your info to be disclosed and it's usually human. Unless you're keen on security and know the approaches that are made they likely just blindly click on things and answer questions posed w/o verifying their source.
     
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    Oh I highly doubt it's a coincidence there's just too much specificness to it all, I hardly ever get mail addressed to me that's not bank or financial related and never targeted stuff. No google voice numbers don't work for phone verification, I've tried it with apps, websites etc never get the code sent, or comes back as invalid number. VPN not worth it for just that and I'm not that concerned but this is just annoying.
     
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    Interesting. Was it just a bog standard text? That would mean that either the carrier or something on your phone leaked the information. I would think the carrier is unlikely to be the culprit here. Either the messaging app directly, or an app with access to your messages would be credible culprits IMHO. Use Signal if possible.
     
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    I just use whatever this s5 came with for texting I think the samsung one. It's most likely an app, of which I only have less than 10 and use about 2 consistently. I did install then uninstall one app briefly after it asked for another phone verification text and an email just to use it, nope.
     
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    Hmm, weird. Sounds like either Samsung or indeed the carrier decided to monetize your text.
     
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    I guess. I've used this phone for a couple of years with the same carrier and have never had such a targeted with my name mailer, it's so out of the ordinary is why I posted this and I've definitely read elsewhere on forums that this is a thing, but of course google makes it hard to get any real info or not just info for these scum on how to do it. Getting real people's real experience and opinions is getting very hard on the net now.
     
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    Well, actually, sometimes the simplest answer is the corect one: the text went through some core Google messaging API.
     
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    It's possible, like mentioned another possiblity is that I forgot that I had a gmail logged in while browsing and baddabing. Always try to isolate gmail as much as possible. Also possible that it was a new move trigger from the good old usps craptacular parade since I changed addresses, but this is a lone targeted mailer so probably not.
     
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    Not near as creepy as apple looking at every imessage and photo you take with your camera trying to find something illegal.
     
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    Really? Hadn't heard that. I'm not naive, these phones are tracking and snooping devices by PTB, cameras, microphones, location is always available to goog/apple etc, false sense of privacy with "airplane" mode or location supposedly "off". I think even if turned off they can be remotely turned on, even powered from a distance etc if the right level of interest is there in the higher ranks. The serpents know all the tricks that the average person is clueless about lol

    Oh btw
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/OPPO-makes-its-next-gen-under-screen-camera-official.553403.0.html
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yep, don't be naiv. But people are their own enemies. They'll accept everything to be able to live their modern life. Just look at how many have installed and regularly use digital cancer as Facebook, Twitter etc on all of their digital equipments.

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    Study Warns Android Phones From Samsung, Xiaomi And Others Are Spying On Users
    hothardware.com | Fri, Oct 15, 2021

    Everyone who uses an Android phone has probably had some security-conscious acquaintance ask, "don't you know how much data your phone is harvesting?" Most of us shrug it off as one of the unavoidable circumstances of modern life: you want a smartphone, you deal with data harvesting. Still, some folks aren't so willing to make that sacrifice.
     
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    I remember the second in the trilogy , The Dark Knight, where they use cell phones as sonar to get an image in 3d of rooms and it's not that crazy to me. I mean we're swimming in a pool of EM waves like has never been before in the history of the world. Light waves, sound waves etc affect us indisputably, well these other waves can and do effect us too. Even just normal tech like the under screen camera which will now be coming to samsung is concerning.


    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...ble-with-an-under-screen-camera.572928.0.html
     
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