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    All about Bezel-less and Foldable Smart Devices

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Dr. AMK, Feb 25, 2018.

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    Vivo's 'Apex' concept phone has a 'half-screen' fingerprint scanner and a retracting selfie camera
    https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...en-fingerprint-scanner-selfie-camera-mwc-2018

    One of the biggest stories out of this year’s CES, and the recipient of our Best in Show award, was a prototype phone from Vivo that showed off the world’s first in-display fingerprint scanner. This is a method of biometric authentication that could prove to be the best of all worlds — no need for bulky screen bezels, awkward rear-mounted sensors, or complex arrays of face-detection tech. That prototype later shipped in China as the X20 Plus UD, and now Vivo has brought a concept phone to MWC that represents the next evolution of that idea. It's all about figuring out how to get rid of bezels for good.

    The concept phone is called Apex, and its headline feature is what Vivo describes as “Half-Screen In-Display Fingerprint Scanning Technology.” The idea here is that instead of placing your finger on a thumbnail-sized icon to unlock the phone, you’ll be able to do so in a much larger area of the display.

    On Apex, the usable scanning area isn’t quite half the screen — it’s more like a third. Or maybe two-fifths. But in any case, the area is big enough to demonstrate the tech's advantage; this way, you can pretty much just pick up the phone and unlock it without really having to think about it. You're also able to require simultaneous input from two different fingerprints for extra security, or for times when you might want to protect data shared by two people.

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    Vivo isn’t saying whether the scanner is provided by Synaptics, as was the case with the X20 Plus UD. (My guess would be yes.) It works the same way, requiring an OLED screen and the ability to light up the surface of your finger upon contact. It isn’t quite as fast as a conventional fingerprint reader, and I actually found that it works better if you press your thumb flat against the screen rather than only using the tip. The important thing, though, is that it works.

    ALL OF THIS IS IN SERVICE OF THE WAR ON BEZELS
    All of this is in service of the war on bezels that almost the entire smartphone industry has declared over the past year or so. Apex, as a device, is one of the most aggressive expressions of that ideal yet, with almost imperceptible bezels around three sides of the phone and a larger — but still skinny — one on the bottom edge. And as such, Vivo has needed to find solutions for the kind of features that’d usually require bezels to function.

    The most obvious one of these is the selfie camera. Some phone makers have gotten around this with notches, others by relocating the camera below the screen so that you have to hold the phone upside down. But Apex’s answer is both inventive and kind of cute — the 8-megapixel camera is hidden behind the screen and pops up like a periscope when needed. It takes 0.8 seconds to ready itself and makes a little whirring sound — I thought the mechanism would be flimsy, but it actually feels really solid. If nothing else, it’s a neat way to avoid the notch.

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    The lack of bezels also means there’s no space for a conventional earpiece speaker. Xiaomi’s Mi Mix addressed this with a piezoelectric design that worked similar to bone conduction technology, but Vivo’s approach here is to vibrate the entire screen itself like a speaker — you can still hear phone calls without holding the device to your head. I’ve heard better quality calls in my time, but it’s totally usable.

    Apex is purely a concept, and Vivo says it has no plans to release an actual product in this particular form. But none of it feels particularly implausible. The fingerprint sensor works, the selfie camera works, the earpiece-speaker-thing works, all in a package with an impressive screen-to-body ratio. I wouldn’t be surprised if one, some, or all of these ideas make their way into various phones over the next year or two as manufacturers chase a future free from bezels.
     
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    VIVO NEX Unboxing + Hands-On Impressions: All Screen, No Notch!
     
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    Smartphone of the Future? - Vivo Nex First Look
     
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    The True All-Screen Smartphone is Here...
     
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    I think its been posted somewhere.
    On-screen fingerprint module is very good concept.
     
