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    The rise and fall of Kaspersky?

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by Papusan, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. Papusan

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    "In response to the report, Kaspersky called the accusations "meritless" and offered up a statement denying any collusion with the Russian government:

    "If these briefings are actually occurring, it’s extremely disappointing that a government agency would take such actions against a law-abiding and ethical company like Kaspersky Lab," Kaspersky said at the time. "The company doesn’t have inappropriate ties with any government, which is why no credible evidence has been presented publicly by anyone or any organization to back up the false allegations made against Kaspersky Lab.

    The only conclusion seems to be that Kaspersky Lab, a private company, is caught in the middle of a geopolitical fight, and it’s being treated unfairly, even though the company has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyber-espionage or offensive cyber efforts.""

    Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working With Russian Intelligence
    Emails show the security-software maker developed products for the FSB and accompanied agents on raids.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ab-has-been-working-with-russian-intelligence

    "Russian cybersecurity company Kaspersky Lab boasts 400 million users worldwide. As many as 200 million may not know it. The huge reach of Kaspersky’s technology is partly the result of licensing agreements that allow customers to quietly embed the software in everything from firewalls to sensitive telecommunications equipment—none of which carry the Kaspersky name.

    That success is starting to worry U.S. national security officials concerned about the company’s links to the Russian government. In early May six U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agency chiefs were asked in an open Senate hearing whether they’d let their networks use Kaspersky software, often found on Best Buy shelves. The answer was a unanimous and resounding no. The question, from Florida Republican Marco Rubio, came out of nowhere, often a sign a senator is trying to indirectly draw attention to something learned in classified briefings."
     
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    As yoo remember... Similarly, China had the same feling about U.S aka Micro$oft :D

     
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    It's pretty crazy for the US and any of its allies to trust the Russians or Chinese with anything as sensitive as security software. We can add a few more countries to the list of never trust, but those two are at the top of the list, along with North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Iraq. That's about as intelligent as asking wolves to stand guard over the sheep. I thought it was pretty crazy and ironic to learn that the US Government was using Kaspersky software. They never should have entertained such a foolish notion in the first place. Getting along and making amends is a good thing. We are all citizens of the same planet. But, being stupid and naive is as much our fault as theirs; and probably even more our fault for thinking it was safe to trust a company from the former Soviet Union with any sensitive matters relating to national security.
     
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    So.,... Why are you guys running AV? I mean, I think that in 99.9% of situations viruses are not only obvious, but easier to remove manually than have something sanning your HDD all the time, and taking performance (?)
     
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    I am not. I haven't been for several years. I cannot answer for the behavior of others. To a large extent the need for it is a fabrication that exists to make money for the software peddlers offering it.

    Rightfully so. They should feel lucky to have any kind of trade with the US at any level. I'm not convinced that it was smart of us to allow it at any level. Forgiving is good and appropriate, and Godly. Unforgiveness will eat you alive. But, forgetting the past is stupid. We should learn from it and never allow any opportunity for repeat mistakes. When forgiveness requires forgetting, there are ulterior motives in play.
     
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    Israel hacked Kaspersky, then tipped the NSA that its tools had been breached
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8ce774-aa95-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html

    "In 2015, Israeli government hackers saw something suspicious in the computers of a Moscow-based cybersecurity firm: hacking tools that could only have come from the National Security Agency.

    Israel notified the NSA, where alarmed officials immediately began a hunt for the breach, according to people familiar with the matter, who said an investigation by the agency revealed that the tools were in the possession of the Russian government.

    Israeli spies had found the hacking material on the network of Kaspersky Lab, the global anti-virus firm under a spotlight in the United States because of suspicions that its products facilitate Russian espionage."
     
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    Thank goodness they did, or else we would probably still be using Kaspersky spyware. Kudos to Israel for their due diligence and being our allies. When one government is hacking it is important for all of them to be. It begs the question of how intelligent it is to allow intelligence to be stored in a manner that is accessible to any entity that doesn't have an immediate need to access it. If it is going to be stored online, it should be on a sand-boxed network with no external network connections of any kind and require on-site hacking from inside a secured and heavily guarded limited access area. Then spies would have to place their lives on the line and live dangerously like the good old days. And, then there would be no use for the geeky hacks working safely from a desk on the other side of the planet.
     
