X60, First Samsung with Intel Core coming up! (specs, pics)

Ladies and gentleman,
the X60-series is coming up. Here are the specs:

Intel Core T2300 (1,66 GHz)
15,4"-widescreen (1280x800)
2 x 512 MB RAM
integrated graphics OR ATI X1600
80 GB 5400 rpm harddrive
802.11a/b/c
Gigabit-Ethernet
Cardreader (6 formats)
S/PDIF-output
(DVI over optional docking station)
Remote control (fits into the pc-card slot)
2,5 kilograms (5,6 lbs)
361 x 265 x 23,9 mm

still no news about the small packages, sorry!

 

This is looking fairly familiar by this point, but I'm very impressed with all the 15.4", X1600, 5.x pound notebooks.

Any word on pricing? Also, what happened to that 19" laptop?

 

LeonX THANK YOU!!!!!

I've been waiting for a new Samsung Model for quite some time now... !!!

Ok firstly, specwise this thing is OKAY.
Intel Core T2300 (1,66 GHz)
15,4"-widescreen (1280x800)
2 x 512 MB RAM
integrated graphics OR ATI X1600
80 GB 5400 rpm harddrive
802.11a/b/c
Gigabit-Ethernet
Cardreader (6 formats)
S/PDIF-output
(DVI over optional docking station)
Remote control (fits into the pc-card slot)
2,5 kilograms (5,6 lbs)
361 x 265 x 23,9 mm

I personly would prefer a 1.86 ghz, i would prefer a WSXGA+ res, not a WXGA res.
I like the X1600 - but we don't know whether its a 128mb, or 256 or 512.
The Hard drive is perfect (I would like to know brand tho)
I like the 6 in 1 reader.
I wish it had DVI out, just like most people (but i have no use for it LOL)
I like the REMOTE idea.
The weight is PERFECT, and the dimensions are spectacular!!

This laptop is definately thin and light and powerfull.
My guess on the price in terms of USD is like 2800 (but i think that's conservative hehe)

However, I know Samsung will release 2 more versions of it, one being with higher cpu and screen res, and another one that's fully loaded. Each respectively costing alot more but that's Samsung for yah

I would buy one of these things one they release it IF it meets my requirements and if it comes to the UK, and if Merom is NOT just around the corner LOL. (also batterylife if a ???)

Anyways THANKS so much for the info, plz keep us update

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

Sorry for the missing facts:
BOTH versions will have a 1,66 Ghz Core DUO T2300.
The first version costs 1799 euros in Germany (VAT included) and will be available by the end of January.
The price for the second version is still unknown, it will be available in February. By the way - the graphics adapater has 256 mb RAM.
Battery time is 6 hours with GMA 950 (integrated graphics), 4 hours with ATI X1600 (dedicated graphics), although the battery of a prototype lasted 6 hours and 24 minutes. (Im am not sure if the two version include exactly the same battery)

 

im curious about the screen resolution, on both models will they have the pathetic WXGA res? or will the one with the X1600 have WSXGA+ res.?

Also i saw another site saying they saw the specs of the X60 at CES and they said it has a X1400 in it..

now im confused


Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

Well I dont know anything about the resolution yet. The X1600 is definetely what Samsung said. Im not that sure if the high-spec-model might have a better processor, though. I does not make any sense to me that they only go with 1,66 Ghz, I would bet they have also an eye on the T2400 oder the T2500.

 

yeah, we'll just wait another month or so and we'll see everything

:base:

hehe

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

Its quite simple for me, I am waiting to get a new laptop, but am ,as always, not sure.Simply it will be a Samsung x60 or an Asus v6J - anyone got any thoughts?

thanks

 

acutaly u can count out the X60 if this baby does not come with a WSXGA+ screen, also you can count out the A6j, its ugly and thick but cool and efficient, but also has a low res screen.

The best Yonah laptop is the Acer 8200, it has the most bang for the buck and comes with everything!! Fully Loaded! for a low price of 2400$ USD or get the lower version and still get ALOT for about 2000 USD.

