Apple reduces speed of iPhones as batteries wear out, report suggests

I do like it's simplicity, despite having gone to the more open Android, I occasionally miss it.

 

I use Windows Mobile and take care of Androids and iphone at home. Only downside on my phone is I run out of phone memory every now and then.

 

I was a windows mobile fan. However the phone ran out of support and most everything else from MS so I moved to IOS. Has been great ever since.

 

You said that already you need iphone apps for banking & other stuffs. Only thing stopping me from buying android is they're quite bigger than iphone 4.7". I really prefer that size and I am very comfortable using it.

 

Meanwhile on iOS 11.3 beta, still no throttle disable feature or battery information from the OS. Hmm....strongly considering moving to android for several reasons:
1. iTunes is cancer
2. No more headphone jack.
3. Apple clamping down is hardware and forcing obsolescence in the form of blocking any downgrading to a usable firmware (have you tried an iPhone 5S on iOS 11?)
4. Lightning cables that die for no reason.
5. No expandable storage

Things keeping me on the iPhone platform:
1. Strongest processor and camera, easily beats any android phone out there.
2. iOS is a more secure platform than Android
3. In some rare emergency that I need to have my hardware repaired and it's a job beyond my doing, there is an apple retail store near me.

I don't know where I will be going post March 2018. My iPhone SE will turn 2 years old by then, I will have to assess replacing the battery and keeping it another two years or sell it and move to a different phone.

 

Try MS Pix app and I liked it very much than Stock Apple Camera app.
As for security, it depends on user.
Apple will not put effort into creating Headphone jack and we must carry a adapter everytime.
You can wait for new SE models or Iphone X inspired bezel-less phones.
Android now goes to neck-neck right now. Only downside to android is updates are carrier blocked sometimes unless you have Android One or Google phones.

 

Android performance is what bothers me. A11 destroys anything Samsung or Qualcomm can put out, and I think this gap will widen even further with the A12 processor. I think most of the Android manufacturers will also be going headphone jackless in the next iteration of phones, except maybe Sony, who frankly is the only android phone manufacturer I would ever consider. Stylish, high performance, low level of bloatware, lightly skinned android system, and they actually stay on top of the updates.

For all those interested, you can download iOS 11.3 beta 2 profile to get the IPSW over the air and update, it introduces the battery health beta feature. According to that, my iPhone SE battery retains 90% of its original capacity almost 2 years since it was produced, which is fairly amazing. That being said, I'm not very much of a phone user outside of calling, texting, occasional photo taking, or light internet browsing. No games, no snapchat, no bg app refresh, etc.

 

I don't use an iphone nor android. I just manage my mom's and dad's iphone and S7.
Consider rooting Android, I just root and installed Lineage14.1 on 3 yr old phone and UI feels on par with iphone 7 and trumps s7 only with 1GB RAM and 8GB phone memory.
I saw 3% wear on new iphone 7 after draining it to 0% just once.
EDIT: I thought Sony xperia had most bloatwares with KDE like heavy resource hungry UI.
If your workflow is similar you will enjoy android as well.
As a testing measure, grab some cheap Samsung android phone and ask @Raiderman and @ajc9988 for rooting android phones since they're much knowledgeable than me.
Although I prefer Samsung because it has lot of aftermarket support in terms of driver, easy root process using Odin and most of them prefer Samsung Or Xiaomi or Oneplus or others.

 

have to check out the battery info on 11.3 beta 2.

 

Hopefully they handle it better than Apple did. I want physical connections to end, but forcing it without a solid alternative is not the way to do it.

 

Apple Will Extend $29 iPhone Battery Replacement Program Beyond 2018 If Unable To Prevent Shutdown Without Throttling Output
Apple Is Considering To Extend The iPhone’s Battery Replacement Program If It’s Unable To Prevent Shutdown At Expense Of Throttle Reduction
Apple recently reported its quarterly earnings, achieving what surfaced in rumors a year back. The $1000 iPhone X made its mark, balancing a decrease in units with an increase in ASP. Now, after being grilled by the Senate sub-committee for Commerce, the company outlined new policies in a letter. Apple stands accused of slowing down older iPhones. Some, believe this intends to force users at upgrading their device. Apple, claims that it has to slow down older devices, to prevent damage to critical components.

