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well mostly for high end games and applications that require this kind of hardware
i know a lot of people who still holding them self from buying windows phone at the moment because they want high end hardware which will comes in year 2012
also there is a rumor about having different resolution for wp7
480x320 and 1280x720

 

To be fair, significant for Nokia ≠ significant for WP7.
I'm not talking about Nokia's individual fortunes or the quality of their handsets when taken in isolation, my point is Nokia's impact upon WP7 as a whole and this idea of them as it's 'saviour'.

Nokia pushed hard with other handsets like the N8 but overall they barely made a blip.
Unless Nokia do something ridiculous with the price, it doesn't really matter much how hard they push.

You do remember what I do for a job, right?

With all due respect, you seem to have a fairly unrealistic idea as to what young and/or female customers want from their phones, simply making it pink isn't going to guarantee you huge sales with women - we've moved on a lot from the ( non-Android) Motorola RAZR.
That's not to say some people aren't swayed by the looks, and again I can't comment specifically on the US but fewer and fewer people are.

This also goes for the comments about people not knowing better as well, your average consumer has never been better informed and even if they don't know about something, they'll generally ask.
People don't want to be tied into a 2 year contract with a phone that they don't like/doesn't do what they want.

We've had this discussion before and that's simply not true any more.
Maybe 5 years ago Nokia were the yardstick when it came to reliability but not now.

Of the three handsets you mentioned, both the N900 and N8 have had at least their fair share of hardware problems.
The E71 also had a lot of problems latterly but my recollection was mostly issues like not powering on/switching off randomly which are predominantly software-related.

Even the handsets that haven't had serious/widespread hardware problems aren't as well made as you seem to think they are, the N8 is pretty nice with the aluminium finish but other than that most Nokia phones just feel cheap.


Not that it really matters what the cause of a problem is anyway, it still sours customers to the brand.
The 5530 for example, a solid enough if utterly uninspiring handset whose only saving grace was it's price, plagued with software problems like you've never seen. Do you honestly think that a customer whose handset is breaking down on a near-weekly basis will care what the cause of the problem was? No, they're just going to move on and never buy another Nokia again.



Lets put this another way, when was the last time any of you bought a Nokia phone?
How well have Nokia sold in your country the past couple of years? How many major networks carry their high-end handsets?

 

Nokia Giving Away 25,000 Nokia Lumia 800 Devices To Developers
Marco Argenti, SVP of Developer and Marketplace at Nokia announced during Nokia World 2011 that Nokia will be shipping 25,000 Nokia Lumia 800 devices to developers around the world.

He also said that,

"Nokia Lumia 800 is a beautiful thing. Developers will be inspired to create beautiful apps; the opportunity is here, now."
No details were announced on when and how Nokia will be distributing these developer devices. Anyway, Its a good sign to show the commitment Nokia has towards the Windows Phone developer ecosystem.

 

Acer Allegro Windows Phone Device Revealed, Will Cost € 299

 

Microsoft Productivity Future Vision

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samsung focus s / samsung flash showed up at samsung site

Samsung Focus S



Coming Soon! Samsung Focus? S | Samsung Mobile


Samsung Focus Flash



Coming Soon! Samsung Focus? Flash | Samsung Mobile

 

article about windows phone 7 new york times
david Pague: windows phone 7.5 gorgeous classy, satisfying, fast and coherent

read more
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/t...ll-of-great-tricks-state-of-the-art.html?_r=2

 

Windows Phone “Apollo” arriving middle of 2012

Windows Phone “Apollo” reportedly arriving middle of 2012 | WinRumors

 

=) X-Factor UK finalists receive Nokia Lumia 800 Windows Phones


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Nokia aims to take 50% of the Indian smartphone market

Nokia eyes 50% market share in India by 2012 - Economic Times

 

HTC Titan, Radar take center stage in video series with Jim Gaffigan

HTC TITAN - Life PowerPoints

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HTC Radar 4G - Bing Vision

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Focus Flash and Focus S coming to AT&T on Nov. 6

 

ST-Ericsson & Nokia to deliver dual-core Windows Phones


Qualcomm’s reign on Windows Phone chipsets is soon to end, as ST-Ericsson
have teamed up with Nokia to deliver new Windows Phones with their NovaThor platform on the inside. ST-Ericsson claim that their technology would help bring WP devices to new markets and price points.

As The Verge points out, the NovaThor line-up currently consist only of dual-core chipsets, which don’t exactly fit with the statement that they will be bringing it to new price points. The ST-Ericsson chips will no doubt have to go head-to-head with Qualcomm’s own Snapdragon series three chips that have already presented themselves in several Android devices, such as the HTC Sensation.

