Samsung X22 (14.1" Widescreen)

I had been wondering what would replace the X11.

Google is starting to pick up evidence of the X22. It appears to have been shown at Korean fair SEK 2007. This site has a description:

This French site has the same specs and better photos.

T his UK site says version NP-X22A001/SUK will be priced at £999 incl. VAT but gives no detailed specification.

The photos suggest that the X22 is more than a refresh of the X21. Do I see a brushed metal palm rest? I wonder if the 2.2kg includes a bigger battery than the 4 cell unit of the X21. If so, the X22 might manage time away from a power socket. It's a shame that the Q70 doesn't manage to match the X22's thickness.

John

 

Finally some AMD/ATI GPUs!!

 

The X22 is now on the Samsung global download site.

Maybe someone thought about the design. For example, the indicator lights are in front of the touch pad, where they will be more visible, rather than hidden under the left palm. The media card reader on on the left side under a 34mm Express Card slot. However, we have the audio sockets at the front on the right side where the cables may get in the way of a mouse.

The tour and the specs from the manual are attached. There is a 1440 x 900 display option. The dimensions in these specs are not the same as those given in the first post in this thread. I suspect the thicker dimension includes the feet (so it is similar thickness to the Q70) and the different front to back dimensions are for the different batteries.

John

 

Looks very nice. I wonder if it is still constructed with magnesium alloy.

 

notebook.de has just slapped on the spec and price of the Q70 and X22...
Can anyone answer me which material they are made from?

 

As far as I could see when doing my review, the Q70 is built out of plastic.

The specs for the X22 show a thickness of 31.0 ~ 41.9mm which is much thicker than the X11 (25.9 ~ 33.7mm). I would therefore suspect that the X22 is also plastic. In fact, the X22 is thicker than the R20 (27.7 ~ 38.7 mm) is all Samsung's measurements are on the same basis.

So I'm not sure what market segment the X22 is aimed at. It would not appear to be a thin, light and durable successor to the X11.

John

 

Had they lost the magnesium alloy concept? Disappointed.

 

That is what I suspect from the available information. The dimensions suggest that the X22 is a bigger version of the Q70 (which is a bigger version of the Q45) but what we would like is a smaller version of the X65.

Perhaps my interpretation of the information is wrong but after my encounter with the Q70 I am wondering whether Samsung is moving away from the thin and light market which it helped to develop.

John

 

Samsung X22 in Germany:
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/a266359.html

Samsung X22 Aura T7300 Choi (NP-X22A002)
Core 2 Duo T7300 2x 2.00GHz • 2048MB (2x 1024MB) • 200GB • DVD+/-RW DL • NVidia GeForce Go 8400M GS max.128MB shared memory • USB 2.0/FireWire/Modem/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11abgn/Bluetooth • HDMI (1080p) • 6in1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/HighSpeed MMC/MS/MS Pro/xD) • Web-/Videokamera (1.3 Megapixel) • 14.1" WXGA TFT (1280x800) • Windows Vista Home Premium • Li-Ionen-Akku • 2.18kg • 24 Monate Herstellergarantie

 

Now I see where the 2.18kg for the same site's Q70 specs has come from.

John

 

Micro Anvika claim they have the X22 in stock @ £899.

They still haven't learnt that many people want decent sized batteries.

John

 

Hey,
what are you thinking,how long will be the battery life of the x 22?

 

If my school French is correct, this site says 3 hours for the 4 cell and 6 hours for the 8 cell battery. If that is true then Samsung + ATI have pulled a white rabbit out of the hat and, if they had a WXGA+ version, I would be buying it without delay. 2 hours and 4 hours respectively may be better estimates at this stage. Unfortunately, based on past pricing, you will need to take out a mortgage for the 8 cell battery.

John

 

So micro anvika sell the x22 with the 4 cell battery.
Who sells the 8 cell one or where i can find out the serial number for the 8 cell battery to search by myself??

 

You might find the part number of the battery in the X22 User Guide.

I would guess that it could be the same as the 8 cell battery for the X1, X11 and R20 which retails for about £140 in UK (but somewhere in the R20 thread there are some links to cheaper compatible batteries).

Once you factor in the cost of a bigger battery the Samsung X22 becomes less attractive. Samsung would do well to realise that a version with 8 cell as standard (+ sensible pricing) would sell well.

John

 

Hi,

has anybody an explanation for me why the "P55-Pro T7300 Bruce" with better specs is 200 Euro cheaper than the "X22-Aura T7300 Choi"?

