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    Kaspersky or Nod32

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by taelrak, May 18, 2007.

  1. taelrak

    taelrak Lost

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    This has probably been debated over and over again, but what's your opinion of Kaspersky 6 AV vs Nod32 2.7 (or whatever it's up to now)?

    My impression is, the latest version of Kaspersky isn't the huge slow bloated thing that previous versions were--and it's exceedingly good at detecting known viruses, but horrible at heuristics.

    Nod32 is great at heuristics (comparatively), but not so good at removing other viruses and malware. Also isn't very bloated.

    So, which is better?
     
  2. Techneaux

    Techneaux Notebook Enthusiast

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    Try AntiVIR.

    http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html
    Scores better than NOD32 and Kaspersky in virus detection... other people on this forum seem to consider that site very reliable.

    Also I believe that site shows that AntiVIR has same heuristics scanning capabilities of NOD32 (and both much better than Kaspersky).
     
  3. kosh

    kosh Notebook Consultant

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    I have been usig nod32 in my desktop for some years and works very well, and it is very fast
     
  4. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    You said Kaspersky but if you mean Kaspersky Internet Security and not just Kaspersky antivirus then I would advise anyone to get that over Nod32. This is because the internet security has a firewall, spyware blocking tools etc currently it is one of the top rated internet security suites out there (I think only zonealarm beats it). Kaspersky antivirus on its own is a very good antivirus but I gave up a long time ago the idea of having separate antivirus and firewall programs only internet security suites for me!
    I have been using Kaspersky Internet security for a long time now, and no kaspersky's antivirus products are no longer "bloated", actually it is quite fast, updates several times a day and uses very little resources :).
     
  5. zarono

    zarono Notebook Guru

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    NoD 32 all the way.
     
  6. taelrak

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    To clarify, I'm only referring to antivirus, and not internet security suites. Along the same line as above - what is more useful, being able to track almost all known viruses, or being able to detect potentially dangerous new viruses with heuristics?
     
  7. Matt

    Matt Notebook Deity

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    That's a good question. Think about it this way. If your anti-virus software is great at detecting potentially dangerous threats and it never fails, would you need a virus scanner? No. However, that's only in theory. What about viruses you obtained before installing the anti-virus software?

    Also, it works the other way around. If your anti-virus software just scans for viruses, they might have time to do some damage before they're found.

    Ideally, you want to prevent them, not eliminate them after you've gotten them. Unfortunately, there is no anti-virus software that can guarantee it'll catch everything. Therefore, the conclusion is to either trust an anti-virus program that prevents viruses or get one of each type of software.

    This is only my take on things, though.

    Matt
     
  8. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    In my opinion Kaspersky, because it will soon get updated to a new version (7) with a great heuristics engine, better than NOD's in my opinion. Also, there's a similar resource use. Why not test them both on your laptop?
    AntiVir is the only free reliable AV in terms of virus detection.
     
  9. ivar

    ivar Notebook Deity

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    Everytime I was experimenting with antiviruses which use Kaspersky engine, it lead to a mess on my test system. Fortunately, I was ready for it.

    There are reasons to mistrust this software based on the origin of KAV.

    I also noticed that F-secure lists in its data base some specific viruses which
    attack only machines with non-russian keyboard. Try to find those listed in KAV database.

    Recent politically motivated cyberattacks originated from Russia on one of the NATO memberstates on the Baltic Sea have involved more than 1.000.000 computers worldwide. I am just guessing if the naive customers of KAV are not among those zobmied PCs.


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  10. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    Why did you give me negative rep for simply stating my OPINION ? :confused: :mad: Quote from Ivar (kaspersky is russian spyware)

    This is your opinion that you have drawn up from a GUESS!!! Kaspersky does absolutely nothing to my system to "mess it up" as you have claimed and believe me I know my computer very well and if something suspicious was going on I would have seen it long ago :rolleyes: . Have you even used a recent version of their product to be able to make such outlandish claims? Also remember this was a pole I can vote for whatever I want!

