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    AV-Comparatives - Nov 09 tests...

    Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by arjunned, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. arjunned

    arjunned Notebook Deity

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    New proactive test just out at AV Comparatives.

    Cheers.

    P.S.- Ref.: Wilders
     
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  2. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    Hah, Norton and Avirar are way worse :rolleyes:
     
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    yuyi64 Notebook Consultant

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    If by "Avirar" you mean Avira (and not some new AV I'm unfamiliar with), then I don't see how you reach the "way worse" conclusion. Avira is # 1 in detection and it received an advanced rating overall, so the report doesn't support your sensationalistic statement.
     
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    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    yeah I mean Avira.
    Oh #1 really? Did you even read the report?
    Sure if has advanced rating, but others are advanced+.
    It even has more false positives than other avs.

    Compared to the result before, yes it's way worse.
     
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    yuyi64 Notebook Consultant

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    The results are pretty much the same as the previous report so you obviously didn't read either report. Both reports show high detection rate/high false positives for Avira and both reports gave it an Advanced rating. By any logical interpretation that would indicate its performance and rating remain the same; definitely not "way worse" as you misleadingly claim. I will take a higher number of false positives in exchange for a higher detection rate because I can usually spot the false positives myself or quarantine the ones I'm unsure about until I can get more information.
     
  6. arjunned

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    Yes. I agree with you also.
     
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    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    I am with you as well. Avira has the superb detection rate. It's rated Advance but not Advance+ because of it's false positive is too high I guess.
    And my beloved MSSE came along nicely with Advance+ certified. On top of that, MSSE is FREE yet perform like a PAID version.

    Norton is doomed currently. Just like Kaspersky was doomed in the previous AV test. Now, Kaspersky shine again~
     
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    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The last comparison was "On demand" this one is "proactive" - but still, KIS messes up computer performance :( 2010 is a mess :( - I moved to MSE from KIS due to that... (and because I got a SSD)
     
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    When judging the final rating, ' Advanced+' or ' Advanced', one has to take into account, the detection score level and the number of false positives.
    As the previous AV-Comparatives report shows, the 'False Positive' limit was set at 16.

    So, if different antivirus programs (A versus B), both score the same detection rate, but program A scores 15 false positives and program B scores 16 false positives, then program A gets an Advanced+ rating.
    Program B gets a degraded Advanced rating, just because it scored ONE more false positive.

    Examples from the AV-Comparatives report nr. 23 (PDF link) and nr. 24 combined;
    Avira detection; 74%, number of FP's; 21. Rating: Advanced
    Eset detection; 60%, number of FP's; 12. Rating: Advanced+
    MSE detection; 56%, number of FP's; 5. Rating: Advanced+
    Norton detection; 36%, number of FP's; 13. Rating: Advanced

    Without a correct interpretation of these scores, one can easily come up with ridiculous claims like;
    ' MSE is 300% better than Avira' or ' Avira is the best and MSE is mediocre at best'.
    Neither is true of course.
    Read the reports and then make up your own mind about what is 'the best' and especially, what is the best for you.
    Cheers.