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iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus & iPhone X Will Not Experience Performance and Battery Problems Thanks to ‘Hardware Updates’
‘Hardware Updates’ in the Latest iPhone Lineup Will Prevent Battery Problems Afflicting These Smartphones in the Coming Years
Apple was able to respond to questions requested from Senator John Thune (R-SD) in a letter that was made public. It explains that the three devices released in 2017 are not going to suffer from the same performance setbacks due to the following reason.

 

Maybe they ought to increase that period to lifetime when more throttling alg. are written and user complaint will increase and force Apple to put a Off button for every throttling alg.

 

I'm still waiting for the lawsuit that will force Apple to sign older firmwares so users can make their devices usable again.

 

I kind of doubt that will happen, if they actually were doing it to drive new sales (which I don't believe at all) they would have other ways to switch to which would render the lawsuit moot, and if they weren't then I don't think they'd lose the case.

 

Its available on 11.3 beta 2 under Settings > Battery > Battery performance/health.

 

Is this really true?

 

Apparently so, and shows up in many apps that use the underlying libs:

This new text bomb crashes most Mac and iOS apps with a single Unicode symbol
Posted 2 hours ago by Taylor Hatmaker (@tayhatmaker)
https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/15/iphone-text-bomb-ios-mac-crash-apple/

"TechCrunch has learned of a potentially serious new bug affecting a wide range of Apple devices.

During their development work on an international news feed, software engineers at Aloha Browser discovered two Unicode symbols in a non-English language that can crash any Apple device that uses Apple’s default San Francisco font. The bug instigates crashes on iPhones, iPads, Macs and even Watch OS devices that display text containing the symbol on their screens.

When one of the two symbols is displayed in an app, the software crashes immediately. In many cases, the app cannot be reopened and must be reinstalled. TechCrunch was able to recreate this behavior on two iPhones running an older version of iOS, one iPhone running iOS 11.2.5 and a MacBook Pro running High Sierra.

The bug crashes apps including Mail, Twitter, Messages, Slack, Instagram and Facebook. From our testing, it also crashed Jumpcut, a copy and paste plugin for Mac. While it initially appeared that the Chrome browser for Mac was unaffected and could safely display the symbol, it later crashed Chrome and the software would not reopen without crashing until uninstalled and reinstalled.

TechCrunch has been in touch with Apple about the potential timeline for a software fix and will update this story accordingly. According to the team at Aloha Browser, Apple is aware of the bug and it may have been reported by another development team, as well.

This is Apple’s second text bomb headache of the year. In January, software researcher Abraham Masri discovered an iOS glitch that allowed a specific URL to crash any iPhone it was texted to, sometimes resulting in a kernel panic. In 2016, another bug could crash any iPhone or the Safari browser if a user clicked the URL for CrashSafari.com. In 2015, a so-called “ Unicode of Death” could overload an iPhone’s memory using some Arabic characters. Now we’re looking at Unicode of Death 2.0.

Because so many apps are affected, the new text bomb could be used to create mass chaos if spammed across an open social platform or used to target individuals via email or messaging. The new bug affects a broad swath of Apple devices and crashes nearly any major app they run, making it particularly destructive if not resolved quickly."

 

The issue shouldn't arise at all when they actually provide Native Indian Language Keyboards than other competitors like Swiftkey,GBoard etc..

 

Apple replaced 11 million iPhone batteries in 2018, up from its usual of 1-2 million
Chance Miller - Jan. 14th 2019 9:17 pm PT
https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/14/iphone-battery-replacement-2018-total/

"Following Apple’s revision to its Q1 2019 earnings, it was revealed that Tim Cook would hold an all-hands meeting to discuss the results with Apple employees. While the majority of the details from that meeting have yet to leak, John Gruber at Daring Fireball today has an interesting tidbit.

During the all-hands meeting, Tim Cook reportedly stated that Apple replaced 11 million batteries over the duration of the $29 replacement program. During a normal year, Apple plans to replace around between 1 and 2 million batteries, Cook said during the meeting.

The $29 replacement initiative was active for almost exactly a year. This means in 2018, Apple replaced as as high as 11 times the number of batteries it usually replaces in a year.

During Apple’s all-hands meeting January 3, Tim Cook said Apple replaced 11 million batteries under the $29 replacement program, and they’d have only anticipated about 1-2 million battery replacements normally.

