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    man avg just cant win new update detects and removes critical windows file read on

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by zfactor, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. zfactor

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    http://securityandthe.net/2008/11/10/avg-virus-scanner-removes-critical-windows-file/

    AVG virus scanner removes critical Windows file
    Nov.10, 2008 in News

    An update for the AVG virus scanner released yesterday contained an incorrect virus signature, which led it to think user32.dll contained the Trojan Horses PSW.Banker4.APSA or Generic9TBN. AVG then recommended deleting this file; this causes the affected systems to either stop booting or go into a continuous reboot cycle. So far, the problem only appears to affect Windows XP, but there is no guarantee that other versions of Windows don’t have the same issue.

    Both AVG 7.5 and AVG 8.0 were affected by the update; a revised signature database has just been published that corrects this issue. People that have removed the user32.dll can either boot from their original Windows CD and choose the repair option, or use another CD to boot from and restore the file from C:\Windows\System32\dllcache. If you happen to need a bootable CD: my personal favorite is the Ultimate Boot CD (mirror of UBCD 4.1.1 ISO).

    AVG claims to have approximately 80 million users worldwide; there is no official reaction on the AVG website yet, but FAQ item 1574 in their support section covers a “False positive user32.dll” and offers some advice on restoring your system using the Windows Recovery Console.

    AVG’s popularity stems mainly from the free version they offer for home users; if you’re looking for an alternative free virus scanner for Windows I highly recommend Avast!. ClamWin is another alternative; it’s a Windows port of the popular Linux scanner ClamAV.

    Update: AVG has responded on their forum, but there is no press release or other info on their main website yet, other than the info in their FAQ. The response in the forum:

    Unfortunately, the previous virus database might have detected the
    mentioned virus on legitimate files. We can confirm that it was a
    false alarm. We have immediately released a new virus update
    (270.9.0/1778) that removes the false positive detection on this file.
    Please update your AVG and check your files again.

    [...]

    We are sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your help.

    Update 2: According to comments at ghacks, users of AVG version 7.5 might have an easier alternative: reboot in safe mode and disable the scanner, then update to the latest version.

    Update 3: A reader suggested Avira as another alternative free virus scanner; I’ve never heard of it, but you can check it out here. And of course, if your virus scanner should ever detect a file that looks to you like a false positive, head over to virustotal.com and submit it to all major virus scanners at once!
     
  2. Jstn7477

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    I use Avast and it is completely free for personal use for a year when you register it.

    -J.B.
     
  3. zfactor

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    oh i use paid av and NOT avg but i think it kinda funny that this is twice now a avg update causes issues for users in the last few days
     
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    nod32 ftw.
     
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    The guy is a systems administrator at an ISP in the Netherlands.

    He claims he has " been involved with network design and server setups for over five years.
    During those years, I’ve learned a lot about securing both individual systems and entire networks
    ."

    But he has NEVER heard of Avira?
    The AV with the highest detection rate worldwide.... :confused:
     
  6. zfactor

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    dont know about that but i know this was real and is being discussed at many places including wilder's
     
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    AVG has jumped the shark, it's just not as good as it used to be.
     
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    For sure it's real, no doubt about that.
    I was just surprised about him not knowing Avira.
     
  9. zfactor

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    oh 100% i agree on that myself!!
     
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    AVG is busy loosing it. Too many unnessary "issues".

    The first sign was with the release of version 8. After using AVG for many years, I hated 8.

    That forced me to try other free AV out there.

    First was Avast. I still have loads of respect for it.
    Second was Avira. Still using it and loving it.

    AVG never again.
     
  11. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I suspect the point made "best antivirus" is a dodgy one - everybody claims something different. Its better to say "one of the best" also because there is no standardized test for antivirus software.

    Just wondering:
    Can computer consumers ask for compensation if a company like Avast messes something up? I believe not as they take no responsebility for wrongdoing in their End User Licence Agreement...

    And the repair function - used that for Vista once (other reasons) - well, wiped out my Sony utilities so I had to go through the whole restore process.

    Maybe it is time to lobby for more legal protection from buggy software released by companies - they damage your system, say sorry and that's it - great.
     
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    talin Notebook Prophet

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