So i wanted an AV that was not a resource hog and could also protect my notebook really well. Which would you guys recommend?
MSE/MBAM
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Avast/MBAM
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Gandalf_The_Grey Notebook Evangelist
Have a look at the first post of this forum: http://forum.notebookreview.com/security-anti-virus-software/190538-best-free-security-software.html -
That is an opinion, not a fact. State it as such. I use Avast+Comodo, with MBAM in the background, and if you set up avast right it will not slow down your computer. There are options in it that will, and it tells you that they will. MSE is definitely lighter than Avast, but Avast is not so bloated that it will slow down your system. I don't use all the shields though, just the basics, file, web, p2p, network and script. Avast IMO is also more configurable than MSE, and has more features.
Edit: Just for note, avast on my system is currently eating up, 14mb of ram. And 0-1 cpu cycles when passively protecting. -
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usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate
I use MSE + MBAM and have had zero issues on my system. Safe browsing habits are most important. If you do not have these, then a more comprehensive security suite may work better for you.
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On my G73, I use Avast + Comodo. On my M18x I use Avira + Comodo. I find both combinations to be really effective and have zero issues on both systems.
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Gandalf_The_Grey Notebook Evangelist
And that fact is my opinion -
No, I don't have trust in their reports.
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Furthermore, in the first report, MSE doesn't beat Avast! in any significant categories where both were tested. In fact Avast! beats MSE in the on-demand test, and MSE beats Avast! in the removal test. In categories where one was tested and the other wasn't, MSE 'beat' Avast in the Retrospective Test, and 'loses' the performance test, 1st half whole product dynamic test, and the 2nd half whole product dynamic test.
On the second link, the latest Dec 11 report lists MSE as rated higher in Repair, equal in Usability, and lower (2.0 vs 5.0) in protection - which is quite contrary to your statement.
And lastly, on the 3rd link, the latest Flash test shows 80 samples with 46 passed and 34 failed for Avast, and 14 passed and 66 failed for MSE. Their Antimalware PUA's test showed and mentioned Avast! as having good detection, with MSE coming in tied for last place with SUPERAntiSpyware. In the Financial and PPI PUA test, Avast also beat MSE.
Did you even read the reports posted by the sites you linked to??? Their facts do not support your opinion.
The forum post you linked to also shows Avast! having a higher detection and false positive rate - and I'll admit avast! when cranked up does churn up more fp's than usual, but I would rather take that and a higher detection rate than the lower detection rate of MSE and the fewer fp's - but that's a personal choice.
EDIT: And for the record, I'm not hating on MSE. I install it on a lot of computers because I think it provides good enough protection and requires less fiddling with and maintenance for the less tech savvy than us here at NBR. But saying product X is better than Y in absolute terms, and linking to a post from 2007 (albeit it was updated in '11) and later reports that are contrary to the statement, or at the least don't support it, is bad practice. -
ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
MSE for me, have used Avast it works but do prefer MSE
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Gandalf_The_Grey Notebook Evangelist
I said go with Avast because of the (current) higher level of protection.
Thanks for proving my point
Personally I would go with Panda Cloud Antivirus Free but that is a completely other discussion... and not the question.
Maybe Windows 8 will change things in favor of MSE/Windows Defender: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/15/protecting-you-from-malware.aspx?Redirected=true -
Programs have been removed when obsolete and some have been added to keep the post non-bloated and up-to-date. Scores have been updated also.
Kust kidding MAA83. No offense and no offense taken.
I'm stepping in because the scores in that post are for on-demand detection only. Those are not real-life/on-execution scores (as mentioned in the post).
The MRG Effitas scores f.i. are more relevant from that pov, they are relevant to a much smaller set of test samples, albeit well chosen, highly prevalent and very harmful malware test samples.
(If only AV-Comparatives would have the same Whole Product Dynamic Test link for AV's also).
Let's not bicker and argue about who outscores who. It's pointless.
As you wrote, for lots of users MSE is just fine, others will be bothered by the 'abundance' of options from Avast AV and the somewhat larger amount of FP's.
1 question though, why don't you have any trust in the AV-testing organizations? You think they are subjective by definition, bribed/paid to favor certain companies or do you think the tests are simply irrelevant? If so, why? -
No I congratulate you for keeping it updated! I've personally found that post helpful when I was searching for an Avira alternative some time ago. And yes Gandolf I did misread you, I thought you were recommending MSE over Avast - I had a aixelsyd moment
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The only reason I don't trust AV reports is because for all their claims to impartiality, I'm skeptical of weather they really are impartial. Most of their 'about us' sections say it, but who really knows. -
I use MBAM by itself... Which I haven't ACTUALLY used in like a year... No viruses though, and I've never caught a virus with MBAM on my computer...
I really don't see a point to AV anymore. Only place you would get it is by executing some unknown program, which won't happen if you have common sense. -
Hi folks,
I am assuming OP is talking about MBAM "Free" ... if that is the case then how can MBAM alone protect his PC when Surfing around!
In different Thread someone suggested that we don't really need an AV or anything else ... just 2 things ... 1) Common Sense 2) Good Safe Surfing Habit. Well, I personally would rather be Over-Protected than none at all!
Plus, what is the sense of internet and surfing, if once in a while you can't live on the "Wild" side ...
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Basically browser security is basic and could be cracked by any modern malware. -
Avast is better than MSE , but Avast slow down my PC. AVG free 2012 has better free product.
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LOL , MSE don`t update automatically ? FIND Every morning update, but do not automatically installed. find that UPDATE AS OPTIONAL, SO DO NOT automatically installed. I have to give her hand.
MSE+MBAM or Avast+MBAM
Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by KayC, Jan 11, 2012.