In case you’re wondering when you might be seeing dual-core Windows Phones, it’s still somewhat far down the track as rumors would have it. You’ll probably have to wait until Windows Phone “Apollo”, currently is slated for a 2012 release, which will support dual-cores with Windows Phone chassis 3. At this stage it looks like ST-Ericsson will be only delivering their chipsets to Nokia, so bad luck if you’re after one in your next HTC or Samsung device.

Oh, and for those people wondering, ST-Ericsson is a joint venture between STMicroelectronics and Ericsson; they are not the same company as phone manufacturer Sony Ericsson.

NOVATHOR™ U9500
FEATURES
Full HD 1080p camcorder, multiple codecs supported (H264 HP, VC-1, MPEG-4)
High-resolution, touchscreen display support up to WXGA
Simultaneous dual display support up to dual XGA
High performance 3D graphics
Dual camera support with Integrated ISP 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS and FM enabled platform
Built-in USB 2.0, HDMI out
Support for major operating systems
Optional support for mobile TV standards

TELECOM
-3GPP Rel 7
-GSM/EDGE quad band
-WCDMA/HSPA+ penta band support
-HSDPA 21 Mbps (cat 14)
-HSUPA 5.76 Mbps (cat 6)
-Rx diversity
-GRAKE2+ (Type 3i) advanced receiver with interference suppression
-CPC (DTX/DRX)
-Enhanced F-DPCH
-Enhanced CELL FACH
-Fast Dormancy (with cause indication)
-Voice supporting AMR-WB

TECHNOLOGY
-Highly efficient, low-power ARM® dual Cortex™- A9 processor
-Dual multimedia DSP for low-power, flexible media processing
-High-bandwidth LP-DDR2 interface
-ARM® Mali™ 400 GPU and NEON®CPU extensions
-Unique audio architecture with a wide range of audio codecs supported
-Advanced power saving architecture enabling class-leading audio and video --playback times

Block Diagram



source: NovaThor U9500, smartphone, tablet, platform - ST-Ericsson
ST-Ericsson & Nokia to deliver dual-core Windows Phones - Neowin.net

 

Dual cortex A9 cores with a Mali-400 GPU, it's basically the same as Exynos SoC so it stands to reason that Samsung will be using their own chips in their WP7 handsets at some point.

 

It would make sense.

Mali's architecture is similar enough to Snapdragon's that there would only be changes in drivers... they both have independent pixel/vertex support.

WP7 relies on Snapdragon's floating point efficiency, so this new A9 chipset should have VFPv3-D16 as well as NEON, like they stated. That would give them floating point performance with the power of Mali-400 in however many cores they wanted to add (probably 2-4 cores).

Very interesting. Exynos would be the front runner for dual-core floating point performance. I don't think I've seen anything beat it yet.

 

Nokia Lumia 800 top 1 sales charts in France



Téléphone portable, Smartphone et Tablette - Phone House

 

One of many reasons Microsoft needs to get their marketing ducks in a row...

Microsoft releases Bing app for Android, iOS, not Windows Phone 7 -- Engadget

I mean seriously. Bing is built into the whole damn OS, just like Google Search is for Android. I am boycotting Engadget.

 

Bing may be woven in to WP7 but are you sure it has all the features that this app does?

I mean, did you read this part of the article:

That makes it sound like, at the moment, WP7 doesn't have the same features that this app offers.

 

IMO, it's already there. It doesn't look like that app, but it's there. Maybe that's what they're talking about releasing on WP7? An app that uses the built in Bing search, but looks like those apps on other platforms?

 

lol i saw that
i don't read anything related to windows phone in engadget
cause they are well known iphone supporters

 

Preparation for the big NYC event 7/11

 

^I think some of those projectors are suffering from unknown malfunctions...

Meanwhile: Exclusive? Ha says I!

Nokia Drive hacked, takes trip abroad to rival Windows Phones - Engadget

 

good as long as it become useful for other windows phone 7 i don't mind

 

I am pretty disappointed that Nokia decided not to launch new WP7 devices in the US this year. Really think it is a pretty big mistake on their part.

