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    virus guard

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by lahi88, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. lahi88

    lahi88 Notebook Guru

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    I have macafee virus guard that it came with my laptop. The subscription must be ended now because i have bought this laptop around 2 and 1/2 years ago. Now my virus guard is showing that i have another 600 days of protection. But 2 days ago i got a email from macafee that my subscription has ended .

    I dont understand. How could that happen.

    My worry is that can somebody hacked into my laptop ??. and change this to show that my protected which im not ?? so they can remotely control my laptop ??
     
  2. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    By default remote access must first be turned on by the user(you) first. If I was you I go and download MS MSE or Defender (win8) which is free if you already own Windows O/S and then uninstall the junk Macafree and install MS A/V and that will keep you protected and will always update for free with no annual subscriptions.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Why do people insist on recommending MSE which is by fat the worst AV? That's pointless - these are other free anti-virus sollutions that do a much better job.
     
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    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Actually, MSE/Defender is described as 'worst' by so-called 'mainstream reports'.
    Real life scenarios however as well as user experience of multiple years seem to show that MSE/Defender is at least on par with other solutions in regards to protection (this isn't just an isolated 'opinion' of a single person however... I have installed MSE/Defender on other people's computers and routine checks have shown it was fine... and that was confirmed after quickly installing and removing another free AV like Panda and Avast just out of curiosity).

    MSE/Defender seems to work fine.
     
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    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    That's the jest of it but others seems to not like hearing it.....
     
  6. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Wait, because it's free *roll eyes*. It ticks me off whenever I read on forums "I've been running MSE for years and never got infected" as if those people would know they were infected if they have a 0 effectiveness AV such as Windows Pretender or MSE. It's not like the virus is gonna popup and say "oh hello, you have been infected"

    For many months/years now, MSE/Windows Defender has been on the bottom of the AV-TEST and AV Comparatives tests:

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  7. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Ran a full scan (free Avira) on a fully-updated MSE/Windows Defender 'protected' system last week:
    • 70 viruses found
    Not kidding ... and no false positives, either. Defender is only good to accelerate global warming ... ah, and increase sales of faster systems (with a newer, more resource-hungry Defender version pre-installed, obviously).

    Renewed Kaspersky for another three years on multiple systems; consistently high kill-rate, low resources and fewest false positives. Also, it doesn't bother you with flagging those tiny .exe's that you sometimes erroneously run before lowering the speaker volume ...
     
  8. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    Really Defender increasing sales when it is Free? Where did that logic come from? Since we have no list of what 70 Virus your talking about no one can reproduce those claims either to support any results here. I love how people make stories but give no more info to verify it. Also for one to get that many means torrents and running to many so called free programs loaded with malware/virus to start with. I do full scan each month and find no Virus/Malware so your claims are busted....

    Same could be said of MSE or any other A/V program and since there is nothing to backup those claims its all hearsay again...
     
  9. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Dude, chill. What do you want; full Defender log plus an Avira log? Not going to happen; help people fix their desktop/laptop and move on. If it were my system; sure, logs ceiling-high. But they aren't, so ...

    Btw, sorry to offend you, but also happened to run Kaspersky today (30-day trial) on, again, someone else's laptop; 8 hits, of which 3x adware, but the other 5 quite serious (inc. backdoor+keylogger). Thing is; 'Defender = off' this time, but AVG free was running and updated. No false positives, either; uploaded to meta-virus check. Had I read your post before; logs. Maybe next time.

    Hmm ... logs can be falsified, too. So ... make a copy and upload them to the meta-compare. Can check which AVs catch it, then you can download them to a Defender-only system and see what happens. Deal?

    And any AV can increase sales by increasing resource demand (pc is slow -> get a new one). Difference is that (most?) other AV companies don't sell pc's and/or os'es. There's the virus, too, of course, if it's BitCoin mining, say. Truthfully, though, Defender isn't that bad at this, there's worse. Only thing is; it'd better do something useful with resources granted, no? From my, admittedly, anecdotal experience that AV-TEST seems fairly accurate. Not going to bother making an exhaustive study out of it, though; anti-virus is like getting a root canal; it has to be done, doesn't mean you want to make it last longer than necessary.

    But really; chill. If you're happy with Defender, then that's all that matters.
     
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  10. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    This is the reply I would've expected...nothing new here...when asked they go on the offensive...I can use your lines and replace it with MSE. So defend all you want it changes little that MSE works. And test can be made to favor one or the other or the dreaded word "BIASED" testing. EU testers have a disdain for Microsoft and so one would figure they make the test to make MSE/Defender look bad. And since there is no other way to verify from other whom have no EU bias towards Microsoft or any other then this test is a failure already to start.