Both the X60 (Samsung has naturally higher prices) and A6j can't beat the Acer 8200 for price and features.

And im not being biased, im more of a ASUS/ Samsung Fan but... i can't say no to a Acer 8200

There are reviews of both Acer 8200 and A6j already.

Hope this helps,

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

thanks for the reply - but i said the VJ6 - not the A6J....

 

ooppse im blind,

the V6j is horrible.. (not really)

I do NOT recommend buying this notebook at all.

The Specs are pathetic and price is too high.

Plus its not widescreen, no IPS... NOT WORTH IT.


If you want a 15" Laptop you can try for the ASUS Lambo if the specs are good, or go back to 2005 models the X20 1860 SE from www.student-book.de also the V6va which is much better than the V6j.

Or if you want a 15.4" Widescreen, and if you want the latest stuff for the cheapest possible... get the Acer 8200, other than that there's nothing that compares to it right now.

But if you want something from 2005, there's alot of stuff.. but the best is the ASUS Z70va.. but if you want something special get a Samsung X50 WVM 2130... but its bloody expensive..

I know I din't give much detail im tired... but trust me.. i've been lookn at notebooks for 6+ months

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

This laptop will be completely flawed if it doesnt come out with a higher res screen like the Acer 8200..

The manufactureres dont seem to understand how important high resolution is..

 

thanks for your reply

the specs are pathetic?? - arnt they very simular to the x60s?...... Your completely right about the IPS screen which is a real shame, because ive been told that the ASUS IPS screens are fantastic. I hope the X60' is good!
Its interestimg you mentioning the widescreen, as i have never used one and so wasnt too bothered, but you seem to think that it is a big issue - does it rearlly make things better? - also I have found out that the x60 should have a high res option....link below..

http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/mobilecomputing/dualcore/np_x60tv01suk.asp

 

WOW great find theamoebason, i knew Samsung would not have agraet laptop like that and not have a high resolution screen !

Ok, Regarding the ASUS v6j, people would rather buy the V6va, but you can quickly find some info about the V6j and you'll see it is not as good as the V6va.

Widescreen vs Non-Widescreen, there are several threads about this, when I first looked at laptops I thought that a 4:3 aspect would be good, but now that i realize the benefits of having a high res + widescreen laptop would be more beneficial for multitasking (which i do constantly).

I suggest going to a Local computer store and finding a Widescreen and a non widescreen laptop and compare.

Also, unfortunately the X60 will most likely be Expensive!! Especially the one with High Res, if you can find a price or a retailer who is selling the high res one, plz give me the link so i can check it out.

But if you want a laptop with everything, get the Acer 8200, you will get a Fully Loaded Laptop for 2500 USD, but for Samsung i doubt they will fully load it and they will charge u more.. LOL that's samsung for ya :decision:

hehe but who knows, i could be wrong.

FYI: the X60 is 0.9"~ 1.35" in thickness... which is respectable...not exceptional.

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

mystic - ive just had a look at the Acer 8200 you mention....nice spec but it does look a bit big & heavy! - seems to be a desktop replacement rearlly....and I need something slightly easier to carry around. The asus V6va did seem a good size but its such a shame about the new v6j not getting the same screen. I wont go for the v6va because being a 3d visualiser i rearlly need every jot of power i can get! (even though I can still network render at home with my dual Xeon.... I'll certainly check out a widescrren, thats a good idea thanks.
Do you know what the samsung screens are like? - and also, when do you think that I will actually be able to get hold of an X60 (with the hi-res screen) in the UK?months away?

thanks

 

- any by the way...there are 14 hi res pics here.....

http://presse.samsung.de/press_checkimage.asp?bild=2005012012_x60_serie1.jpg

http://presse.samsung.de/press_checkimage.asp?bild=2005012012_x60_serie2.jpg

etc - all the way up to 14..

 

Thanks for the Pics, very nice

themoebason, you really need to pick a screen size first, before you can figure out everything else.

