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    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by mrXniick, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. killkenny1

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    So what does it mean?
     
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    It's a really odd contraction of "it's all". Almost like a contraction and a half. But, I'm not sure... I'm not so good at teh maths.
     
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    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    My handset is factory unlocked. Do the maths (and yeths, there iths an eths in there), as it were...
     
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    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Sound it out.

    You claim to speak Engerlish good enough to teach it...

    My dad spells it 'Britches'. Then again, he's from Virginia & Texas. There's a lota stuff different from there.
     
  5. killkenny1

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    I don't specialize in redneck-English :D.
     
  6. Mitlov

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    I've always seen it spelled "s'all" even though it can be pronounced "saw'll".
     
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    Well, study it and feel overwhelmingly superior.

    ... unless you're Ukrainian ;)
     
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    Redneck-English has separate words for you (singular) and you (plural), like romance languages and unlike mainstream English. That alone gives it greater utility than mainstream English. Just sayin'...
     
  9. killkenny1

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    Should we rename this thread, or make another separate one for English language?
     
  10. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Fine, study up on whatever you Canadians call Engerlish then. But don't dismiss it. You'll find almost half of the US speaks only redneck Engerlish.
     
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    Yup, cause they dun got no gramattticals.

    *grins evilly as thread careens off track*
     
  12. Mitlov

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    Good news for Windows Phone in Europe:

    Windows Phone crossing double digit market share in parts of Europe

    WP's showing in the USA and China, unfortunately, is less rosy; it's 3% and 2.1% in those two markets respectively.
     
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    So I guess that it means Europeans are a) more discerning and b) patient.

    It's interesting that all the Lumia 800's / 900's I didn't see when they were current seems to have come out of the woodwork recently, I see them on a regular basis now in the various places I'm at. WP8 handsets - still a very, very rare sighting. Certainly not 1 in 10.
     
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    I think it has to do with (1) US carriers wanting to stick with Android because of uninstallable bloatware, (2) high-end Lumias getting tied up with AT&T exclusive deals in the US, and (3) the Lumia 620 not making sense with the US subsidy pricing. None of these are factors where you can just buy the device you want and stick your carrier's SIM card in it.
     
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    I'm living up to my tagline:

    Updating to GDR3 now, my first thought is not

    "Gee, I wonder what great new features i can play with!"

    but "I wonder what it'll break"

    Sigh.
     
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    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    When you die of shock, I get your iPads. :D
     
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    My will stipulates that everyone [redacted]s on all my Apple gear at the wake. And that I'm set adrift atop a bonfire of BladeSystems.

    You're welcome to the iPads if they're still usable after.
     
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    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    I'm good with that. A little poop on an Apple product...it's like karmic poetry. :D

    And it's not the first time I've have cleaned human excrement.
     
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    allfiredup Notebook Virtuoso

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    I just upgraded to a new Nokia Lumia 928 (Verizon's version of the 920 with a Xenon flash). I previously had the HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7. So far, I'm loving the phone and really loving Windows Phone 8. I'll post a brief review after I use it for a few weeks!
     
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    Surprisingly nothing broke. Pretty good news for a dev preview - but then it's not a major update as such.

    To eval GDR3 I've temporarily swapped back to WP8 full-time for primary phone, and the first-day feeling is - man I feel so much better in basic everyday ops. My Z and One are customised to the hilt - something you obviously can't do in WP, but the reason they need to be so customised is to mitigate the [redacted] [redacted] that is Android. I don't need to tweak every aspect of WP operation, because it works really well to start with. Problem is of course, it doesn't do everything I need of it - or rather, the apps don't. The fact that Skype - freakin' Microsoft Skype - still works better on Android than it does in WP continues to be a major rankle point for example.
     
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    Instagram is FINALLY coming to Windows Phone, as are Vine and Xbox Video. Why Microsoft waited a year to bring Xbox Video to WP8 we'll never know. The Instagram addition is nice; that's the most common mention of what apps are missing from WP when someone is discussing the issue.

    At long last, Instagram coming to Windows Phone | Ars Technica
     
  24. killkenny1

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    Kill me now!
     
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    For me it would be even better (minus the 1080p screen - 720 p would be more than sufficient) if they could stick that inside a Lumia 800 / 620 sized package. I want a flagship phone that I'm not always having to juggle one way or another / combat it falling out of my hand / mistake for a giant Panini.
     
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    The Xperia Z1F/Z1S sounds perfect for you. 4.3" 720p screen, Snapdragon 800, 20-megapixel camera.

    Leaked Xperia Z1S could be international version of the Xperia Z1F | Digital Trends
     
  27. killkenny1

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    Or this.
    I probably gonna have WP8 device as my next smartphone. Now just waiting to see what interesting comes out in the near future. If nothing very interesting, there's always Lumia 920 :D.
     
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    Quit acting like it's the end of the world. Not everyone is an amateur <del>creepster</del> photographer.
     
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    ... except it runs Android. I always hop in about 3 months at least in a year and just come away - "uurgh". My current time with the Z and the One is no exception, but as much as what Windows Phone can't do means it can't be my only OS, my idea of hell would be an all-Android roster, which it nearly is right now.

    Any phone on which I *have* to replace the default shell to make it even barely usable is a total fail. The Z was better in that respect (and it has better hardware - I don't care for the detail nerd points that the One scores, wrapped up in an exceptionally poorly engineered shell intended primarily to appeal to Apple-worshipping ignoramuses) but really, not by much.
     
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    It's not this. Instagram turns all photos, regardless of their initial quality, into crap.
    Not to mention, Instagram (now Failbook, right?) can sell your "art" and won't even have to share profits with you.
     
  31. Mitlov

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    Fair enough. I prefer WP to Android as well, but my carrier forced my hand by carrying the full Galaxy lineup but no WP8 devices besides the Ativ Odyssey.
     
