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    Kaspersky Internet security VS antivirus!?!

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by Satyrion, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    I see Kaspersky internet security 2009 costs 55 bucks while kaspersky antivirus 2009 costs 39 bucks. Whats the difference of these 2 programs and which one is better?
     
  2. ivar

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    No difference, both make you vulnarable to malicious soft from Russia, as Mr. Kaspersky is a collaborator of Russian FSB service, and one of the coordinators of Russian internet attacks on those who don't obey Putin's regime of KGB-FSB mafia.

    I advice you better spend your $$$. F-secure is one of the best AV progs which I found to take special care about the malware originating from Russia (including
    Kaspaersky lab or those next door to it and trained by Kaspersky).
     
  3. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    So by buying this program i support KGB? Wow i already feel like a gangster crime lord of Russia the motherland! :D

    Anyway i already bought Kaspersky Internet security 2009 for 60 bucks!
     
  4. ivar

    ivar Notebook Deity

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    too bad for you and your country. :mad:
    i am not joking here.
     
  5. Baserk

    Baserk Notebook user

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    But....but....F-Secure uses different scanning engines like Hydra, Blacklight and AVP. (Some others in it's online scanner..)
    And the AVP engine used, is from Kaspersky.
    So that would mean that the good Hydra and Blacklight are fighting against the bad AVP engine?
    So F-Secure's net result would be 0??? J/K ;)
     
  6. huh

    huh Notebook Enthusiast

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    KIS has more functions than KAV. You can refer here: kaspersky.com/compare
     
  7. turmherr

    turmherr Notebook Enthusiast

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    For me kaspersky does well...
    Compaired to other AV programs ive had, kasper tends to pick up what other AV's dont. Also they update alot more often.
     
  8. ivar

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    The main danger is not the engine itself but in the "virus updates" you are unprotectedly delivered to while using KAV. On the "day X" you can get whatever KGB-FSB wants to install on your PC. It is just shortsighted that EU and US governments are not banning this product from their markets, especially given the fact that Russia is not yet a WTO member and does not obey the rules of WTO.

    It is rather a myth, and this statistics is easily explained by the fact that the very same malware is produced next door to the kaspersky lab, if not by the very same people - this helps to "protect" you from the viruses other AV progs have to recognize using their heuristic algorithms. However, you are totally delivered to the intentional distribution of malware with the updates. If you want to trust to KGB/FSB people, and have your PC working to attack your country or my country, you are on the best track to that with using KAV.
     
  9. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Hm, that's all fine and dandy but do you have any proof?

    Seems a little pricey. I paid $30 for KIS two years ago and $50 to renew my subscription a year later, which came with 3 licenses (~$16/license), so I threw it on two other computers. I have to renew again in Feb 2009.
     
  10. ivar

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    What can be a proof on the forum... I exchange my opinion with (what seems to be a club of) KAV funboys here, :p and warn others before they spend their dollars for a product of a FSB(KGB) collaborateur.
     
  11. Baserk

    Baserk Notebook user

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    Ivar, funboys?
    Really?
    People who use KAV are considered stylish and of indeterminate sexual orientation e.g. classic metrosexuals?
    Do you also have a surprising description for Avira users (like me)? :D
    Cheers.
     
  12. THAANSA3

    THAANSA3 Exit Stage Left

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    Is this a joke?
     
  13. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    LOL Funboy? You make a massively bold and unsupported statement like this and I'm the funboy. Puh-lease :rolleyes:

    Well how did you form your opinion. Surely their must be some shred of evidence to support your theory. I am not saying I need to see documents signed by Kaspersky and Putin on collaborating to infiltrate foreign Governments with malware but there must be something out there that helped you come to this conclusion, no?
     
  14. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    No they don't, trust me, I work for the <del>KGB</del> FSB.
     
  15. huh

    huh Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh man, politics in here!!? So, do Antivirus softwares of American company involve with CIA? lol :p
     
  16. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Actually it seems the FBI uses Kaspersky too! lol

    http://cert.gov.sa/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=177&Itemid=77

    Oh and here's an article with the Guy from F-Secure claiming Americans are helping the Russian "Storm Worm Gang" not Kaspersky.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/31/storm_worm_protection/

     
  17. lordvader

    lordvader Notebook Evangelist

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    Is Kaspersky Internet security 2009
    something like Norton 360 ?