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    Many people are still using Kaspersky tho.,.. We live in dark times...

    BTW, I really suggest everyone should stop using AV. That is like inviting viruses. It means that you have a 24/7 backdoor open to the servers of who knows and that the traffic can be opened by who knows and why knows. I tend to download and run a lot of software, I think that viruses are more injected by the AV than they are not...
     
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    Eye the beholder...everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not the facts.

    And this is based on sketchy opinion as well. Any decent A/V is better then nothing-your basically saying hey my front door and backdoor is open come in all you want. Would you do this to your home? I doubt you would do that. And whoms 24/7 backdoor are you talking about? If you don't want infection disconnect from the internet permanently but don't push a personal agenda to the rest whom have to use it for everyday purpose. Everyone chooses their behavior on the net and those that use black sites and pirated software then that is your own fault but don't lump those that don't do such activities as everyone those kinda stereotyping serves no one but the virus/malware creators whom want people to be sheeps or bots. I like to see where your idea of "more injected by the A/V" where that is coming from because there is nothing that would show otherwise that can be independently verified.
     
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    You can tweak the AV/Security software to skip scanning certain items, folders, and whole drives, and defeat the daily scans and rely on initial download and install scans.

    It's the active scanning of activities, ports used, destinations accessed, and a few other goodies that makes active System AV / Security software valuable.

    You can also disable the features completely when benchmarking, and other activities where you don't want interference or cycles stolen.

    Some have either builtin or add-on features like tracking installs and what applications change in storage / registry, so when it comes time to uninstall those security tools can reverse all the things the application installed / changed, often far more than the application uninstaller does.

    The more you learn, the more control you have over computer tasks, services, activities, and the more you can avoid problems before they have a chance to start.

    Browser tools like uBlock Origin, EFF Privacy Badger, and several others are actually very helpful whether you use System AV / Security tools or not, they will block a lot of problems if you keep them up to date.

    You really can't rely on just one tool these days, all avenues of attack need to be covered. And, to know those takes time and effort, more effort or more time, it's up to you ;)
     
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    Antivirus software is 'increasingly useless' and may make your computer less safe

    Is your antivirus protecting your computer or making it more hackable?

    "Internet security experts are warning that anti-malware technology is becoming less and less effective at protecting your data and devices, and there's evidence that security software can sometimes even make your computer more vulnerable to security breaches."

    Depends on... Yoo:D
    Chrome has a massive copycat extensions problem
     
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    Yup, it's another point of attack, just like any software.

    Hopefully the Security software catches their own software being hacked as well as or better than they do for other applications. ;)

    Yup, as with all good things, bad people try to cash in on them.

    As he says in the article the original / correct / safe uBlock Origin is the first item listed, but you can also find it through other means than the "store" only - like a google search that takes you to the authors site, and then to the right entry in the appropriate store.

    There's no reason to give up just because there are "copy cat" extensions, learn to avoid them and find the original before installing :)

    https://www.ublock.org/

    https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/uBlock#getting-started

    Firefox
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock/

    Chrome Store
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock/epcnnfbjfcgphgdmggkamkmgojdagdnn

    Chrome Manual Install
    https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/uBlock/tree/master/dist#install

    Opera: Opera shares Chrome's underlying engine, so you can install uBlock simply by grabbing the latest release for Chrome.

    It's much more helpful to post how to find the correct downloads, than scare off people from downloading altogether with fear mongering...IDK why that article didn't include the correct locations for downloads.
     
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    Take a try on "noScript"addOn for Firefox, using it from 2010 (has java and hyperlink withelisting, plus xss protection and other things) very light resources needed.
    I'll still using KIS until my licence end..
     
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    I use noscript as well, it's a bit more of a "handful" to use and manage requiring interaction for every new site. It's tough to recommend to a newby, but I've been using it for a long time.

    See if they will issue you a refund for all the hullabaloo in the news ;)
     
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    Maybe an half refund, because running from March...Lol


    Edit:

    I've got no harmful secrets on my laptop, everyone feel free to look at, please dont use it as vehicle of infection :p (like a botnet one)
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    Without AV, such a basic thing as misclick can lead to very tragic consequences.
     