If you want a 15.4"
The Best 2006-Current (Jan) is the Acer 8200 (Yonah +X1600)
The Best 2005 is the ASUS Z70va (Sonoma + X700)
A Nice option is Samsung X60 (Yonah + X1400/X1600)
The Worlds Thin & Light is the Samsung X50 from European countries excluding UK (Sonoma + X700) but the UK gets X600
Your other option is to wait 2 months and your choices will widen by alot.

If you want a 15"
A Good Choice ASUS V6va (Sonoma + X700)
Thin and light Samsung X20 1860 SE (Sonoma + X700) can be bought from www.student-book.de
The V6j is not a good choice, I beleive it comes with a X1400 making its Video capabilities lower than of the X700, but this has a Yonah.


Benchmarks 3dMarks05
X1600 = 4000+
X700 = 2400
X1400 = 2000
X600 = 1700

You really want to stay with the X1600 but the X700 will do fine too. (If you buy the ASUS Z70va or Samsung X50 you will not be the only Video Graphic Editor who is using these laptops to do so.)

In your case for being a graphic designer, you would definately benefit from a Widescreen laptop with a Resolution of WSXGA+ (1680x1050), compared to a Non widescreen laptop with a resolution of SXGA+ (1400x1050).

THis way you can put 2 windows side by side and do ur programing and graphic design at the same time, plus if your laptop comes with a DVI port, you can hook it up to a Monitor and use it high Res screen for even more Real estate.

For Comparison of Dimensions look at this.

Samsung X20
13.2" x 11" x 1.1"/1.3"
5.3 lbs (2.4 kg)
15" SXGA+ (1400x1050) Matte

Asus V6V
13" x 10.7" x 1.18"
5.7 lbs
15" SXGA (1400x1050) Glossy

Acer 2310
14.3" x 11" x 1.3"/1.5"
6.08 lbs (2.76 kg)
15" XGA (1024x768) Glossy



ASUS Z70va
13.9" x 10.7" x 0.87"/1.4"
6.0 lbs
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) Matte

Samsung X50
14.1" X 10.5" X 1.02"/1.23"
5.3 lbs (2.41 kg)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) Matte

ASUS Z71v
14" x 10.8" 1.4"
6.5 lbs
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) Matte

ASUS W1 Carbon Edition
14.3 x 10.4 x 1.25
7lbs (3.2 kg)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) Glossy

 

thanks for all the info!.

Your right that i need to sort out my screen requirments. Basically I think that im happy to go with widescreen as in fact nearlly all my renderings are in 16:9 anyway!:

http://www.themillionproject.com/amulti/portnew.htm


- but would like high res and probably glossy as I do seem to like it. I will DEFINITLY go for a dual core only as my software 3d max (and especially VRAY renderer) gets much quicker with more than 1 thread. I realise that at the moment there ane no dual core PC's actaully available apart from 'pre-order' - well in the UK at least - and of the new ones we know about I am most happy with the spec of te X60 IF it gets a high res screen. I suppose then I will have to wait a bit longer......do you think it will be long untill the high res version of the x60 is available? - otherwise I will check out the new models to come.

The 3D option is also important as 3d MAX uses openGL to display the viewports. But i rearlly do not want a big brick to carry around as this is not going to be a desktop replacement. I need to use it on the train and when not at home in the office.

Thanks again for all the info.

 

I personaly don't live in the UK, i cannot comment about the X60 or X50, I only know what others tell me or what ever reviews I can find.

We Have a New Member to NBR, Brigand21 - who works for Samsung UK, you can turn some of ur detailed Q's about the X60 to him, (i've done so already lol).

He has a thread below this one

So at this moment there are two viable options for you.
Acer 8204 - 15.4" WSXGA+ screen, 2.0 yonah, 2 GB @ 667mhz Ram, 120Gb @5400RPM, X1600 256mb (i think) + All Bells and Whistles. >>Price: 2500 USD = ~1700 UK (GBP)

Samsung X60 - 15.4" W?XGA? screen, ??.? Yonah, ? GB @ ???mhz, ???GB @5400RPM, X1400 or X1600 ???mb + All Bells and Whistles. >>Price my Guess is 3000USD (Samsung is Expensive)

LOL Alot of Question Marks.. but yah, none of us know for sure, but we will find out in about 2 weeks or so.