 

well if you want the lumia 800 maybe ordered from europe better than wait
i ordered my focus from us cause windows phone 7 not available in the middle east because of the our language won't be supported until 2012

 

Hands on: Spotify for Windows Phone 7.5
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Samsung’s vice president of consumer and enterprise services Gavin Kim has left the company to join Microsoft as general manager of the Windows Phone team

more : Samsung VP Gavin Kim departs to lead Microsoft's Windows Phone product management

 

Telefonica exec echoes what we already know: Nokia's new handsets are too spendy - Engadget

 

Nokia Lumia 800 is Phone of the Year

Windows Phone takes prestigious What Mobile award

Nokia Lumia 800 is Phone of the Year | Nokia Conversations

 

Dell finally replaces 15,000 Blackberries with Windows Phones

Cookies must be enabled | The Australian

 

The problem is of course that they had to hire someone to pose that way. Apple can get morons to do that all by themselves

 

awesome ad from Nokia France my favorite ad for windows phone
i thought about sharing it here
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Kudos to Nokia for doing what Microsoft clearly is too inept to do. Awesome commercial. Awesome song choice as well. Windows Phone needs good marketing like that.

 

I know that on android and Windows Phone classic handsets, system dumps were pretty much a givin, giving people access to wallpapers and ringtones.

Do any exist for WP7? the ringtones are pretty cool.

 

I haven't come across any, although there's only 1 default I like anyway; although the lock screens that come with the phone are probably online somewhere, seeing as how they were just jpegs you could save to your library if you wanted to.

...I don't know why I didn't though.

 

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Ummm...My original Moto Droid reboots faster than that Thunderbolt...

 

Sounds like the 4g LTE handsets just plain take longer to start up then the evdo ones. My OG Droid is faster to boot than the thunderbolt in the video and my stratosphere.

 

I think it's more like the guy that posted that video loaded down the Android handset with a custom ROM full of extra crap (which is clearly the case). There's no way a thunderbolt should take almost two full minutes to reboot.

 

Mine just took 1:45.

 

Then Sense is a massive resource hog.

The Windows Phone also didn't actually boot clean. Why is there no SIM in it?

Just saying, it's a completely flawed test.

Edit: Just timed my Droid, 1 minute, 4 seconds.

 

Took a minute and 10 for mine to boot, I counted media scanner running and completing in the time. W/Out that, probably a minute flat.

 

MANGO = 19 sec

 

That's pretty damn fast for stock.

CM7 on my Infuse is about 12 seconds, give or take. Stock Samsung firmware is about a minute.

 

Report: Nokia Lumia Accounted For Only 0.17 Percent Of UK Sales In November | paidContent

Unlike previous claims about sales performance in the UK from Nokia, this has numbers to back it up.
It also tallies with everything I've been hearing from people working for all networks/major third-party retailers about sales of the Lumia.

 

Noob learn to do your work before posting

i guess you cant post anything good about lumia sales in Germany and Netherlands you only want people to focus on the online purchase

i hate people like you taking half the fact and turn it to something bad

 

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Do you have any figures to suggest that the in store sales are significantly better?

 

And your point is?

Sales in those countries have no bearing on Nokia's performance in the UK.
My comment was in reference to Nokia's previous claims that the Lumia had sold out up and down the UK:

I'm quite happy to talk about sales in stores, in fact I think you'll find I already mentioned them too - they're equally pathetic.

The very day Nokia made their claim about selling out, the store I work in had 3 sat on the shelf that had been gathering dust from day one, never even taken out their boxes because not one customer had asked to see them. And every other store in our entire region ( ie Scotland, a whole freaking country) was sat on multiple units each. So much for selling out(!)
And I've spoken to scores of people working for all the major UK networks and third-party retailers who confirm the same thing, that nobody wants the Lumia.

Even when people want WP7 handsets don't want the Lumia - like the business my manager is courting who are looking for ~350 handsets to replace their Omnia7s, they took one look at the Lumia and immediately decided they'd rather have a Titan or a Radar.
Which is a shame, that order alone could probably have doubled Nokia's monthly UK sales figures

It's perfectly valid WP7 news.
The fact that you don't like it doesn't change that.

Also, my focusing on the negative news about the Lumia is really no more or less biased than your focusing on only positive news - and lets face it, if I didn't post it, it was never going to get a mention in what has effectively become the pro-WP7/Nokia PR thread.

 

Very well said.

 

LG-E906 (Jil Sander) Windows Phone 7.5 handset (16GB) - £149.99 - Expansys.com

£150 is a really good price for a handset running Mango, even if it's just a 1GHz CPU as opposed to the 1.4GHz that the top handsets have.
It also makes it a better deal than equivalently-specced Android handsets - the closest I can think off off the top of my head is the Nexus S for £200 just now.

No idea who the heck Jil Sander is though.