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    Yes, but I trust myself more to not misclick than I trust some AV to clean up my mess if I do...

    I run AdBlock and HTTPSEverywhere actually, those have served me well so far.

    I think that some folks are much more likely to run into problems than others, say, I don't randomly download content that is supposed to pe paid from sites that make it look free, and I don't search for anything that includes unhealthy things, so I clear about 99% of issues myself. The only other two sources where viruses could come from is from a direct attack, which I highly doubt an AV could help me avoid, or myself clicking into something that clearly looks like low quality bait, which again, is something I doublt the AV could clean.

    Well, AV means control. It searches all your files by default, I am not particularly comfortable about that, especially when it comes to files that are under NDA and such.

    Having no AV doesn't mean having an open door, it means you're invisible. AV have user databases, they keep a port open to you, that is something scarier than not hainving them. Most sites are clean nowadays, Google will not index suspicious sites and it will let you know if you're closing to reported malware sometimes. I'm like...

    You see a flashy button? Don't click it

    You see a blinking button? Don't click it

    You see something that looks like it is offering a dubious deal? Don't click it

    Getting ads? AdBlocker

    Want to be safe? HTTPS Everywhere

    I don't say that AV is inherently bad all the way, there are good ones, but I really do advice everyone to read the user agreement and terms of usage before installing an AV if they want to be truly protected.
     
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    Remove Adblock and switch to uBlock origin which can be configured for maximum privacy and uses less CPU than Adblock.
     
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    Thank you!

    I did not know about that! :D
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @Georgel I'd add NoScript to the bunch, at the very least.
     
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    Thank you for the advice! Do you know what it is and what id does? I never heard of it or understood what it should do, this is why I didn't add it. I had a very... very... extreme behavior for me adBlock so it would stop everything from way before it would run dangerous stuffs, but for the sake of it, it would be nice to understand what NoScript is!

    EDIT::: I only see those:

    [​IMG]
     
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    @Georgel it's a browser extension that blocks JavaScript and other scripts, only allowing those you personally whitelisted. It can be frustrating at times, but totally worth if you really care about your security and/or privacy.
     
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    I disabled noscript because it blocks every thing insecure and you need to know how it works.
     
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    I don't know how it works! I don't know what to do there! I really would need some help and advice!
     
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    @Georgel sadly NoScript is not available for Chrome, and from what I read about Chrome alternatives - they are even less user-friendly. \=

    With NoScript, you click on the NoScript icon and choose which websites that try to run scripts on the page you're currently browsing you allow to, now and in future. I imagine the alternatives should behave in similar fashion.
     
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    And what makes US so trust worthy?
    Have people already forgot the whole NSA debacle?
    Heck, NSA even hacked Merkel, a chancellor of Germany, which is one of the closes USA's allies, because that's what allies do, right?
     
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    And what do you do when you can't close it without clicking on it?

    Unfortunately sometimes you can't and that's when what are you going to do now.

    If you going to adware sites then that is your own fault getting hit by those popup ads. Why are you going there in the first place?

    AdBlocker has been compromised by Ad companies already to let some ads through so not thanks... I use my own custom "hosts" edit and it is far better then a paid version that I can control. Any my custom Windows "hosts" files does fine blocking for all Browsers not just one Browsers. I can use IE, Edge, FF, Chrome and the hosts edited file since it is loaded when Windows loads does the job rather then installing a blocker plugin for each Browser or loading the Adblocker program that is compromised by Ad companies forcing them to let specific ads through. I read about this already where Adblock got forced to let ads through even though they claim to block ads of which it no longer does. And I also change my "hosts" file attribute to "Read-Only" that way nothing can change it unless I change it. That further protects redirects/malware from writing homepages or changing my settings. And plus mine doesn't need the Ads Company sending me ads or popups when I don't want their junk or malware that could be riding along with their popup ads.

    Yea like that will stop them.

    Then don't use your CC or Online banking cause your just as likely to get identity theft because you agreed without reading the term of the agreements. You think you will be able to install the software without clicking on the box to continue the install and usage? One just has to search online for Reviews of the A/V software and make their best judgement to the one that fits their need or has what they want. That's a over simplification of the clause.
     