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

Go to This site to see the First X60 in Korea
http://www.sec.co.kr/index.jsp

Go to this site for the X60 in Germany
http://www.studentbook.de/x60-t2300.html

Acer 8200
14.2" x 10.6" x 1.1"/1.5"
6.6lbs (3kg)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) Glossy

Samsung X60
14.2" x 10.4" x 0.94"/1.29"
5.4lbs/5.6lbs (2.48kg)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) Glossy

1650 Euros
2000+ USD
1150+ GBP (UK)
2300+ CAD (Canadian)
17000 Yen

Mind you this is the first X60, i expect 2 more models at the least.
One model will have the X1400 with a 1.86ghz, and another with WSXGA+, X1600 256mb, 1.86ghz.

My guess for the X1400 version it would be around 2000 Euros and then for the X1600 it would be 2500 Euros, and yes the RAM WILL BE 533mhz NOT 667

Samsung will prolly be cheap like that :O boo!

Expect the other models to show face within 1 month I hope.

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

X60 available in Australia from HarrisTechnology for AU$2699 (US $2,031.02) (1,677.29 Eu)

Stupid page script doesn't allow linking directly to product, can be found here: http://www.ht.com.au/

 

I found that http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml is the only distributor of Samsung in the USA. I talked to them the other day and they are expecting the X60 in over the next couple of weeks. Seems very nice and informative. Any experience with them?

Also, are they the only option if you really want to purchase a Samsung laptop in the USA?

I really like the design and specs - especially the light weight compared to LCD size - none of the other vendors seem to offer decent resolutions (15" XGA+ or 15.4" WXGA+) with a weight under 6 lbls. I need something that meets these requirements and will be reliable.

 

jjfcpa, um... i personaly don't like the X60 as much as i like the X50... but anyways... wait another month or so till they release the higher verrsions of the x60.

THe currently released X60 comes with a low res screen...which very few want.. but if u like low res.. there are better alternatives.. the Acer 5000 series should be the one to look at.. Acer has 2 Napa notebooks, the 8200 and the 5000 (i think).

Both of them are cheap.. and the 5000 is really cheap, you get a 1.86ghz and X1400 for about 1500 Canadian !! WXGA screen res. 15.4" screen.

As for weight concerns... your arm or back will not notice a difference between 5.6 -> 6.6
The just noticable difference(JND) for laptops weight is 2lbs.
Meaning a laptop that weighs 5lbs should roughly feel the same as about 6.6lbs, but if the laptops weight 7lbs you'll notice a difference.

so i do suggest you wait, plus the Samsung x60 will be double the cost of some laptops out there.

Also Dynasim charges a hella of alot of money for their laptops.

US and Canadians only have 2 ways to get Samsung laptops, one is through retailers like Dynaism and the other is to order them from the UK, no other European countries because warranty will be an issue...

The UK roughly gets things about 1 month before North America gets stuff.

So be patient and wait

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

MysticGolem

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean when you say "low res" screen? The X60 on the Dynamism screen is WSXGA+. The only downside is the lower processor. The screen is a huge issue for me and if it wasn't WSXGA+, I wouldn't consider it.

With regards to weight, I have to respectfully disagree. I had a 15" T42 and it supposedly weight less than a pound more than the 14" T42 that I also had at the time. I swapped them regularly and every morning when I went down to grab my backpack and head for the office, I could always tell which one was in the backpack. The extra pound made it obvious to me.

I'm just hoping that the svelte size of the X60 will be complimented by a solid build, cool running, and reliability.

 

I'm confused now, the X60 with Highres and X1600 should NOT be out yet, it is not located on any UK resellers or Germany... I have no clue where Dynasim is getting their info from??

http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail.asp?id=6205&c=1913111&guid=&s=&sm=

This shows that the UK only has a WXGA screen, without ATI graphic, and yah.....

Remember, Samsung is the MOST expensive brand out there.