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    This Smartphone Changes Everything...
    The Oppo Find X may be our best glimpse into our collective smartphone future. Smartphones are set to become completely bezel-less and the Oppo Find X is the first retail example I've seen. The Find X features an over 93 percent screen to body ratio. The Oppo Find X is a seriously impressive device. What do you think, is the Oppo Find X the best smartphone of 2018?

     
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    The More Affordable All-Screen Smartphone...
     
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    Apple’s Insane Future iPhones! + 2018 iPhones Leaks
     
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    I think its good news on android ecosystem since users will be switching to droids.
    So no jailbreak, no data sync, basically skynet 5.0 etc....
     
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    The Problem with Bezel-less Smartphones
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    Published on Jun 23, 2018
    With smartphones like the Oppo Find X and Vivo Nex, what are we willing to compromise for the maximum screen-to-body ratio?
     
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    When is Microsoft announcing Surface Andromeda? #AskDanWindows 50
     
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    Samsung Galaxy S10 leaks and IGTV
     
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    Samsung Galaxy S10: Release Date + Potential Mind Blowing Feature
     
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    It seems Oppo beat Samsung.
     
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    Can't say that yet.
     
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    Why? Even I'm unsure if its even a finished/prototype.
     
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    I agree with you, I meant that we have to wait and see who will be better.
     
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    The Bezel-less Mi Mix - BEND TEST and Ceramic Scratch Test
     
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    Vivo Nex S - Hidden Camera Durability Test! - Scratch and Bend
     
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    Microsoft will revamp Andromeda entirely for 2019
     
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    World's Most Bezel-Less Phone! | The Tech Chap
     
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    I am in the I don't give a crap if my phone has bezels camp. It's the latest "thing and fad" to jump on.
     
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    Yep, next time they'll put everything into eye wear and a watch for truly phone-less experience!
     
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    If it looks like a pair of oakleys and not a fried chicken bucket like HoloLens...I am in! haha ha.
     
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    Google Pixel Ultra Drama

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    This Smartphone Will Change Everything...
     
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    Samsung Teases The Foldable Smartphone
     
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    Samsung Galaxy S10 - IT'S INDEED HAPPENING!

     
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    Samsung's Foldable Phone is Here!
     
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    How do you put a case on an flexible phone to protect it from drops and still keep it flexible.

    John.
     
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    This display is a flexible organic light emitting diode (OLED) panel made of an unbreakable surface with a plastic overlay window attached to it, making it simultaneously lightweight and tough as glass but a lot more robust. Manufacturers have yearned for many years to make displays with flexible, bendable properties and a paper-like feel with electronic functionality. If Samsung has truly found a way to protect a flexible OLED then it has solved a major technical challenge in removing the need for the glass screens used on most other displays today.
    Glass was originally needed to actually stop displays from bending. Old-fashioned liquid crystal displays easily distorted when bent because the molecules in the liquid inside them would become misaligned. Today’s OLED screens are based on a solid layer of light-emitting material that doesn’t easily distort in this way. But glass is also used to protect the organic molecules in an OLED display from being degraded by water vapour and other gases that would shorten their lifespan. Until now, encapsulating displays in flexible plastic hasn’t been enough to protect them.
    http://theconversation.com/samsungs-foldable-phone-could-soon-be-a-reality-103487
     
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    Let's Talk About the Foldable Smartphone!
     
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    The Incredible Dual Screen Smartphone...
     
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    Samsung Foldable Phone's PRICE LEAKED
     
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    The Addictive Sliding Smartphone...
     
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    The Samsung Galaxy S10 looks…Interesting...
     
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    Xiaomi Mi Mix 3: The Ultimate Slider?
     
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    Royole Flexpi Hands-On: The world's first real foldable phone
     
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    The PROBLEM with the Foldable Phone
     
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    The Foldable Smartphone You Can Buy Right Now
     
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    How Is This Screen NOT BROKEN?!
     
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    First Look at the Hole-Punch Display!
     
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    How Durable is a Sliding Phone? - Xiaomi Mi Mix 3
     
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    Does MKBHD Like The Xiaomi Folding Phone?
     
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