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    Simplest solution, CTRL+W closes any tab in Chrome, you can close anything you like. I have it set on a mouse button...

    Your solution is even better, but then, why do you need an AV? Sounds like you're quite well protected already?

    About readint those terms, some of them do state some things, the advantage is that if they do something against what you read, you can sue them for money, otherwise you're at their mercy.
     
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    Also use the hosts method, plus browser-specific custom blocking for ads hosted by the site itself ('hosts' would block the entire site *). Don't like flashy sites or being bothered with 'social' media stuff and with a site-specific css's you can strip them from all the fluff and in-site ad sections at the same time. Can't stomach a no-script solution though; too much hassle to white-list everything. Https will not help prevent such script infections; as long as the certificate is valid the website will remain 'secure', no matter the content hosted on it. Only after reporting the fraudulent or compromised site can the certificate be pulled and a future user safeguarded.

    Running KAV on several systems and it found a website-embedded trojan yesterday. Visited no strange/suspicious sites (https everywhere active), so wherever it came from it was likely a site with compromised security without its admin being aware of that. Prefer Kaspersky mainly for two reasons; consistently good intercept score year-on-year and close to zero false positives (security should as non-intrusive as possible). The only other contender I'd consider would be Bitdefender. This gets similar top marks, showing there's a good, dedicated team behind the product and thus a minimum of lag between new threats and their remedy.

    That there's NSA tools on K's servers is to be expected; you design a medicine based on the disease, which is impossible without having access to that disease. Acquiring those tools wouldn't be too hard; just find any NSA-targeted system and make an image of its drives (or write your own, based on the leaked sources). On the other hand, their servers being hacked is obviously not a good sign. A diluted version of that happened to Bitdefender, unfortunately.

    Imo, it's silly to focus on country-of-origin; it's good because it is from country A and bad because it is from country B? Heck, the top-5 contenders in AV are Russian, Romanian, Japanese, Spanish and German. Wouldn't like to be a US civil servant system admin and have my choices limited to either Windows Defender or Windows Defender.

    The #1 choice; backups.

    *) Considering to relegate the filter job to the router; every device will benefit and we'll have a bit less traffic. Not sure everyone using the network will like that, but could give it a try for a month or so and see if anyone starts crying. Will forgo the automated solutions; these pull a list from the net and redirect to 0.0.0.0. If that site is compromised or it has a disgruntled employee then the list can happily redirect your bank's site to a dummy, with all the trouble that implies.
     
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    My hosts edits so far hasn't blocked the sites I always go to that aren't scam sites and those that say you need to allow tracking or cookies or popups I take my business other places.

    Those test have known bias.

    It's far better then getting your A/V protection from the FSB A/V program right.

    For most they don't do that-that's a fact. Some are starting to learn the hard way to have another storage medium to save your data/files to without saving to the main drive should it get infected or ransomware.

    Scams and redirects happen on a regular basis and those that get hacked will not tell so unless they get outted. A good update Router and good firewall and A/V is the first line to stopping but should the user use the "Admin/Owner" account to access the internet then your asking for trouble as anything that runs and install will do so because you permitted it to do so already. So user should first make a "Limited" account and use that for their everyday usage and only use the Admin/Owner to install update or do Windows Update-doing this will insure any infections easier to clean and stop but most if a majority of users don't do this and this is where problems starts. Also this is what keeps the job for computer repair shops.
     
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    I haven't run AV only, ever, that I can recall.

    You get the whole Security Suite of tools, and some add-on's for other features.

    Please stop trying to villify AV as if it's for suckers. At least they are thinking in the right direction. Thinking that you can build on and help educate them to add other tools, some you mentioned, some others have mentioned.

    Going naked out into the internet isn't wise, and it isn't brave, and if you think you can figure out every damaging site before clicking on it, you're fooling yourself.

    Adblock is getting long in the tooth, that's why most of us have moved to uBlock Origin, and it's got as much or more control and lists to keep you safer, as long as you keep the lists up to date.

    Again, it's not cool to tell people to go without AV when you know at least some protection is afforded, and using that mind set to protect yourself gives way to adding other tools.