The First X60 released is the one with low res scren, integrated graphics. = 950 GBP (UK)

THe 2nd X60 will be WXGA with X1400 = 1200-1400 GBP

The 3rd X60 will be WSXGA+ with X1600 = 1500-1700 GBP

All 3 models are expected to ONLY have a 1.66ghz Yonah
Also expect the RAM to only be 533mhz, not 667mhz.

Sorry to bring up the upsetting news... BUT you should call up Dynasim and MAKE SURE... cos if you order the X60 blindly and u get what i told u about.. then u will be definately upset.

So double and triple and quadruple CHECK! with dynasim... i have already found a few mistakes on their site regarding other laptops, so this info may definately be a BIG mistake.

IF some how Dynasim is special and is getting this notebook, I do suggest buying the lower end one, you will save 200 USD, and with that money you can buy a new processor in the future when prices drop, and upgrade to a 2.0 yonah.

hope this helps,


Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

MysticGolem

Thanks for your reply and concern. I'm going to be emailing Jason at Dynamism and explain to him in no uncertain terms that I will NOT accept anything with a WXGA screen. I'll send you a copy of his reply when I get it or post his reply here.

Again, I really appreciate the info and I'll be double checking what I was quoted.

 

hehem no problem

I am hopeing that Dynasim is actually offering this laptop with that price for those specs... cos i may be tempted to get one.. and yes it is overpriced... but hey, its much thinner and lighter than the BEST (Acer 8204).

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

That's why I'm interested. Thin, light, hopefully cool running. I can sacrifice some specs for these 3.

 

yah same, i just wish they had put a 1.86ghz in there.. it only like a 50$ difference or something...but they said at CES that they really wanna keep this laptop cool, and silent...

If this laptop is way outta budget... then like me and others...we will just wait for more Dual core laptops being released in March and even wait for Merom in Oct-Jan 2007.

ASUS is releasing a W3J!! 14" WXGA + X1600... its prolly the 2nd best Dual Core Laptop i've seen...the first being Acer 8204 because of features and price.

Lets wait and see.


Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

I sent Jason at Dynamism an email and made it clear that I must have WXGA+. I should get his reply today and I'll post here.

I really wish somebody would make a 14" widescreen with a higher resolution than 1280 X 768. I just can't work in that resolution.

I've heard Dell will be introducing a D620 in March that will be 14" widescreen. It will be interesting to see if they do anything with the resolution.

I can live with the 1.66 on the X60 because with 2 gig of memory, it should still be pretty quick. As long as they don't dumb it down with a 4200 hard drive.

I just want a "cool" running laptop and they really seem to be in short supply. That's one thing I can say about my T43p, it's very "cool". I don't think I could even say it gets warm, and I run it 12 hours a day at least.

 

its a 1.66ghz with 667 FSB, 1gb Ram of 533mhz (I doubt Samsung will give you 667mhz ram) Hard drive will be 5400 rpm but i dunno the brand of HD (fujitsu?? for even more profits..)

From what i heard about the X50, their screens are AMAZING..but only AMAZING when at full brightness... any notches down and its too dull..

So we'll see about that.

Regarding 14"... YAH i was thinking the same thing as you, i want higher res.. possibly 1440x 900 would be nice on a 14" but w/e the W3J is prolly the best 14" for DUal Core.

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

MysticGolem

I did get a reply from Jason at Dynamism today and he said he was going to verify the specs and get back to me. I provided him with some of the information that you passed on to me and I think he was concerned that his specs may be wrong.

He didn't let on, but simply said he would verify and get back to me.

I really appreciate you pointing this out to me. I could just see this thing showing up with the wrong resolution and boy would I be pissed.

I'm hoping it will be WXGA+ and in a couple of short weeks I can be using one of those sweet laptops. I'll let you know when I hear from him.

...14"... I'm not sure if I've ever seen a 14" widescreen with 1440 X 900 resolution, but that would be really nice. I'm not sure if Dell could pull that one off. Samsung could, but not Dell.

 

FYI.. I just found this and hadn't seen it posted..

http://www.samsungpc.com/products/x60/x60_specification.htm
It says that there will be a SWXGA+ res screen too, with 1680x1050 max res!