    Would be nice to buy something with everything in it
    or is not good to get the 360, meaning to get it all

    Plz help
     
  18. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    no not really the same. it does a lot but doesnt have all (imo) uneeded junk 360 has
     
  19. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Kas Internet Security is a suite of security tools similar to 360 or Eset. As for which is better... Kaspersky and Eset are rated the highest pretty much across the board. Norton products tend to be quite bloated, resource intensive and do not remove themselves completely. Kaspersky when uninstalled does. The last time I used a Norton product (years ago) it was horribly buggy as well.

    Compare Kas:
    http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/internet-security.php
     
  20. ivar

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    To quote Saudi Arab sources about FBI should be an act of desperation. :p
    Why not to add here all the crap as to how FBI, CIA and Mossad have organized 09/11... :D

    "but we believe it's a Russian gang with an American or several Americans helping them to build the social engineering messages and the websites they use."

    Are you one of them, or those are the fanboys of KAV who are meant here? :D
     
  21. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    I posted that as a cheeky reply. Obviously sarcasm dumbfounds you. And you still have yet to produce one single paltry, lame-a55, piece of evidence to support your claims so maybe you should STFU. :rolleyes:
     
  22. ivar

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    Do you expect everything bad what is done by Russia to have parallels in USA?
    Do you believe Russian KGB-FSB criminal record has parallels in the practices of CIA? This is the logic behind your reply. No further comments.
     
  23. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    ^^ Go away troll.
     
  24. ivar

    ivar Notebook Deity

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    KAV fanboys go personal? :eek: :( Is this "antivirus" produced by a loyal officer of Russian FSB worthy of that?
     
  25. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    All I am asking is for you to produce some kind of evidence of your claims... is that so hard? Without anything to back you up your claims are worthless. Your posts and "fanboy" name calling are looking to incite arguments over your worthless claims and I would appreciate you stop name calling, go away or support your unsubstantiated statement without flaming. Otherwise consider yourself reported. Thank you.
     
  26. Baserk

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    Guys, let's stop this almost political discussion on an antivirus program.
    Ivar, we've been there before.
    Thunderball, it's no use either to tell someone to STFU and ask that person for facts to substantiate his claim.
    Let's give it a rest or otherwise open a thread in the political sub forum if needed.
    Cheers.
     
  27. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    I asked him before. My STFU comment was in his ignoring it and trying to bait others into a pointless argument. And I agree, why is he trying to turn this help thread into a political discussion?
     
  28. ivar

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    Warning people about the potential dangers of KAV antivirus is a kind of help I can provide based on what I know (and that goes far beyond the one minute of googling the key words type of arguments). Sorry that the argument may seem to be political though, as well as a brainless promotion and implementation of this product. The reaction to my posts is also quite illuminating. ;) Everyone makes his mind based on that. :rolleyes: :D
     
  29. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Without anything to backup your claims you might as well be warning us of alien attacks from Mars, the Robot Apocalypse and the Four Horseman.
     
  30. ivar

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    Probably it is easier to backup those based on the googling type of arguments than to catch Kaspersky lab red handed. However, I personally cought Kaspersky lab orchestrating an attack which was publically blamed on "islamic chechen terrorists" (and affecting US, by the way). Do you want a link to that? None exists ... anymore.

    To produce an evidence one should make huge analytic job, use the sources not only in English language, and do it systematically. To discuss know how publically just means helping Kaspersky lab not to get cought next time.

    If you think you can trust your computer security to a software promoted by a foreign (especially Russian) security service with a known criminal record, like Russia's FSB, the choice is yours (but don't forget about the opportunities the "virus updates" provide to those who send them to your PC). If you ask me an easier question to "prove" if Mr Kaspersky is a collaborateur of FSB, and his lab works under close supervision, if not under full control of FSB, just think what would be a proof in this case and what would be the value of it if it would be as easy to google out as the "proofs" that "CIA with Mossad etc. have arranged 09/11 in order to ... " whatever :eek:.

    I can well imagine that for some innocent, politically virgin americans it all may sound difficult to comprehend and "too political".
     
  31. zfactor

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    no offense but.... cmon man.. stop while you are ahead
     
  32. lordvader

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    I have Kaspersky Internet security
    when I run Full scan
    it gets Stuck at 55%
    jams my Laptop & also had a Blur on my Screen
    any suggestions Plz ?

    should I re-install to org setting & tollay clean my Laptop ?
     
  33. Baserk

    Baserk Notebook user

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    Please, don't double post.
    See my answer in your other post.