Links to Studentbook.de: http://www.studentbook.de/x22-t7300-choi.html and http://www.studentbook.de/p55-t7300-bruce.html

Both have T7300, 2 GB, WLan AGN, Bluetooth. NVidia Graphics is better in P55 which also has fingerprint reader, TPM, higher screen resolution and faster hard disc. Is the casing expected to be better on the X22 or is a non-glare screen more expensive?

Stefan

 

Same in the UK: The P55 has very good specs for the price. Maybe Samsung have a pile of old screens (the P55 is not widescreen) which they are trying to shift. Maybe I am wrong, but the P55 looks as if it uses he metal alloy construction of its predecessor. It is significantly heavier than the X22.

John

 

I saw one of these in the flesh yesterday. I went to micro anvika to check out the vaio CR series and I saw the X22 as well. it seemed really nice, lightweight, better specs than the sony. didn't havethe dedicated buttons the sony did(av,volume etc...) but has better connectivity and overall it looked the part. my only real problem is the screen res. however I don't want a 15.4" as I have to lug it too work and all the laptops at micro anvika that were 14.1 hadthe same res (and a lot of 15.4 too)

overall I'm pretty impressed and may buy one this weekend. has anyone actually used one in anger and can report on the battery life? any other comments? thoughts on samsung laptops in general?

 

First time post today.
Found this forum when I was researching for the Q45 which was one candidate for the new notebook for my wife ... but then we ended up buying the X22 last Friday at Micro Anvika.

Now I am in process of setting it up ... so far no complaints or issues, the original set-up was comparable easy. Can't tell much about the battery life yet, as I haven't tested it specifically and during the day my wife works with it. Also no major issues with Vista (yet), except maybe that they took away the possibility to have multiple e-mail identities in the same account, which made me install Thunderbird right away.

Anyway, I am not that computer literate like most of you guys seem but as I definitely got some benefits from reading all your posts and comments about the Q45, and also the X22 and any other comments I thought it is only fair at least to say THANKS ...

 

Thanks for this info.

It would help everyone if you can do a first take on the battery life by pulling out the power cable, putting the display on half brightness, waiting a few minutes (while doing some easy task like browsing this forum) and then checking (and posting here) the % battery charge remaining and estimated battery time remaining (point at the battery icon in the system tray at the right end of the task bar).

John

 

yes that would be really helpful. some kind of 3d test too possibly i think you can download 3dmark for free. does anyone know how the ati 2400 should perform? I know its DX10 but can't seem to find out roughly how good it should be...

 

Should be comparable to the 8400M GS of the Dell M1310 or even at the level of the GT of the Sony FZ

 

I have found some interesting information on the Samsung X22 graphics card, the HD2400. Its translated from Chinese but the tables still make sense.
It seems that the 8400GS is 10 - 20% stronger in the games tested, even though the HD2400 performed higher in 3dmark. It is also interesting to see the CPU usage for HD content is lower using the HD2400.

Link:
http://translate.google.com/transla...&prev=/search?q=hd2400+mobility+vs&hl=en&sa=G

 

Well, I charged the battery to 100%, unplugged, started browsing a bit and then checked the level - 2:11 minutes remaining at 98%. Not impressive, I guess. Not sure about the power settings anyway. For some reasons, on battery, it just goes to sleep without notification although the battery settings indicate that there should be a low battery indication. Any ideas why this is?

In regards to the 3D capabilities - unless there are better (in this case: less resourcesful) tests available I will give this one a pass. I am not a gamer and to download half a gig of data goes a bit beyond my interest - sorry. Also it requires as minimum a processor of 2.5 Ghz or higher?

Apart from this, it runs smoothly so far ...

 

2hrs 11mins: Not bad for a first attempt. It's only a 4 cell battery. That time is at least as good as the R20 with the less powerful ATI 1250M integrated graphics.

As for the going to sleep, right click on the battery icon and select Power Options. Then, on the list on the left, click on Change when the computer sleeps.

On other Samsung notebooks I have found that the ready-made Samsung power profile is as good as Power Saver profile. For more about power issues, look at this thread (for a Q45).

John

 

The X22 is now listed by DigiUK. That version has the 2GHz T7250 GPU with the graphics not stated but should be the ATI 2400 listed in the X22 specs. This version (NP-X22T000/SUK) has XP Pro and only 1GB RAM.

John

PS: The details at the above link have been updated to confirm it is the ATI HD2400 GPU (I see the German X22 has the 8400M) but also ....... 4 cell and 8 cell batteries. That addresses one of the big complaints about shorter battery life with the 4 cell battery while still allowing the lighter machine when you don't need more than 2 hours on the battery. If only it had the WXGA+ display.