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    I hear this a lot from the US people.
    Isn't buying unlocked phone an option in the US?
     
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    No, but everyone is apparently a food stylist.
     
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    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    That's not so bad. At least they're not trying to take photos of their food whilst they chew it.

    That would break the Lumia 1020's super camera.
     
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    Only if money isn't important. Most carriers will charge the same inflated amount for monthly data whether you buy a subsidized phone from them or bring an unlocked phone...so if you buy an unlocked phone, you essentially have to pay twice.

    Also, CDMA carriers like US Cellular have vastly superior rural coverage, but most unlocked phones are for GSM carriers. I guess CDMA is basically dead in Europe, but in both the US and China, it's still dominant in rural areas.
     
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    Oh BTW I was quite intrigued by the Nokia Refocus app. Except when I realised it'd likely take photo-taking back into the daguerreotype era in terms of latency.
     
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    So you don't have to pay a monthly fee for a phone? I see.
    Over here it's a bit tricky. You do buy it for less (say 50EUR), but then there's also a monthly fee of like 15EUR (depends on a phone), plus a contract. So in the end it doesn't make any big difference (although you do kinda overpay some cash to the carrier). You prolly can get a discount, if you have been a long time client, but yeah, it's still a rip-off in my books.
     
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    Well, it's not that different. I have SIM-only plans since I buy my handsets outright - I change them too often for any subsidised phone to matter - but they're not *that* much cheaper than plans with handsets.

    What really pees me off about buying handsets outright is the distortion that subsidy places on the market for used phones. It's not uncommon for me to lose >60% on a 6-month-old phone. And since I replace them at higher frequency than my computers, phones are in fact my biggest waste of money by far.

    But on the other hand it's actually only in phones I've experienced the Apple Resale Myth in reality, since I lose far less when selling an iPhone compared to anything else. Which makes sense - as it's one thing which is replaced every year, instead there being something slightly better every month.
     
  39. mattcheau

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    on point: Verizon plans to drop CDMA from phones in 2014 in favor of pure LTE

    i think the better point is that buying an unlocked phone is cost prohibitive. why pay full retail for a device that's offered elsewhere for a fraction of that price or even free in some cases?

    the other piece is that the cheapest (subsidized) prices are offered only with two-year contracts. at the end of two years, if your original contract had a term no longer offered (e.g. price term, unlimited texting or data, etc.) you've traditionally been able to have that no-longer-offered term grandfathered into your new contract. therefore you get a lot of people in bed with their carrier for the long term. this is changing, however, now that the carriers are ushering out unlimited data plans and refusing to honor previously grandfathered unlimited data terms.

    think i've mentioned this here before but when WP7 first came out and MS and verizon weren't playing nice, it became clear that AT&T would be the favored WP carrier. i left verizon after having been their customer for almost ten years and made the switch to AT&T. no loyalty, they're all the same.

    interestingly enough, all the carriers over here are now offering these "upgrade plans" whereby you basically finance a new device by making monthly payments--and if you've paid half the cost device at the end of some predetermined time period, usually six months, you can upgrade to a brand new device by entering into a new financing arrangement. the gamy bit is that you often won't even come close to paying half the price of the device by making only the minimum monthly payment.
     
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    How my plan works, and this is how most US plans work (T-Mobile being a notable exception):

    I pay X per month for data, voice, and text messaging. That amount includes subsidy for the phone hardware, but nowhere is that actually separated out from the rest of the bill. I then pay $200 for a $600 phone, and I'm eligible to buy another $600 phone for $200 from my carrier in two years (or 18 months with US Cellular, my carrier). If I walk in with my own handset, or keep my phone beyond two years, I pay the exact same X per month.

    I hate the system, but it's the norm around here, and trying to work around it is a royal pain in the butt, particularly with a CDMA carrier (and in rural Oregon you need to be on a CDMA carrier).

    In that case US Cellular is going to basically have a monopoly on Oregon outside of the Portland metro area. There are spots of LTE here in Medford, but they're just that...spots. I can drive ten minutes in any direction and lose LTE coverage.
     
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    So I take it that means the 1520 has roughly the same reflectance as the 2520 (5%)?
     
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    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Just bought my first Windows phone, an Nokia 1020 :) so i will be reading all this thread, thanks for any help as i will be needing a lot.

    EDIT: what video player are you guys using?

    Thanks

    John.
     
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    Maybe, but I can't find any number for it.

    Another article mention it is using Assertive Display
    Nokia
     
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    So another 9xx Nokia Lumia device has been confirmed - 929. A 5" smortphone with 1080p display, Snapdragon 800, and 20 MP Pureview camera.
    So far it's labeled as Verizon exclusive. Damn you Nokia!!! I really hope they release it or something similar for the rest of the world.
     
  47. Mitlov

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    What a superb device. It could stand toe-to-toe with anything on the US market if they didn't make it a carrier exclusive. Still, at least it's not an AT&T exclusive like Nokia has done with their US flagships in the past.
     
  48. killkenny1

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    Isn't 928 Verizon exclusive too?
    I hope that Nokia comes to senses and releases this worldwide. That might be my future smartphone, right there.
     
  49. Mitlov

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    The 925 and 928 are just variants of the Lumia 920, and the Lumia 920 was an AT&T exclusive for months before variants for T-Mobile and Verizon appeared.
     
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    The good news: Nokia sales way up in North America!

    The bad news: they appear to be low-profit margin Lumia 520s in Mexico (where WP has 12.5% smartphone marketshare), not high-profit-margin flagships in US and Canada.

    Nokia sells 8.8 million Lumias in Q3 as US demand skyrockets (ignore the title; the statistics are about "North America," not the US)
     
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