Gruber shared this factoid while linking to a piece from Jean-Louis Gassée on the effects of Apple’s battery program on iPhone sales. While it’s easy to argue that Apple’s battery program should have been baked into Apple’s Q1 2019 expectations, Gruber makes a good point:

My guess: the effect of the battery replacement program on new iPhone sales wasn’t apparent until after the iPhone XR and XS models were available. A few million extra iPhone users happy with the performance of their old iPhones with new batteries — who would have otherwise upgraded to a new iPhone this year — put a ding in the bottom line.

Other details from Cook’s all-hands meeting remain unclear, but hopefully, we’ll learn a bit more as time progresses."

 

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Apple fined €25 million for slowing down older iPhones


There is a school of thought that suggests many devices have built-in obsolescence. When updates to iOS started to slow down older iPhones, it seemed Apple was providing evidence to support this beliefe.

Apple said that the throttling of iPhone 6, iPhone SE, and iPhone 7 handsets was an attempt to increase the life of phones with aging -- and therefore less than perfect -- batteries. But many people felt that the move was unreasonable, including the French consumer watchdog Directorate General for Competition, Consumer Affairs and Fraud Prevention (DGCCRF) which has just handed out a €25 million ($27 million) fine.

Announcing the fine, DGCCRF says (translation courtesy of Google Translate):

These updates, released during the year 2017, included a dynamic power management system which could, under certain conditions and especially when the batteries were old, slow down the functioning of the iPhone 6, SE and 7 models. Unable to revert to the previous version of the operating system, many consumers reportedly forced to change batteries or even buy a new phone.​

Apple is not contesting the fine, and it is entirely possible that there will be more to come from other countries.

 

Re-opening this thread, threads close automatically after 1 year of inactivity.

 

Apple fined €25 million for slowing down older iPhones

 

Apple is as shady as they come. Can’t wait to pay off my tab and move to android.

 

It’s cheaper buy a battery Use what you have as long you can and don’t let them get more of your money (Apple or android doesn’t matter). People should stop upgrading to new phones each 1, 2 or 3rd year. Only massive decline in sales will push a change. Today’s phones is good enough for long time.

 

I agree, iphones are very good at return on investment. My battery is fine. In another day or so it will be back to normal. I hate them as a company, and their shady backhanded bull they do, but the iphone is the best overall phone out there as much as it pains me to say those words.

 

I have an iPhone 4s. Battery is easy to change and size is just right for the pocket. Audio performance for music is superb.

That was fast as lightning but Apple throttled the hell out of it. Finding a high-quality replacement battery at a decent price is a bit challenging. Any recommendations?

 

Try Nohon Max battery.
My Mom's iphone 7 needs battery replaced. I was looking to buy Apple battery but Nohon max battery looks superior thanks to latest battery tech. iOS 13.3.1 is taking hell lot of battery, I thought of buying iphone 11 pro or max model but mom said I'm fine with current one.

 

Apple Has Agreed to Pay $500 Million to Settle the iPhone Battery Throttling Lawsuit in the U.S. wccftech.com | Today

The batterygate controversy is about to be resolved it seems. To recap, it was discovered in 2017 that Apple limited processor speeds as the iPhone batteries aged. The Cupertino giant claimed that the motive behind the step was to prevent sudden shut downs, but received flak for keeping mum about the existence of the feature. Many filed class-action lawsuits, which were combined into one complaint in 2018. Now, the iPhone battery throttling lawsuit has reached its climax, as Apple has seemingly decided to settle things.

As a result, the current and previous American owners of the iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6s, 6s Plus, 7, 7 Plus, and SE running iOS 10.2.1 or later would receive between $25-$500. The lawyers representing the affected parties have deemed the settlement fair and adequate. Just because Apple has agreed to settle doesn’t mean the company has admitted to foul play.

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You Probably Won’t Get $25 From Apple’s iPhone Throttling Settlement Howtogeek | Today

As usual with these settlements, you’ll read a lot online about how Apple will pay you $25 per device. That’s already actually pretty low if you bought a new iPhone to replace an existing iPhone that mysteriously stopped performing well. But you’re not likely to even get that $25.

Read the fine print, per Bloomberg Law:

 

I'm not even surprised but I always thought it's because of iOS updates. Somehow I haven't noticed my SE get any slower though.

 

My 6s still skips along perfectly too.

 

Apple loses appeal in Italy over 10 million euro fine for iPhone performance throttling 9to5mac.com | Today

The new filings, discovered by setteBIT on Twitter, explain that the initial investigation was correct in its ruling that the changes to performance due to battery health should have been immediately been made known to iPhone owners. Apple added the changes without disclosing them to users through release notes.