 

So this battery bellow is the 8 cell battery you can use for the x22?
http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail.asp?id=6023

or also cheaper on

http://www.studentbook.de/akkus.html

If so I guess its ok to buy the x22 from,lets say microanvika for 899 (incl. the 4 cell battery) and additional to this the 8 cell one from studenbook for 169 EUR (exl. 10 eur shipping cost),thats about 121 pound.
All in all thats 1020 pound for this quite impressive notebook incl. 2 batteries..........hm,why not?or maybe somethin else for the same price????

by the way: i just realized that microanvike sell the x22 with a 6cell battery

 

I'm 99% sure that is the right battery. If you Google for the part number you should find somewhere selling a 3rd party battery for half the price. Personally, I would get the X22 (NP-X22T000/SUK) with the 2 batteries, upgrade the RAM to 3GB and buy an OEM Vista at my leisure. It's a shame it doesn't have the WXGA+ display which is listed in the general specs.

John

 

hmmm...yeah i found one for 52 pound + 4 pound delivery
http://www.global-stores.co.uk/view.php/1+laptop-battery+SAMSUNG+UNSMK010
so my "customized" x22 would cost then 955 pound...thats ok
ah john,by the way,studentbook is selling their x22 also with both batteries!
i speak german so i can guarantee you thats right...
if look at this comparison-pdf http://www.studentbook.de/pdf/Modellvergleich.pdf you see in the line of the x22 that they are writin " gratis hochleistungsakku",which means that the 8 cell battery is also included to the 6 or 4 cell one( i guess its rather the 6 cell one than the 4 cell because microanvika sell it with the 6 cell one),but studentbook say that they just have this x22 in mid-september available...
so,you think that would be ok to buy one of these replacement batteries?

by the way:
studenbook's x22 has the foolowing mfr. code: NP-X22A002/SEG
there is a slightly difference from the version on micro anvika, NP-X22A001/SUK.
the german one has a bigger,but also slower hdd and not ati but nvidia graphics.

 

I'm fairly sure that Micro Anvika's 6 cell battery is a typo. The description at the top says 4 cell and Samsung's specs say 4 cell and 8 cell.

John

 

Hi! Does anyone here know if there is any full review for the Samsung X22 around?

Cheers!

 

Not that I can find. I'll willingly do a review if someone sends me an X22. There are some photos here. Maybe it has the same brushed-aluminium palm rest ike the Q70.

John

 

BTW Comet or Currys has an X22 with VistaHP, a glossy screen and 2GB RAM at around the same cost as the XP Pro version with 1GB RAM (and a matt screen).

 

I can't see an X22 on the Comet or Currys sites. However, DigiUK has two models:

NP-X22T000/SUK with XP Pro, T7250, 1GB, 160GB and 4 cell + 8 cell batteries.

NP-X22A001/SUK with Vista HP, T7300, 2GB, 160GB and 4 cell battery.

Personally, I think the XP version is better value since a 1GB RAM upgrade costs <£30 and the 8 cell battery will give 4 hours use away from the power plug. The two battery arrangement is good (they also do it on the Q40). Use the smaller battery when travelling between power sockets keep the big battery for use on the road without wearing it out through everyday use.

John

 

I wonder y companies come in like a bang and fade off some bits. Same goes to LG (not in the US of coz).

 

I bought one of these a couple of days ago from digi uk, very impressed with it a great looking well built laptop.

Laptops direct have the version with vista now for £849

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Samsung_X22_Laptop_NP-X22A001-SUK/version-1.asp

 

Hi Scobbie, i would be very interested in a short report on build quality, screen brightness, battery duration, fan/noise, etc of your X22.

By the way, in Germany there is the first mentioning of a X22 model with interesting specs! http://notebook.samsung.de/article.asp?artid=F647BD71-9C5A-468C-83B5-7271D2B83AA7

Even the recommended price is very reasonable and can be expected to be lower in real.

 

build quality - excellent, keyboard is one of the best i've seen in a laptop, palm rests are brushed aluminium and the outside case is sturdy and covered in a sort of galvanized rubber coating so should stay scratch free.

