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    AV-Test 9/2015 Results

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    hm, too bad they didnt include qihoo, thats usually the best free av suite :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    They removed Qihoo after discovering that the Chinese company is using its users' data.
     
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    shocking, which av suite doesnt do that? :rolleyes:
     
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    Only 2, ESET and Emsisoft. For those who value their privacy!

    Please read this carefully, it will change your opinion about other AVs:

    Has The Antivirus Industry Gone Mad?!
     
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    I just installed Avast and it did not install Dropbox or any other PUP. I've been a long time user of Avast and it has never left me unsatisfied. When I don't feel like paying for a license, I get the free version and set it on gaming mode and forget about it.
     
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    Avast is indeed a very nice application. Not only does it offer good protection as free version but the paid one which includes a firewall (I think it's called Avast Premier) is even better.The firewall is quite decent and the whole thing has a very small footprint as far as resources go.

    As for bundling other software with free versions of AVs - why the outrage? It's free and all you have to do not to get those unwanted add-ons is to un-check a box. Anyone dumb enough not to read what they are installing deserves to get a nasty surprise.
     
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    Yeah I've used it for many years now and I have never had an issue. Putting it on gaming mode stops the pop up nags on the free version and it is indeed light on resources. Sandbox mode on the full version is really nice for apps that are sketchy.
     
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    I'm curious as to whether there's been any word on MS improving their MSE/Defender in Windows 10?

    Now, I've been using MSE for years now, and all laptops that had it installed didn't experience a problem... it was able to catch numerous issues, and I also used third party software like Panda Free to recheck, and everything was clean.

    I don't understand why MSE is not seen as good.
    In real life scenarios, it seems to function as good as any other product (at least it has been for me and other people for whom I installed it).
    Couple it with Malwarebytes, and you're set.

    Heck, my cousin had Norton installed on his Windows 8.1, and once I removed it and replaced it with Defender, it was able to find 2 things that Norton missed.

    From other programs, I tried Avast and Panda.
    Panda seems interesting (if anything for trying a little bit of change), though I went back to MSE (on my Win 7)
     
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    MSE has the worst detection rates and a lot of false positives. If you know how to use your computer securely (stay away from torrents, don't browse sketchy parts of the Web, don't use IE, don't open attachments from people you don't know, etc) then MSE/Windows Defender are perfectly fine, especially if you are using MalwareBytes in combination with it since most infections these days are malware, not viral in nature.
     
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    MSE in my experience has the lowest rate of false positives.
    Some files that were intricate to my work were labelled as false positives by other software like Avast... but MSE was fine in that regard always.

    As for its detection rates being worst - we're mainly talking about synthetic tests and not real life situations ( though you are more accurate in the premise that most attacks today are based in malware, not viruses as such).

    Besides, I always used free MBAM anyway... I don't use IE, I have https everywhere, Adblock and do not follow extentions.
    As for web browsing... I go to various 'shady' websites fairly regularly and don't get issues.
    In regards to not opening emails from people I don't know... that's fairly self implied. Heck I even avoid opening some files that came from other people unless I was expecting them to send the link or the file.
     
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    In all my years with Avast I've never gotten a false positive. Then again I go between periods of not using anything to using something for awhile and back again. I go wherever I want to on the net, I just know how to protect myself without the annoyance of security software. It really all depends on how adept you are with computers. It sounds like you are pretty well covered in that department so I'd recommend less security for you (just stay with MBAM and MSE) but for the average person, I always recommend Avast.
     
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    Adeptness does play a large role, but even for the 'average person', MSE seems enough - at least, none of the people's computers I installed MSE on complained of issues (and we're talking about people who know very little about computers and only use it for general stuff).
     
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    CAREFULLY people don't like hearing that.....
     
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    I was boiling inside when I read that but I decided not to post a reply at it may sound very rude..... at the end of the day, if one has any bit of safety when using MSE/Windows Defender then may the lord be with them on this adventure, it's like playing with fire then getting burned one day and complaining......why did I get burned?
     
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    Everyone is free to choose what A/V they want to use but as anything-whether someone else likes it or not that's for them to choose from. Computers User get burned because they choose the path by downloading infected torrents or going to shady sites and then complaining I got infected-I would say why did you go to those site and download infected torrents you asked for it now live with your consequences-there is no excuse when people do that and now you pay to get it fixed and come complaining how your A/V doesn't work. I go with this "FACT" the A/V is 20% of the protection and the user is 80% responsible for the other infections-once the user(Admin/Owner) permits the software to "RUN" that is where it starts the A/V isn't going to stop if they "Permit" it to install or run-That's roughly where all the infections starts from. This is a known "FACT" that those with infected system will "NEVER" admit to til it is forced into their face to admit to it. I have family members and co-workers using MSE and had no complaints - from my co-worker he talks about how it doesn't bog down his system compared to AVG free from before when he had it installed on his Vista system. So that to me tells me some A/V are taxing for some system when it should really be about being less taxing on the system resources and doing it job with the least obtrusiveness on the user limited resources. And being a Savvy/Tweaker user wanting any and all ounce of juice from my system - MSE hasn't failed me so far and I know I have a program MSE has flagged in the past that say it's infected and I use that as a test to see if it still works and it does still tell me when I test it with the file so I know MSE works.
     
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    Agreed about the part that the AV is just 20% of the protection. In fact, out of the systems I get to repair, 50% actually have Kaspersky installed yet they complain about annoying popups, system slow down, etc, that is because they installed some programs bundled with PUPs that Kaspersky installed.

    I won't use MSE myself though as when it comes to free AVs, there are better options like Bitdefender Free for example, has no ads, no nags, nothing, just a small AV that is effective albeit doesn't have any options, like you can't exclude any folders from being scanner or anything, it's like a set it and forget it program. Good enough for your average joe. Again, this is my choice and as you said, it's a personal choice how one wants to protect their system.
     
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    That is why A/V are only good as the user if they permit such install no A/V can stop it.

    If that is the case using the same lines just insert MSE into Bitdefender free (which will eventually update to start putting out ads-don't think they will not do that) also a plus MSE doesn't and will not put ads or pop ads and I get the same results.