    I work really hard to help people out on these forums and I don't give them any bad information, I usually think long and hard before I post something just to make sure that it can help anyone who needs it. But you are just guessing here and nothing else!

    I wonder the other people who voted for kaspersky did you give them negative rep to ? I hope someone sees this and realized what happened here, I was penalized for simply stating my opinion in a pole...
     
  11. Fusionburn

    Fusionburn Notebook Consultant

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    My vote is for Nod32. Have you also considered Bitdefender?
     
  12. ivar

    ivar Notebook Deity

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    Evolution,

    please kindly accept my public apology. I did it emotionally. With full respect to your sincere wish to help people I promise to give you back what I took. :)

    Fusionburn,

    I tested both nod32 and bitdefender working at the same time. My conclusions was that bitdefender has more effective heuristic. However, I removed it because
    sometimes it was just too aggressive with taking the computing resurces. If I would be able to get for free, I would probabbly still keep it on my notebook in order to make regular extra scans.
     
  13. taelrak

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    lxFOCUSxl Notebook Consultant

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    AVG ****ers
     
  15. Aerozolic

    Aerozolic Notebook Consultant

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    Nothing else to say than NOD32 FTW!
     
  16. qohelet

    qohelet Senior Member

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    both are good antivir. however, i'm currently using nod 32.
     
  17. sathyaterry

    sathyaterry Notebook Evangelist

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    Im usin kaspersky.. But when i try to install the kaspersky internet security i get a msg sayin i have to remove the kaspersky anti virus..
    what shud i do? which is bttr?whats the dif btw the 2?
     
  18. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    You can't have kaspersky anti-virus installed at the same time as the internet security. This is because the internet security also has the anti-virus component included this is why it is telling you to remove anti-virus version you have installed. You need to remove the anti-virus and then install the internet security, this is the only way...

    The difference between the 2 is the internet security has a firewall built in as well as anti-spam and other components designed to keep your computer safe from the "wilds" of the internet, while the anti-virus alone is just that an anti-virus application.
     
  19. sathyaterry

    sathyaterry Notebook Evangelist

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    So technically the kaspersky internet security is better than kaspersky anti virus??
    But then.. Mcafee allows me to install 10 applications(virusscan,spamkiller,etc)? but i cant install 2 kaspersky applications??

    Should install mcafee which has all the applications..? i dont think there wud be any change in perfomance as i have a core2 duo 1.83GHx processor with a gig of ram..
    Will my laptop slow down?
    or shud i continue with my kaspersky anti virus? or remove it in favour of kaspersky internet security?

    Which shud be my ultimate choice ?

    Mcafee?
    Kaspersky Anti virus?
    Kaspersky internet security?

    Sorry for askin so many questions..
     
  20. Sneaky_Chopsticks

    Sneaky_Chopsticks Notebook Deity

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    I Choose neither. You should go with the Zonealarm Security Suite. It's firewall is so good, that it's almost impossible for viruses to go through.lol

    Their Anti-Virus is very good, and quite thorough. With the use of its anti spy-ware, you have a secure, safe, computer.

    THere are many other features.

    Here's th website that you can compare. I highly recommend this program for your personal computer defense.

    http://www.zonealarm.com/store/cont...znalm/comparison.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en
     
  21. sathyaterry

    sathyaterry Notebook Evangelist

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    Isnt zone alarm really bloated and slows down ur pc greatly..? a friend of mine uses it and it has slowed down his pc drastically..
     
  22. taelrak

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    Zonealarm Internet Security uses Kaspersky 6.0 for its AV.

    It actually slowed down my computer a bit too, but not anywhere near as bad as Norton. Overall I liked it...I can't quite remember why I decided not to use it after the free trial though...
     
  23. skywalker

    skywalker Business Notebook FTW!!

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    I dont like ZoneAlarm, if you would like to use Internet Security, try Kaspersky Internet Security.
     