Screen brightness- it's a gloss screen on mine and the brightness is good and easily adjustable using the samsung hotkeys (fn and the up or down arrows) there are 7 brightness settings you can have and i tend to have it on the 2nd setting when running battery and setting 5 when on mains power. However the screen is still useable even on the lowest brightness setting

Battery life- The 4 cell battery I ran it on last night lasted over two hours using the samsung optimized running option I was just doing a bit of internet browsing so nothing too tasking but the wireless card was on all the time. when i shut it down the battery was still indicating 13% left.

Fan noise - very quiet laptop haven't heard a peep out of the fan yet.


I 've got the one with Vista btw and the vista experience scores are

Processor 4.9
Ram 4.8
Graphics for windows aero 3.7
Gaming Graphics 3.9
HD 4.9

 

Keyboard? How does it feel?

And it you dun mind, a few pictures would be awesome!

 

@Scobbie: Thanks for the extra info.

It looks to be a good machine which merits more publicity. I would get one if it had a 1440 x 900 display option.

Are you interested in doing a proper review?

John

 

Scobbie, thank you very much for your short but sufficient report. It seems that you are describing my dream machine. The one offered in Germany has no Vista but a 200 GB hard disk, T7500 and very probably the 8 cell battery in addition to the 4 cell standard.
I saw it advertized already for below 1,500 Euro ( http://geizhals.at/eu/a280350.html) which seems to me rather cheap with regard to the specs and your enthusiastic report.
However, it will get into European stores at the end of September and may be there is some more details/info/experience till then.

 

Best I can do at the moment is these three photos I took on my phone so not great quality.

The other laptop is my old Dell Inspiron 5150

 

Thanks Scobbie, i like my actual Samsung X10 because it is very thin and the front/palm rest is curved. The front edge of the X22 seems to be somewhat sharp, i wonder if it hurts after resting your wrists for a while?

 

What is the height of the edge of the palm rest about the table surface? (For comparison, the X60 plus is about 19mm and my Zepto is 20mm).

The brushed aluminium finish of the X22 is the same as on the Q70. I didn't use the Q70 for long but I didn't have any discomfort from the edge.

I'm interested in the scratch-resistant rubbery paint on the display back.

John

 

The Site in Germany also has nice product pictures of the X22. Overall the specs are fine, but I am a little disappointed that there is no option for the higher display resolution. Well, maybe later in another modell of the X22.

Does anybody know when Samsung changes over to LED backlight displays?

naoki

 

It's 20mm from table top to palm rest

 

John,
You have made clear your views on the screen resolution. Would you like to comment on your own preference between matte/glossy based on your Zepto and Samsung notebooks. Why do we only get offered glossy screens while continental Europe seem to get matte as standard? Asus V series another example.

 

On resolution I would like the extra real estate provided by 1440 x 900 although some items start to get a bit small (but not as small as on 1680 x 1050 @ 15.4").

The Samsung models sold in each country are specified by the local sales office from a standard list of factory options. Samsung Germany probably think that the majority of X22 purchasers will be business people who don't want problems with reflections from office lights. Samsung UK think its X22 customers will prefer the slightly better clarity and contrast provided by a glossy display. [UK Q45s come with the X3100 GPU which gives good battery life, the German Q45s have the 8400M G. Sensibly both options would be available in each country.]

It is possible that the UK version with XP Pro might have a matte display and the published specs are wrong. This wouldn't be the first time. That's the model I would go for because of the two batteries (but I don't think we have heard from anyone who has that model).

I wouldn't lose sleep over the matte / glossy issue. Provided the display has a good backlight then it will be usable under most conditions. Colours tend to be a bit richer with a glossy display but this is only something you notice when you put different displays side by side (see some pictures in my Zepto 6024W review). However, if you put several glossy displays site by side and you will see differences. Sometimes, with a glossy display you can get a reflection problem and have to adjust either yourself of the display.

John

 

I think if you are able to choose between a glossy or matte display the matte is still the best. Maybe if you are sitting in a room without any lights on, the glossy may give you little better "look and feel" because of a better saturation of the colors. For mobile working and even outdoor I do have say that my old gericom x5 Notebook (4-5 years old) with a matte display is much better than the glossy one of my R20 even the brightness of the display of my old notebook is behind the r20's (I measured it with my spyder colorimeter).
People who want to see the true colors, dont work with glossy display, I never saw a glossy Eizo in prepress production ;-)
For people who want to fresh up their make up in front of their notebook - take the glossy display. All the others who want to work mobile and relax their eyes - take the old matte one till the glossy ones are equal to the matte.
cheers!

 

@BerlinDude: That´s right. The matte display is the best solution in my opinion. The glossy ones are for the trendy people.

I still hope the 1400x900 display option will be available in germany.