I also managed to find a detailed preview of the X60 on the official Samsung Korean site.. It looks like a fantastic read, but its all in korean =/

page 1:
http://www.zaigen.co.kr/Services/review/computer/view.aspx?idx=67

page 2:
http://www.zaigen.co.kr/Services/review/computer/view.aspx?idx=66&SMSESSION=NO

page 3:
http://www.zaigen.co.kr/Services/review/computer/view.aspx?idx=65

I wish I knew Korean!

 

How much do x60 cost in Asia? I couldn't find the price.

 

Anyone know if the x1600 version will be released in Australia

 

From what I have gathered there are currently 2 versions of this laptop on their way to australia..

Both versions have the T2300 1.6Ghz 1gb with the same 15.4" screens..with minor differences being on the low version a Intel GMA 950 DVMT 128mb and 80gb hdd (5400rpm), and the high version a ATI X1400 128mb and 100gb hdd (5400rpm).

I really wonder why they dont build with a X1600.. perhaps they will release another version at a later date.

They are extrodinarily expensive though..
The low version is RRP 2,849 AUD (sell price $2600 AUD from Cworld) and the high version is RRP #3,099 AUD (sell price 2850 AUD from Cworld)

Cworld @ www.cworld.com.au


I would love to see a X1600 version released here!!

 

The specification sheet for the X60 at http://www.samsungpc.com/products/x60/x60_specification.htm suggests that there may be other versions of the X60. So far, in UK, there is a low end model with Intel integrated graphics and a medium model with the ATI X1400, both with WXGA display and T2300 CPU. I suspect that a high end model with the X1600, WSXGA+ display and a faster CPU will arrive in the next few months. Maybe the arrival of this model will be influenced by the speed at which the remaining stocks of the X50 can be disposed of. Personally, I would like the faster CPU but I don't want the high resolution display.

John

 

I take it Samsung is an anti-american company or something? I can't find any store here that sells Samsung laptops period.

 

It seems that when Dell decided to sell a rebadged Samsung notebook then Samsung had to agree to not compete in the North American market. But go further up this thread and you will see reference to a US company that sells Samsung notebooks.

John

 

No, it is.

 

OK. I've now invested my money in an X60 with the ATI X1400 GPU and I can now answer my of my questions:

1. Battery Life: 3.5 hours looks feasible under light load. I'm currently using a wireless connection with the display on 3/8 brightness and MobileMeter shows the power consumption in the 14W to 16W range.

2. Weight: My digital kitchen scales put the weight at 2.54kg, which is only slightly more than the advertised weight of 2.48kg (the small print in the specification notes that this is without any options, so items like the Bluetooth will add to the weight). However, the bad news is that the PSU is a 90W brick which weighs nearly 0.5kg - over 50% heavier than the 65W PSU for my Asus W3A.

Look forward to a full review within a few days.

John

 

If you really want to write a full review you can earn money.

For further information contact abaxter, the owner of notebookreview.com.

Just start here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/announcement.php?f=1011&a=5

 

kool thanks!! for the nice info!

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

I already made contact yesterday, although sharing knowledge is of higher priority than making money.

John

 

which screen resolution version did you get?

I look forward to the review!

-dc

 

I posted this post because when you write a review with abaxter's scheme we would have a full review about everything we want to know about your notebook.

 

WXGA = 1280 x 800. I don't think the model with the WSXGA+ is available yet but event if it was, my eyes are too old to happily coexist with very small pixels. What might be of interest to me is WXGA+ (1440 x 900) but notebooks with this resolution are rare.

John

 

any word on price?

 

Just picked one up today, Excellent notebook, thumbs up from me. Will post a review maybe next week, still formatting my partitions atm.

 

I own a Samsung X60
The parts arn't as tough as they make them out to be, not only that the X60's part took 4 days to be delivered and another day to be installed. Was told 2-3 days. Don't rely on Samsung (actually AWA does the servicing) for great turn around times.
My friend get's his dell fixed in usally less than a day.
Doesn't that make us Saumsung owners feel special!