    If you tell them they don't need AV, and someone else tells them they don't need https - I can't get into some sites with https - or someone else tells them that Adblock and uBlock Origin has been hacked with bad downloads - and someone else says never trust "ccleaner" because they got hacked, then all of a sudden they won't run anything.

    It used to take 20 minutes after connecting a machine to the internet for Windows 2000 to get pwned.

    How long does it take Windows 7, 8.1, 10 to get compromised without any protections while browsing the internet and downloading "cool stuff"?

    Not long at all :)
     
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    I stopped using security software several years ago... and stopped allowing Windows Updates 4 or 5 years ago. I have tested a few security products that @Phoenix and @j95 gave me, but after a week or two I am done and remove it. I cannot remember how long it has been (but a good while) since I had a problem with malware. When I had issues with malware I was running reputable security software, LOL.

    I do use TamperMonkey, uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Extra plug-ins with Chrome. Mainly because I don't want to see ads, or listen to stupid auto-play videos blaring that I am not interested in watching, and to keep me logged out of Micro$lop's retarded Skype crap if I sign into my Live webmail account in a browser. I also use host file edits. There are plenty of known bad web sites that can be blocked that way, including some under the Micro$haft umbrella.

    I do not visit naughty and nasty web sites known for malware. Any sensitive files are stored on removable media, and I can diskpart my OS drive and restore a Macrium image if a problem arises.
     
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    No, No, No. You are absolutely correct.

    One should use every one of those programs.

    I sometimes forget that I am a really odd one. I aplogize and take back my words. One should really have both AV and all the measures possible to protect himself!

    Well, seems that @Mr. Fox has a very healthy solution as well. I didn't know that Microsoft had any sites that could be problematic though
     
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    Micro$loth updates (catalog) and telemetry need to be blocked if you want to maintain control of a healthy and stable system and deny them the privilege of collecting information, or making changes to your system without your consent.
     
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    Why it's hard to trust the U.S. on Russia's alleged Kaspersky espionage
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hard-trust-u-s-russias-alleged-kaspersky-espionage-134308101.html

    "The Russian government used antivirus software from the private Russian company Kaspersky to steal classified U.S. data, according to several recent reports.

    The revelations, following months of vague warnings from U.S. officials, suggest that the U.S. has “direct evidence that there are ways to remote into Kaspersky and pull data back without the user’s intention,” David Kennedy, a prominent security consultant and former U.S. Marines hacker, told Yahoo Finance. “And that is very, very scary. That means that anybody in the world that has Kaspersky installed may have the potential to have their data accessed by Kaspersky.”

    But many in the cybersecurity community, such as American cyberwarfare expert Jeffrey Carr, argue that the U.S. government’s allegations shouldn’t be trusted and that “Kaspersky Lab has suffered more slander from more supposedly reputable news outlets than any company in recent memory.”"

    Report: German security group unaware of spies leveraging Kaspersky software
    http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecu...naware-of-spies-leveraging-kaspersky-software

    "A top German federal cybersecurity agency is unaware of Kaspersky Lab software being used in espionage, Reuters reported Wednesday.

    “There are no plans to warn against the use of Kaspersky products since [our agency] has no evidence for misconduct by the company or weaknesses in its software,” the BSI, whose name translates to the Federal Office of Information Security, told Reuters via email.

    Recent news stories have described Russian intelligence agencies using the Moscow-based Kaspersky Lab's antivirus software to search for classified information.
    The Hill reported earlier Wednesday that the House Science, Space and Technology Committee plans to hold a series of hearings on the software, whose use by federal agencies is the subject of a Department of Homeland Security ban."

    Office Depot, Best Buy Pull Kaspersky Products From Shelves
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...est-buy-pull-kaspersky-products-from-shelves/

    "Both Office Depot and Best Buy have removed Kaspersky Lab products from shelves. The ban has been in effect since mid-September, and the two chains are offering existing Kaspersky customers replacement security software."
     
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    Happened again, so extracted the data from the vault; it's a mining script from T|I. Apparently they're using this as an alternative to ads.