Apple was ultimately sued in many countries for reducing the performance of devices, without notifying its customers. This issue became a prime example of ' planned obsolescence'.

 

If Your iPhone Suffered From Batterygate, You Can Get $25 as Settlement wccftech.com | Today

Owners of Apple's smartphones ranging from iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 Plus in the United States, which ran iOS 10.2.1/iOS 11.2 before December 2017 are now eligible to receive $25 in settlement from the company. This comes as a result of a $500 million class-action lawsuit regarding Batterygate that Apple agreed to settle earlier this year.

In case you don't know, Batterygate was a massive issue that made headlines around the globe. It was related to iOS 10.2.1 and iOS 11.2 software updates which enabled battery and performance management on iPhones to ensure that they do not unexpectedly shutdown when their Lithium-Ion batteries get weak. The problem was not with Apple's implementation of the feature - the problem was that Apple did not bother telling customers what it did.

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How to Claim Your Cash From Apple’s iPhone-Slowdown Lawsuit
Remember that iPhone battery throttling news back in 2017? If Apple slowed down your iPhone, you may be eligible to claim “around $25” from a $500 million lawsuit settlement.

Here’s who’s eligible, according to the settlement’s official website:

 

Time for one in Canada. Ha ha.

 

iPhone 6, 7, and SE owners: Here's how to get $25 from Apple Macworld.com | OCT 1, 2020

All claims must be received by October 6, 2020, to be considered for the settlement.

You can also opt-out of the settlement, which gives you the ability to sue Apple in the future over the same issue, or show up at a fairness hearing on December 4 to argue “the terms of the settlement.” But if you’re like us, the phone in question is long gone and you just want your money.

 

damn. Wish it was for canada as well. i could use 200 bucks towards new iphones.

 

I missed the purchase cutoff date for my old iPhone 7 Plus, but I was able to file a claim for my wife's iPhone 6s, which we just replaced last week with a second-gen SE.

 

Apple Will Pay $113 Million as Settlement for the iPhone ‘batterygate’ Investigation wccftech.com | today

Apple Has to Pay an Additional $500 Million for a Separate Lawsuit
In addition to the $113 million, Apple is required to clarify its practices around battery health and power management. Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich said the following statement on how companies should maintain transparency with its customers.



The bad news about this settlement is it wouldn’t be counted in the $500 million amount that Apple has agreed to pay directly to affected iPhone users to settle a class-action lawsuit in the U.S. This will be equivalent to paying out $25 per iPhone. To recap what happened, older iPhone models such as the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s were feeling sluggish after being updated to a new iOS version.

 

The bad news about this settlement is it wouldn’t be counted in the $500 million amount that Apple has agreed to pay directly to affected iPhone users to settle a class-action lawsuit in the U.S. This will be equivalent to paying out $25 per iPhone. To recap what happened, older iPhone models such as the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s were feeling sluggish after being updated to a new iOS version.

Obviously an apple jerk session site? the bad news it won't be counted in the 500 million? WTH is that? its great news, apple paying 115 million MORE.

 

EU sues Apple over "battery gate" and degraded phone performance sweclockers.com | Dec 3, 2020

We're being asked to be treated with the same fairness and respect as US consumers. Consumers are increasingly upset by products wearing out too quickly, the iPhone 6 models being a very concrete example of that. Consumers do not accept this kind of behavior anymore. Not only does it cause frustration and financial harm, from an environmental point of view it is also utterly irresponsible.– Els Bruggeman, Euroconsumers

 

"Programmed obsolescence": Apple is being sued again for slowing down iPhones notebookcheck.net

A consumer protection organization from Portugal accuses Apple of deliberately and deliberately slowing down older iPhones with software updates in order to induce users to upgrade to a new device - reason enough for a lawsuit. However, it is doubtful whether the allegations are true.

 

Makes sense. have one iphone 6 running IOS 10 and see what happens have another running IOS 11 and see what happens. Test the speed and battery health of each. Easy to find out if it's actually a software induced failure.

 

Apple and other phone manufacturers have exploited a market vulnerability - use fear of not updating phones as a means of forcing customers to upgrade. For older phones, it would make sense for the OEMs to make their ongoing experience untenable to the point where you raise your arms in defeat.

 

They do, then there are dummies like myself who want the newest OS version for the new features they provide. That being said, my 6s still trucks along on 14.4 quite nicely. I think it will need the battery replaced soon however. Thankfully it's an easy process in that phone.