  24. cypher909

    cypher909 Newbie

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    I vote NOD32. Here's a repost from another thread:

    I have an old computer. If something hogs too much resources I will instantly notice a slow down, so a smooth, clean, quick AV is a must for me. I've been running AVG for years and it works great. It seems to run a tiny bit faster on this machine than NOD32, but such a small amount that it doesn't make a difference.

    Kaspersky - First off I didn't like its layout that much. It didn't seem very user friendly, but that's not a problem as long as it does what it's suppose to do.

    The first thing I noticed was a major slow down from AVG. I keep hearing how people call it light on resources, it hogged a ton more than AVG and with a lower end computer such as mine the slow down was unacceptable. It was actually only marginally faster than McAfee which was a real disappointment. It does have a high detection rate so if you have a high end machine and/or can handle the slow down, go for it.

    The other thing about Kaspersky is it will not leave you alone. I'm sure you can change it in the settings somewhere, but it continuously spammed me with "____ program is doing _____... do you want to allow it?" and other such messages.

    I ran a complete scan which was very smooth and it found nothing.

    NOD32 - I like the layout a lot. It was very easy to use, but again when picking an AV that means nothing to me.

    I was amazed at how little resources it uses. It idles at 2 to 4 MB. It didn't increase my boot time at all as far as I could tell when Kaspersky had increased it quite a bit. It was basically the same as running AVG. Very smooth, light, and quick. My old system can handle it easily. Like Kaspersky, NOD32 also has a very high detection rate, but without all the annoyances.

    I ran a complete scan with NOD32 and it was the only one that caught the key logger I had installed that both AVG and Kaspersky had missed. It also CAUGHT 2 OTHER VIRUSES that I didn't even know I had. The scan wasn't quite as smooth as Kaspersky. It did take about 20% longer, but I'll trade that off for actually finding viruses.

    I'm really happy I found this thread and tested those two out. I will definitely go with Eset NOD32 next time I buy an AV, but for now when my 30 day trial runs out I'll head back to AVG. It's done a good job of saving my but plenty of times in the past.

    PS. Just for the record, I do a lot of browsing at random and sometimes very sketchy sites.
     
  25. Murdoc

    Murdoc Notebook Evangelist

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    Nod32. I was skeptical when my friend first told me about Nod32 although I have seen that brand before as its software is being sold at retail stores. I started using Norton at first but it has been agreed by majority that the software is too much of a memory hog and it's "too secure". I took the next step and found AVG which at that time I found was extremely resource friendly and provided me with a simple enough to use interface (although not beautiful, but it works) and the best part was "it's free". However, my computer gradually slowed down and I wonder what was happening. Weird things started happening to my computer and I suspect a virus maybe undetected. I tried also kaspersky but noticed that it is way more resource demanding than AVG (although not as bad as Norton). When my computer was doing scans with Kaspersky my music player (Winamp) would lag and movies would not be as smooth (I have p4 2.4 ghz processor w/ 1 GB ram and running XP). Although it detected the virus (which AVG missed), it still fail to out perform nod32. I downloaded a virus on purpose just to test to see if it could detect it. Both AVG and Kaspersky completely missed the file while Nod32 caught it and requested to submit it to their virus control center for further examination. When I installed Nod32, I was expecting a bloat ware and to my surprise it was smooth. Even though it was running at lightning speed (which I would expect CPU resource hog), I didn't feel that a scan was going on when playing music or movies. I liked its heuristics scanning which monitors programs I download to even websites I visit seemlessly which both Kaspersky and AVG did not have. Nod32 had constant updates (way more than Kaspersky and AVG). Infact, it there are 2-4 updates per a day and the software would instantly download the latest updates. Again, both avg and kaspersky failed to do this.

    On a whole Interface for Nod32 was easy to get used to. Their memory and cpu process power usage were kept mininal. They also have frequent updates (that automatically download and install without restarting the software or windows in any way). I guess this makes Nod32 the winner :)