    Well ... why not. Blocked the bit that informed the user of the change, so never saw that message. Mighty tempting to add ' Coinhive' to the hosts list though: it can be embedded in any tool, so not catching or blocking this sort of thing elevates background cpu use, increases temperatures, diminishes battery time and lowers benchmarks.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Now that we are here, and having this conversation, what is the absolutely best free AV program you know?
     
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    After Spying Scandal, Kaspersky Promises to Submit Software for Review in a Bid to Win Back Trust
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    "Moscow-based Kaspersky Lab is trying to reestablish consumer trust after the Trump administration’s decision to ban its products citing national security risks. The company has promised that it will open up its antivirus product to independent parties to review it for security."

    Kaspersky’s plans to “overcome mistrust “
    In a brief statement released today (via Reuters), the Russian AV firm has now promised opening up to independent researchers who can verify that its products are fortified against government hacks.

    “We’ve nothing to hide,” the company’s Chairman and CEO Eugene Kaspersky said. “With these actions we’ll be able to overcome mistrust and support our commitment to protecting people in any country on our planet.”

    While the company hasn’t named who will be reviewing the source code, its statement suggests that an “independent source code review” will be “undertaken with an internationally recognized authority” and will start by Q1, 2018.



     
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    Might be too little, too late... Best Buy stops sale of Russia-based Kaspersky products

    Best Buy sells a ton of stuff to people that like to think of themselves as being tech savvy, but frequently are not... kind of like the Walmart of electronics... lots of average/ordinary stuff. Not saying Kaspersky or Best Buy are bad. Only an observation that if it is not on the shelf when they want to spend their money, the sheeple will buy something else.
     
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    Barclays Bank give me free Kaspersky with Internet Banking, I have use it off and on for years, But i prefer Avast as the firewall is easier to use, Also for the last 6 month Kaspersky has been in the news linked to the Russian government, I have been expecting Barclay to drop Kaspersky.

    Free Avast would be nice, Please not Mcafee for the love of god not Mcafee.

    John.
     
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    Ahahahaha, that MCafee thingy is really awful. Most companies get it because they offer really good prices though

    I remember using ESET or NOD32 something something back when I was using AV software. Did that one fall down?

    Also, Romania has a lot of development for Bit Defender. How is that in the large picture?
     
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    Kaspersky's Software Has Copied Non-Threatening, Inactive Files :D
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    "Kaspersky's antivirus software has in some cases grabbed files from user computers in an arguably improper way. CEO Eugene Kaspersky has confirmed its software sometimes takes files that aren't immediately threatening , which has generated some concern."

    "Because the Russian antivirus company is already facing claims of improperly using its software to help the Russian government, any evidence of collecting "inactive" or non-threatening files is likely to be met with questions."

    And why should you trust more on Micro$haft? Or Facebook + all the other spy boxes out there?:rolleyes: Kaspersky just follow the rest:p
     
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    Trump Administration Finds Kaspersky Products in About One-Sixth of All US Agencies – Cleanup Begins
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    "In a statement to Congress earlier today, DHS has said that about one-sixth of all government agencies have detected some trace of Kaspersky Lab’s software on their systems."

    "Jeanette Manfra, assistant secretary for cyber security and communications at DHS, told Congress that all but six of the government’s 102 agencies have submitted reports to DHS about removing Kaspersky products. Manfra added that the Department has no “conclusive evidence” at the moment that suggests that any of those networks were breached as a result of their use of Kaspersky software."
     
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    Kaspersky Ban Gets Trump Approval – US President Signs Federal Ban on Russian Company into Law

    While signed into bill now, Kaspersky has already written off its government contracts anyway following the initial ban earlier in September. The Russian cybersecurity company closed its Washington offices and said it will start focusing on private clients, including the financial sector. The company has continued to deny any and all allegations. However, Christopher Krebs, a senior cybersecurity official at the Department of Homeland Security, said (via Reuters) today that the company’s response to the ban did not “contain any information that would change the administration’s assessment of Kaspersky Lab.”

    “The case against Kaspersky is well-documented and deeply concerning,” Senator Jeanne Shaheen said in a statement. “This law is long overdue, and I appreciate the urgency of my bipartisan colleagues on the Senate Armed Services Committee to remove this threat from government systems.”
     
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